Page 8 of 10
Re: Texas Big Freeze Aftermath
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2022 1:19 pm
by Maybenaut
Gregg wrote: ↑Mon Jun 06, 2022 7:02 pm
Hey Ted, you know where electricity costs ain't through the roof?
My house, bitch.
My house too! In March we sold our 2018 Nissan Leaf (for 5K more than we paid for it used in March of 2021). We ordered a Mustang Mach E (should be here in July). Our house generates way more power than we use, even with an EV.
- 54417D63-F180-4ABE-AE24-676B0180226D.jpeg (94.94 KiB) Viewed 1638 times
Re: Texas Big Freeze Aftermath
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2022 1:24 pm
by Phoenix520
My brother loves his Mach E. I was looking forward to riding in it at Thanksgiving, but I was too sick.
Re: Texas Big Freeze Aftermath
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2022 1:32 pm
by Maybenaut
Phoenix520 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 08, 2022 1:24 pm
My brother loves his Mach E. I was looking forward to riding in it at Thanksgiving, but I was too sick.
Our son has one. We traded him our Leaf for a week (I don’t think he actually drove it, though; he works from home and never goes anywhere). I loved, loved, loved the Mach E. The Leaf was OK, but in the winter I didn’t have the range to make it home from Northern Virginia if I had the heat turned on.
So, to stay on topic, suck it, Ted Cruz!
Re: Texas Big Freeze Aftermath
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2022 6:23 pm
by Gregg
Jim wrote: ↑Wed Jun 08, 2022 12:49 pm
So, what did Texas do to prepare for this summer?
They had guns to buy and were working on making it harder to vote.
Governor Roller Nazi for the win!
Re: Texas Big Freeze Aftermath
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2022 6:27 pm
by raison de arizona
Gregg wrote: ↑Wed Jun 08, 2022 6:23 pm
Jim wrote: ↑Wed Jun 08, 2022 12:49 pm
So, what did Texas do to prepare for this summer?
They had guns to buy and were working on making it harder to vote.
Governor Roller Nazi for the win!
I hear the Attorney General, who has somehow continued to elude the inside of a prison cell, is hard on the trail of twitter bots in order to protect Texans.
Re: Texas Big Freeze Aftermath
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2022 6:42 pm
by W. Kevin Vicklund
Jim wrote: ↑Wed Jun 08, 2022 12:49 pm
So, what did Texas do to prepare for this summer?
Schedule outages for maintenance during the spring so they wouldn't have to do maintenance or emergency repairs during the peak summer season.
it backfired on them.
Re: Texas Big Freeze Aftermath
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2022 9:20 pm
by tek
This is why you participate in a regional interconnection.
Oh, sorry.. Don't mess with Texas!
/ffs
Re: Texas Big Freeze Aftermath
Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2022 8:21 pm
by Volkonski
Sooner or later the grid will fail.
Re: Texas Big Freeze Aftermath
Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2022 11:56 pm
by keith
Volkonski wrote: ↑Mon Jun 20, 2022 8:21 pm
Sooner or later the grid will fail
AGAIN
FIFY
Re: Texas Big Freeze Aftermath
Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2022 6:35 am
by tek
Interesting..
Is the Texas 'Energy-Only' Market Adequate?
Texas is the only state in the U.S. with an “energy-only” electricity market, where generators are paid only for the electricity they deliver. This is based on the premise that higher electricity prices during heavier-demand periods incentivize power plant development within the Texas grid. This contrasts with the more common “capacity market,” where generators are required to own certain levels of reserve capacity.
Renewable power’s growing presence generally decreases wholesale electricity prices on sunny and windy days and causes thermal power plants to experience more hours offline. This has reduced the economic incentive to build and properly maintain thermal power plants.
https://www.dallasfed.org/research/economics/2021/0817
Re: Texas Big Freeze Aftermath
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2022 3:50 pm
by Kendra
So… Texas’ grid doesn’t work in the winter *or* the summer?
Three cheers for deregulation, y’all.
It’s going to be well over 100 degrees in much of Texas today. This is crazy.
Re: Texas Big Freeze Aftermath
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2022 3:59 pm
by tek
"no market solution available"
Nobody could have predicted this. /s
Re: Texas Big Freeze Aftermath
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2022 6:40 pm
by W. Kevin Vicklund
Meanwhile, my employer here in Michigan just happily sold some reserve capacity to utilities in east Texas that don't participate in ERCOT.
Re: Texas Big Freeze Aftermath
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2022 8:37 pm
by RTH10260
Question: would the other main US electric grid even have reserve capacities this time of the year to trickle some electrons into TX ?
Re: Texas Big Freeze Aftermath
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2022 9:05 pm
by northland10
RTH10260 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 11, 2022 8:37 pm
Question: would the other main US electric grid even have reserve capacities this time of the year to trickle some electrons into TX ?
Kevin mentioned above your comment that his employer in Michigan sold some reserve capacity to a non-ERCOT provider in Michigan, so I think that answer is probably yes. Actually, temps in my neck of the woods are down in the upper 70s to low 80s so we probably have extra capacity as well.
Re: Texas Big Freeze Aftermath
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2022 10:18 pm
by Gregg
tek wrote: ↑Mon Jul 11, 2022 3:59 pm
"no market solution available"
Nobody could have predicted this. /s
Sure they could, Enron traders designed it to happen this way. Exactly this way.
Re: Texas Big Freeze Aftermath
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2022 10:47 pm
by keith
W. Kevin Vicklund wrote: ↑Mon Jul 11, 2022 6:40 pm
Meanwhile, my employer here in Michigan just happily sold some reserve capacity to utilities in east Texas that don't participate in ERCOT.
If ERCOT isn't connected to the national grid, how do those electrons get to Texas?
Re: Texas Big Freeze Aftermath
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2022 10:55 pm
by Azastan
keith wrote: ↑Mon Jul 11, 2022 10:47 pm
W. Kevin Vicklund wrote: ↑Mon Jul 11, 2022 6:40 pm
Meanwhile, my employer here in Michigan just happily sold some reserve capacity to utilities in east Texas that don't participate in ERCOT.
If ERCOT isn't connected to the national grid, how do those electrons get to Texas?
There are utilities in east Texas which don't participate in ERCOT, and those utilities are connected to the national grid.
Re: Texas Big Freeze Aftermath
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 12:38 pm
by raison de arizona
Co-workers in Austin are experiencing rolling black-outs. Apparently this is not an entirely uncommon thing there, I am told.
Re: Texas Big Freeze Aftermath
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 2:13 pm
by Volkonski
Re: Texas Big Freeze Aftermath
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 2:15 pm
by raison de arizona
Houston Chronicle @HoustonChron wrote:
ERCOT didn't think this summer would be as hot as it actually is, interim CEO is 'concerned about the future'
I'm trying not to type in all caps. But, JFC! YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THE FUTURE? NOW? THIS HASN'T OCCURRED TO YOU UNTIL NOW?
Heads should be rolling. Years ago.
Re: Texas Big Freeze Aftermath
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 2:17 pm
by Azastan
raison de arizona wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 2:15 pm
Houston Chronicle @HoustonChron wrote:
ERCOT didn't think this summer would be as hot as it actually is, interim CEO is 'concerned about the future'
I'm trying not to type in all caps. But, JFC! YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THE FUTURE? NOW? THIS HASN'T OCCURRED TO YOU UNTIL NOW?
Heads should be rolling. Years ago.
And don't forget to dump your governor and senators whilst you are at it.
Re: Texas Big Freeze Aftermath
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 2:32 pm
by Jim
The future is here, and August is suppose to be much hotter than so far.
Wonder if pub voters in Texas will be happy about Abbott and the pubs did nothing over the last year?
Re: Texas Big Freeze Aftermath
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 2:39 pm
by raison de arizona
Jim wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 2:32 pm
The future is here, and August is suppose to be much hotter than so far.
Wonder if pub voters in Texas will be happy about Abbott and the pubs did nothing over the last year?
My prediction? They won't be happy, but they will blame it on teh "green" and definitely not go over to Beto.
But one can hope.
Re: Texas Big Freeze Aftermath
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 2:46 pm
by Slim Cognito
It's only a matter of time before some idiot complains about windmills stealing all the electricity.