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Sam the Centipede wrote: ↑Sat Dec 16, 2023 5:40 am Obviously Trump won't do anything to help Giuliani.

But I expect other rich assholes will move to provide Giuliani with free accommodation, travel, etc. No siezable cash or property that might be caught by liens, but free use of a nice apartment, use of a car, prepaid air tickets? That's not a problem, is it? Lawfolk can explain if there are complications.

One lesson of life is that rich assholes usually succeed in maintaining a rich asshole's lifestyle after what should be crippling judgements against them.

Joy Reid asked an attorney for two election workers how they intend to collect the $148 million a jury awarded them in their defamation lawsuit against Rudy Giuliani.

In the wake of the 2020 presidential election, Giuliani and a cadre of Trump hangers-on spread deranged conspiracy theories claiming the election had been stolen. Giuliani took matters a step further by singling out Ruby Freeman and Shaye Moss – two election workers in Georgia. He claimed they were handling election-altering USB drives “like vials of heroin or cocaine.”

The “drives” turned out to be mints.

The judge in the case issued a summary judgment deeming Giuliani liable for defamation after the former New York mayor admitted he made false statements about Freeman and Moss. A jury subsequently awarded the hefty sum to the plaintiffs. Throughout the case, Giuliani lashed out against the two and the judge.

On Friday’s edition of The ReidOut on MSNBC, the host interviewed the plaintiffs’ attorney, Von Dubose – to whom she listed Giuliani’s myriad financial woes.

“At this moment, Rudy Giuliani owes $500,000 in unpaid taxes,” she noted. “The IRS has a lien on his Palm Beach property. He’s selling his Upper East Side property. It’s on the market for $6 million, but it hasn’t been sold yet. “And his consulting firm defaulted on a debt for a phone bill. How are you gonna collect?”

“We’ve already put the pieces in motion for that,” he replied. “We are intending to collect every nickel of it. We’ll see how much we ultimately find and how much we ultimately recover. But we are putting the pieces together right now.”

“Just to sort of help our audience understand how this works, can these ladies put a lien on his properties?” Reid asked. “Would his tax returns be taken? Like, pragmatically, how could you make him pay?”

“Every enforcement measure at our fingertips will be put in play,” Dubose said. “So we’ll look at liens. We’ll look at garnishments, levies. We’ll look at everything. We’ll look at everything, absolutely.”

Ron Filipkowski @RonFilipkowski wrote: Rudy, looking like he is back at Four Seasons Total Landscaping, claims the opposing lawyers offered to settle the case if he would rat out Trump: “These people were working for the Bidens not for these women. They were asking me questions about Trump .. they wanted me to rat.”

raison de arizona wrote: ↑Sat Dec 16, 2023 6:57 pm

Ron Filipkowski @RonFilipkowski wrote: Rudy, looking like he is back at Four Seasons Total Landscaping, claims the opposing lawyers offered to settle the case if he would rat out Trump: “These people were working for the Bidens not for these women. They were asking me questions about Trump .. they wanted me to rat.”

Mr brolin wrote: ↑Mon Dec 18, 2023 7:54 am I'm working on presentation work for an information security forum around Financial, Operational, Reputational and Regulatory costs associated with data breaches and malware/ransomware breaches.

Is there a transcript or some part of the presentation from Ashlee Humphreys (expert witness who assisted in calculating the costs of the award) available anywhere?

Would be an excellent real world example of "Actions = Consequences".......

Mike Sington @MikeSington wrote: Rudy Giuliani makes wild new claim: The lawyers in the defamation case he just lost actually worked for Biden, and they wanted him to “rat” on Trump. (Video: Real America’s Voice)

Rolodex wrote: ↑Mon Dec 18, 2023 10:43 am

Mr brolin wrote: ↑Mon Dec 18, 2023 7:54 am I'm working on presentation work for an information security forum around Financial, Operational, Reputational and Regulatory costs associated with data breaches and malware/ransomware breaches.

Is there a transcript or some part of the presentation from Ashlee Humphreys (expert witness who assisted in calculating the costs of the award) available anywhere?

Would be an excellent real world example of "Actions = Consequences".......

I wish I could remember who it was, but one of the reporters live-tweeting the trial included a lot of her testimony. Maybe she'd give you her sources if you contact her directly.

raison de arizona wrote: ↑Mon Dec 18, 2023 11:57 am

Mike Sington @MikeSington wrote: Rudy Giuliani makes wild new claim: The lawyers in the defamation case he just lost actually worked for Biden, and they wanted him to “rat” on Trump. (Video: Real America’s Voice)

neonzx wrote: ↑Mon Dec 18, 2023 4:44 pm Oh NOES!!!

https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/18/politics ... index.html

CNN
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Ruby Freeman and Shaye Moss, the two Georgia election workers who won a nearly $150 million verdict against Rudy Giuliani for defamation on Friday, have sued him again, asking a federal judge to permanently prohibit him from lying about them.

The lawsuit comes as Giuliani has continued to make false statements about their work as absentee ballot counters in the 2020 election.

“Defendant Giuliani continues to spread the very same lies for which he has already been held liable,” the new lawsuit said. “Defendant Giuliani’s statements, coupled with his refusal to agree to refrain from continuing to make such statements, make clear that he intends to persist in his campaign of targeted defamation and harassment. It must stop.”

Acyn @Acyn wrote: Schmitt: Your initial allegations, do you still believe them to be true?

Giuliani: Yeah. Of course, they’ll sue me again for it when I say that. Yeah I do. They want me to lie. They basically— they are suing me in order to lie to them. I'm sorry. I can't do it.

Slim Cognito wrote: ↑Tue Dec 19, 2023 7:20 am I see he didn't bother to show the "evidence" he promised to show when he planned to testify at the trial. What's up with that?