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Re: Florida Man
Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2022 11:32 pm
by raison de arizona
pipistrelle wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 11:13 pm
Stupid question but is it concealed carry when you have a loaded gun in that compartment?
It depends on state law, but a quick review of FL law indicates you don't even need a permit to carry like that in FL.
Carrying Firearms in Private Vehicles
When concerning private vehicles, the concept of Possession of Private Conveyance comes into play. Located in subsection (5) of Florida Statute 790.25, Possession of Private Conveyance states that it is legal for an individual to carry a concealed weapon in their car without a permit.
However, for this law to apply, you must meet specific criteria. Here are the requirements for carrying a loaded gun in your car:
- You must be 18 years old or older. This statute does not protect anyone under the age of 18 years old at the time of the offense.
- You must have a viable reason to own a gun. You must have the gun in your car for self-defense or other lawful purposes, such as driving to and from an outing that involves lawful hunting or marksmanship practice.
- The gun cannot be on your person. The statute specifies that the gun must be “within the interior of a private conveyance” (in other words, inside of your vehicle) and does not protect you if the gun is on your person.
- The gun must be securely encased or otherwise not readily accessible. You must keep your gun secured and ensure it cannot be grabbed easily by any passengers. This may involve having it snapped into a holster, stored in a glove compartment, or put in a gun case with a cover (locked or unlocked). No matter where it is, make sure the weapon is not “readily accessible for immediate use” and well out of your immediate reach.
The Possession in Private Conveyance subsection only applies to people who do not have a concealed carry permit. If you do have a permit, you may lawfully carry a concealed weapon in your vehicle.
https://www.mikeglaw.com/florida-vehicl ... -your-car/
Re: Florida Man
Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2022 2:33 am
by Gregg
pipistrelle wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 11:13 pm
Stupid question but is it concealed carry when you have a loaded gun in that compartment?
In Florida they don't bother to charge you as long as you actually fire it at someone, as opposed to just whipping it out, for which you can get a distracted driving ticket.
Re: Florida Man
Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2022 8:58 am
by bill_g
That's insane (but we are talking about Flawduh).
That suggests I could pull out my handgun, wildly fire off a round towards a crowd, and not get cited for reckless endangerment.
Re: Florida Man
Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2022 10:11 am
by W. Kevin Vicklund
bill_g wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 8:58 am
That's insane (but we are talking about Flawduh).
That suggests I could pull out my handgun, wildly fire off a round towards a crowd, and not get cited for reckless endangerment.
Unless you're Black.
Re: Florida Man
Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2022 10:43 am
by bill_g
W. Kevin Vicklund wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 10:11 am
bill_g wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 8:58 am
That's insane (but we are talking about Flawduh).
That suggests I could pull out my handgun, wildly fire off a round towards a crowd, and not get cited for reckless endangerment.
Unless you're Black.
[snark]That caveat is probably in their constitution. Certainly assumed.[/snark]
Re: Florida Man
Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:29 pm
by Gregg
I was (mostly) joking) guys.
Re: Florida Man
Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:35 pm
by W. Kevin Vicklund
Gregg wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:29 pm
I was (mostly) joking) guys.
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Re: Florida Man
Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2022 6:42 pm
by W. Kevin Vicklund
Florida Man Stole Car "In Good Faith" Then A Train Launched It Into A House
He later tried to steal a forklift. Dude had a hell of a night.
ByJason Torchinsky
I have to admit, if we judge this in terms of scale-of-fiasco, you have to be seriously impressed with what Bradford Weitzel, a 38 year-old Florida Man in every sense of those words managed to accomplish. There are cars, trains, fruit, and even a forklift involved here. It’s like a dazzling carnival of idiotic decisions that just keep going and going, and it even ends with the suspect flagging down the cops himself. It’s so good.
I think I’ll just quote the Martin County Sheriff’s Office’s Facebook post to give you the essential details and timeline here:
38-year old Bradford Weitzel, of Port St. Lucie, told Martin County Sheriff’s Detectives that he couldn’t find his car after leaving a Martin County bar early this morning, so he stole one in a good faith effort to locate his own. He said he somehow ended up on the train tracks along Indian River Drive. That’s when Weitzel claims the vehicle he stole suddenly stopped dead on the tracks as a train was coming. So he said he got out and ran, leaving the car on the tracks. Within seconds, the train hit the car, catapulting it into a nearby home where the homeowners were sound asleep. Fortunately, they were not physically injured, although the explosive sound of a driverless car smashing into the side of their home was clearly jolting. Meanwhile, Weitzel continued on to a nearby fruit stand, where he vandalized the business then tried to steal a forklift. In the end, Weitzel said he thought it was best to flag down the responding deputies to let them know he was still looking for his car.
Bradford Weitzel was arrested and charged with Grand Theft, and Criminal Mischief. Additional charges are expected.
ETA link:
https://jalopnik.com/florida-man-stole- ... 1848492946
Re: Florida Man
Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2022 7:19 pm
by Phoenix520
Sounds like powerful drugs at work.
Re: Florida Man
Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2022 8:00 pm
by northland10
It is never mentioned, in multiple articles, if they figured out where his car was. I am wondering if he did not actually have one there or friends took off without him, in whatever car they came in.
Re: Florida Man
Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2022 9:23 am
by Foggy
What kind of a self-respecting Florida Man can't even steal a little forklift?
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Re: Florida Man
Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2022 11:51 am
by Volkonski
Equality Florida
@equalityfl
Sen.
@loriberman
: Am I right to read that this bill would allow a parent to sue a school if their child requests a vegetarian meal for lunch and they are not consulted?
Sen. Baxley says yes.
Re: Florida Man
Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2022 11:52 am
by Volkonski
Equality Florida
@equalityfl
·
Feb 8
Sen.
@ShevrinJones
: Have you spoken to any family whose K-3 aged child has had these conversations in school?
Sen.
@dennisbaxley
: This isn't about personal stories.
That's code for "no". He has not.
Re: Florida Man
Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2022 11:53 am
by Volkonski
Equality Florida
@equalityfl
·
Feb 8
Replying to
@equalityfl
Sen.
@TinaPolsky
asks -- what about kids with LGBTQ parents? If they come to school and it invokes questions, then what?
Sen.
@dennisbaxley
suggests that acknowledging LGBTQ people is "sexual" in nature. And teachers should stay quiet.
This is censorship.
Re: Florida Man
Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2022 11:53 am
by Volkonski
Equality Florida
@equalityfl
·
Feb 8
In a furious rush, Chair
@JoeGruters
halts public testimony, rams through a vote, and adjourns the committee. The bill passes along party lines.
The march of Don't Say Gay continues despite widespread condemnation and outrage from Floridians (and the nation).
Re: Florida Man
Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2022 11:54 am
by Volkonski
Matt Kirkland
@mattkirx
·
11h
Replying to
@equalityfl
and
@loriberman
Who even thought of this? So the school has to call the parents and say their kid chose to eat their vegetables? And would any parent not approve? And then what? The kid is forced to eat chicken nuggets? And these are the "small government people?"
Re: Florida Man
Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2022 2:38 pm
by noblepa
Volkonski wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 11:54 am
Matt Kirkland
@mattkirx
·
11h
Replying to
@equalityfl
and
@loriberman
Who even thought of this? So the school has to call the parents and say their kid chose to eat their vegetables? And would any parent not approve? And then what? The kid is forced to eat chicken nuggets? And these are the "small government people?"
I remember once that Jay Leno, in his opening monologue on the Tonight Show, he told a joke about the republicans wanting smaller government . . . just small enough to fit in your bedroom.
Re: Florida Man
Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2022 3:36 pm
by Gregg
Ya know, someone with a kid in school who wanted to turn this bullshit back on them could really make a complete mockery of it and on the side force the state to spend millions on defending themselves from the damages inflicted on a young boy of British ancestry who became uncomfortable at the aspersions cast upon King George III in his history class.
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Re: Florida Man
Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2022 4:04 pm
by RVInit
Volkonski wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 11:54 am
Matt Kirkland
@mattkirx
·
11h
Replying to
@equalityfl
and
@loriberman
Who even thought of this? So the school has to call the parents and say their kid chose to eat their vegetables? And would any parent not approve? And then what? The kid is forced to eat chicken nuggets? And these are the "small government people?"
The person who is asking this question is either too young to remember or just doesn't remember what Sarah Palin did when Barack Obama was President.
Michelle Obama was encouraging schools to add more nutritious choices to the school lunch menu. She was NOT asking them to remove unhealthy choices. So, the only difference is that children would have had more choice, and the additional choices would be healthy choices. Palin could not tolerate that. So, she took huge piles of cookies to an elementary school. Just because.
Re: Florida Man
Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2022 5:20 pm
by Gregg
Cookies are cheap, she should have brought insulin.
Great line that it is, also, serious.
Re: Florida Man
Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2022 6:06 pm
by W. Kevin Vicklund
So the bill itself doesn't actually say that parents have to be consulted if a child asks for vegetarian lunches, but it does say it applies to any "critical decisions." What the senator subtly pointed out is that the proposed law doesn't define what a "critical decision" is. Which means the law is:
1) Unconstitutionally vague
2) Not narrowly tailored to it's purpose
3) Unconstitutionally imposes prior restraint
Re: Florida Man
Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2022 7:22 pm
by Slim Cognito
Gregg wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 5:20 pm
Cookies are cheap, she should have brought insulin.
Great line that it is, also, serious.
And I bet the bimbo didn't bother to check for peanuts or peanut oil or peanut butter or...
Re: Florida Man
Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2022 9:12 pm
by Frater I*I
Slim Cognito wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 7:22 pm
And I bet the bimbo didn't bother to check for peanuts or peanut oil or peanut butter or...
Or cyanide....
Okay, okay, too dark...
I know where the door is....
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Re: Florida Man
Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2022 2:02 am
by Gregg
Honestly I wouldn't have thought of that.
Never had kids, never learned the rules...
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Re: Florida Man
Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2022 5:03 am
by Suranis
Honesty, It would not surprise me if the junk food companies were not at least partially behind this. They have done worse in trying to fuck up school dinners.