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Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2023 7:38 am
by Kendra

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Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2023 3:37 pm
by Kendra

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Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2023 3:57 pm
by pipistrelle
They’re not “Hey Boomers” either.

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Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2023 4:41 pm
by somerset
Kendra wrote: Sun Feb 19, 2023 3:37 pm
Uday and Qusay are starting to look more alike

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Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2023 12:04 pm
by Kendra

The Great Patriot, who has sacrificed so much in service to his country, chimes in with the MAGA talking point du jour.

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Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2023 12:38 pm
by neonzx
Of course, because Biden has the special training skills to cleanup a toxic disaster, he should be in Palistine Ohio to lend his expertise.

Stuck on stupid some people are.

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Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:53 pm
by humblescribe
Once their sperm donor has a date with Charon to ferry him across the Styx, will these imbeciles go away quietly? Just fade away? Pretty please??

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Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2023 4:42 pm
by Frater I*I
humblescribe wrote: Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:53 pm Once their sperm donor has a date with Charon to ferry him across the Styx, will these imbeciles go away quietly? Just fade away? Pretty please??
I don't think that would happen, Charon requires payment....

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Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2023 4:52 pm
by humblescribe
Perhaps some classified files with a number of autographed souvenir MAGA caps might suffice?

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Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2023 5:37 pm
by Gregg
Wasn't there some civilization where they buried the master's servants with him, to do his bidding in the afterlife? I would be in favor of using taxpayer money for that.

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Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2023 9:28 pm
by Kendra

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Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2023 9:31 pm
by Kendra

Junior says now that Tucker has all the J6 footage we will be able to find out if federal agents instigated the whole thing like he believes.

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Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2023 9:56 pm
by Frater I*I
Gregg wrote: Mon Feb 20, 2023 5:37 pm Wasn't there some civilization where they buried the master's servants with him, to do his bidding in the afterlife? I would be in favor of using taxpayer money for that.
I think that was the Egyptians....

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Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2023 10:21 pm
by AndyinPA
Frater I*I wrote: Mon Feb 20, 2023 9:56 pm
Gregg wrote: Mon Feb 20, 2023 5:37 pm Wasn't there some civilization where they buried the master's servants with him, to do his bidding in the afterlife? I would be in favor of using taxpayer money for that.
I think that was the Egyptians....
The Chinese? Egyptians for sure.

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Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2023 10:26 pm
by neonzx
STOP YELLING -- my audiologist says it's harmful to my childhood damaged hearing.

Yelling does not make your argument more compelling, Jr.

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Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2023 11:04 pm
by Frater I*I
AndyinPA wrote: Mon Feb 20, 2023 10:21 pm
Frater I*I wrote: Mon Feb 20, 2023 9:56 pm :snippity:

I think that was the Egyptians....
The Chinese? Egyptians for sure.
Don't know about the Chinese, but they do get to go into the netherworld with a clay army :biggrin:

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Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2023 11:43 pm
by Azastan
AndyinPA wrote: Mon Feb 20, 2023 10:21 pm
The Chinese? Egyptians for sure.
The ancient Egyptians used shabti, which were mummiform figurines. The shabti were used as servants, so that the important person would not have to perform anything dirty, dangerous, or unseemly.

But they didn't bury actual humans with the 'master'.

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Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2023 12:56 am
by Dave from down under
Iirc some Euro-Asia did bury slaves (etc) with kings

Ghenghis Khan supposedly

According to Marco Polo, who arrived in Mongolia about 60 years later, soldiers accompanying the procession killed everyone they encountered, as well as some 2,000 servants, 40 horses and 40 "moonlike virgins" who were allegedly buried with the Khan to keep him company in the next world

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Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2023 1:43 am
by much ado
Ritual burial sacrifice was fairly widespread in ancient cultures.

Egypt:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_E ... sacrifices
Ancient Egyptian retainer sacrifice is a type of human sacrifice in which pharaohs and occasionally other high court nobility would have servants killed after the pharaohs' deaths to continue to serve them in the afterlife. In Egypt, retainer sacrifice only existed during the First Dynasty, from about 3100 BC to 2900 BC, slowly dwindling, and eventually dying out.
China and Mesoamerica:

https://sites.psu.edu/kerenw/?p=102
Human sacrifice refers to the practice of ritual killing of human beings as offerings to divine patrons, ancestors, or other superhuman forces. While the phenomenon of ritual human killings have been present in many societies throughout history, the types of human sacrifice that were practiced by ancient Chinese and pre-Colombian Mesoamerican cultures, which were exceptional in terms of the sheer number of people sacrificed, the frequency at which it was done, and the high degree of formalization of their sacrificial rituals. Large-scale, systematic human sacrifice functioned as important political and religious spectacles in Shang dynasty.

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Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2023 2:16 am
by keith
AndyinPA wrote: Mon Feb 20, 2023 10:21 pm
Frater I*I wrote: Mon Feb 20, 2023 9:56 pm
Gregg wrote: Mon Feb 20, 2023 5:37 pm Wasn't there some civilization where they buried the master's servants with him, to do his bidding in the afterlife? I would be in favor of using taxpayer money for that.
I think that was the Egyptians....
The Chinese? Egyptians for sure.
I don't think Egyptians buried 'human' servants. They buried 'dolls' to be used as servants in the afterlife. They did bury animals however.

Indian Hindus practiced 'suttee' (or 'sati') where the wife sacrifices herself on her husband's funeral pyre) well into the 20th century. Officially banned in the late 1980's it has still not been entirely eliminated.

The Maya and the Aztecs did it.

I recall a grave somewhere (mesopotamia I think) that contained, in addition to a chariot and horses to pull it with, many human servants apparently buried alive. But I can't for the life of me remember where. I guess I'll have to go check "The Masks Of God" again.

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Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2023 2:27 am
by much ado
keith wrote: Tue Feb 21, 2023 2:16 am I don't think Egyptians buried 'human' servants. They buried 'dolls' to be used as servants in the afterlife. They did bury animals however.
There are many sources that state that ritual sacrifice was practiced by the earliest of the ancient Egyptians.

For example...

http://www.ancient-egypt.org/from-a-to- ... ifice.html
Retainer sacrifice

At the royal cemetery of Umm el-Qa'ab, the tombs of the 1st Dynasty kings from Aha to Qa'a are accompanied by subsidiary burials. These burials are arranged in rows or blocks either extending from the royal tomb, as was the case with Aha, or surrounding it. The position of the subsidiary tombs compared to the royal tomb is believed to reflect the relationship of their occupants to the king during life.

Several tombs were found to contain skeletal remains. The analysis of some remains found in the subsidiary graves of Aha's tomb has shown that none of the individuals buried there was older than 25 years. This suggests that each of them may have been chosen to be buried along with the king.

From the time of Djet onwards, the owners of the subsidiary tombs would often be identified. Exceptionally, their name was painted in red ink on the south wall of their grave, but mostly it would be inscribed on a small stela that was placed in the tomb. This identification sometimes included a title. Thus we learn that a “royal sealbearer" was buried adjacent to Qa'a.
The most elaborate stela, also found in a grave next to Qa'a's burial chamber, belonged to a man named Sabef. On the stela, he is represented standing and holding a long stick, the usual posture of a high official . From his titulary, we see that he was “Keeper of the Tomb" of Qa'a and of the palace. He was also a priest and “Keeper of the Secrets and Decrees", a confident of the king.

Some of the people in the tombs next to their king were thus not nameless, anonymous people but individuals with a very distinct relationship to the king. At least a number of them were high officials.

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Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2023 2:49 am
by keith
much ado wrote: Tue Feb 21, 2023 2:27 am
keith wrote: Tue Feb 21, 2023 2:16 am I don't think Egyptians buried 'human' servants. They buried 'dolls' to be used as servants in the afterlife. They did bury animals however.
There are many sources that state that ritual sacrifice was practiced by the earliest of the ancient Egyptians.

For example...

http://www.ancient-egypt.org/from-a-to- ... ifice.html
Retainer sacrifice

At the royal cemetery of Umm el-Qa'ab, the tombs of the 1st Dynasty kings from Aha to Qa'a are accompanied by subsidiary burials. These burials are arranged in rows or blocks either extending from the royal tomb, as was the case with Aha, or surrounding it. The position of the subsidiary tombs compared to the royal tomb is believed to reflect the relationship of their occupants to the king during life.

Several tombs were found to contain skeletal remains. The analysis of some remains found in the subsidiary graves of Aha's tomb has shown that none of the individuals buried there was older than 25 years. This suggests that each of them may have been chosen to be buried along with the king.

From the time of Djet onwards, the owners of the subsidiary tombs would often be identified. Exceptionally, their name was painted in red ink on the south wall of their grave, but mostly it would be inscribed on a small stela that was placed in the tomb. This identification sometimes included a title. Thus we learn that a “royal sealbearer" was buried adjacent to Qa'a.
The most elaborate stela, also found in a grave next to Qa'a's burial chamber, belonged to a man named Sabef. On the stela, he is represented standing and holding a long stick, the usual posture of a high official . From his titulary, we see that he was “Keeper of the Tomb" of Qa'a and of the palace. He was also a priest and “Keeper of the Secrets and Decrees", a confident of the king.

Some of the people in the tombs next to their king were thus not nameless, anonymous people but individuals with a very distinct relationship to the king. At least a number of them were high officials.
OK, yeah. I've since found a source that says it did occur during the first dynasty.

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Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2023 3:40 am
by Gregg
So, we can bury all these phucktwaddle children with him when he assumes ambient temperature?

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Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2023 5:27 am
by tek
Gregg wrote: Tue Feb 21, 2023 3:40 am So, we can bury all these phucktwaddle children with him when he assumes ambient temperature?
My thoughts exactly. Maybe even before, just to get the process down.

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Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2023 9:35 am
by noblepa
AndyinPA wrote: Mon Feb 20, 2023 10:21 pm
Frater I*I wrote: Mon Feb 20, 2023 9:56 pm
Gregg wrote: Mon Feb 20, 2023 5:37 pm Wasn't there some civilization where they buried the master's servants with him, to do his bidding in the afterlife? I would be in favor of using taxpayer money for that.
I think that was the Egyptians....
The Chinese? Egyptians for sure.
Well, in at least one case, the Chinese buried thousands of terra cotta soldiers to protect the emporer.