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Re: Matthew "Matt" Louis Gaetz II R-FL1 "Soulless, Power-Hungry Ghoul" "Petulant Idiot" & His Helper, Nestor Galban

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 4:54 pm
by Luke
Oh my. Julie K. Brown is an investigative journalist with the Miami Herald.
julie k. brown @jkbjournalist 32m
"Gaetz's arrest is said to be imminent after the alleged victim, who has not been named, testified before a Florida grand jury this week saying she had sex with the conservative Republican before she turned 18, http://DailyMail.com has learned. "

Paula McEneaney @paula_mceneaney 36m
Matt Gaetz's arrest is imminent as sources say Joel Greenberg has been 'singing to the feds' - Gaetz is finished! Resign! https://dailymail.co.uk/news/article-94 ... -feds.html


EXCLUSIVE: 'His friend has been singing to the feds - that's why Matt is so freaked out.' Gaetz's arrest is imminent as jailed tax collector Joel Greenberg faces charges of having sex with same 17-year-old and 'making fake ID's with the congressman'
The investigation into Matt Gaetz is linked to his friendship with Joel Greenberg, a Florida tax collector currently in jail awaiting trial on sex trafficking charges
It emerged Tuesday that Gaetz is under investigation by the DOJ over allegedly having sex with a girl, 17, two years ago
Further allegations surfaced Thursday claiming Gaetz had paid for sex with women who Greenberg allegedly met on 'sugar daddy' websites
The 17-year-old girl at the center of the sex trafficking probe is the same girl Greenberg has accused of sex trafficking, say sources
New report Friday revealed Gaetz caught the attention of investigators after he was seen accompanying Greenberg during a late night visit to a tax office
Greenberg is charged with identity theft after allegedly making fake IDs
Gaetz, who has not been charged with any crimes, is expected to be indicted within the next few weeks
By JOSE LAMBIET and KAREN RUIZ FOR DAILYMAIL.COM
PUBLISHED: 15:24 EDT, 2 April 2021 | UPDATED: 16:01 EDT, 2 April 2021

Rep Matt Gaetz is expected to be indicted within the next few weeks as former Florida official and friend Joel Greenberg is believed to have turned on the congressman in the sex trafficking investigation against him, a source close to the probe tells DailyMail.com.

Greenberg, who was elected Seminole County Tax Collector in 2016, is currently in jail awaiting trial after being slapped with a string of charges last year including sex trafficking a minor between the age of 14 and 17.

Earlier this week Gaetz was revealed to be under investigation for allegedly engaging in a sexual relationship with a 17-year-old - who on Thursday was reported to be the same girl Greenberg is accused of sex trafficking, according to The New York Times.

The Florida Republican, 38, has furiously denied the allegations, instead insisting they are part of an alleged $25million extortion plot led by former Justice Department official David McGee.

But sources familiar with the matter say Gaetz's claims are just an attempt to divert attention from his connection to the Greenberg case as the investigation closes in on him.
Moar: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... -feds.html

Now even the Washington Examiner is calling him "Defiant Matt Gaetz"





:thumbsup: :popcorn:

Re: Matthew "Matt" Louis Gaetz II R-FL1 "Soulless, Power-Hungry Ghoul" "Petulant Idiot" & His Helper, Nestor Galban

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 4:54 pm
by tek
Chilidog wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 4:09 pm
Questions:

1) How the hell does a county tax assessor manage to get into secure areas where state drivers licenses are processed?

I know it's Floridah, but still. Up north, our state offices are in totally different buildings from the county.

2) when were the identity theft indictments against Greenberg issued, and if there was evidence that Gaetz participated, why hasn't an indictment against him been issued?
County "tax collectors" do a LOT in Florida. Here's the list from the PBC tax collector's web page:
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Re: Matthew "Matt" Louis Gaetz II R-FL1 "Soulless, Power-Hungry Ghoul" "Petulant Idiot" & His Helper, Nestor Galban

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 5:04 pm
by Kendra

Re: Matthew "Matt" Louis Gaetz II R-FL1 "Soulless, Power-Hungry Ghoul" "Petulant Idiot" & His Helper, Nestor Galban

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 5:42 pm
by Luke
:lol: on the cartoon.

This Mother Jones story about the history of Matty is good weekend reading, full of crazy details.

How Matt Gaetz Used Daddy’s Money to Become Trump’s Favorite Congressman
Like the president, the Florida Republican rode family connections, unorthodox real estate deals, and trolling to political fame.
Stephanie Mencimer September/October 2019 Issue

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/20 ... ngressman/

Re: Matthew "Matt" Louis Gaetz II R-FL1 "Soulless, Power-Hungry Ghoul" "Petulant Idiot" & His Helper, Nestor Galban

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 5:47 pm
by Kendra
Andy Borowitz is on a roll on FB with the Matt Gaetz jokes.

Re: Matthew "Matt" Louis Gaetz II R-FL1 "Soulless, Power-Hungry Ghoul" "Petulant Idiot" & His Helper, Nestor Galban

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 6:36 pm
by jcolvin2
I downloaded the third superseding indictment in the Joel Greenberg case, which was filed on Tuesday. It is a bit too large to attach (962k).

According to the indictment, Greenberg obtained driver's license information with respect to the 14-17 year old girl ("Minor Victim"), and then later used the ID information in connection with the Mann Act/procurement charges. (Counts Two and Four, respectively). Maybe a false ID upped her age in order to provide a defense to a Mann Act charge?

Re: Matthew "Matt" Louis Gaetz II R-FL1 "Soulless, Power-Hungry Ghoul" "Petulant Idiot" & His Helper, Nestor Galban

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 7:01 pm
by Luke
Wait, what? Why is the Israeli consulate texting with Scott Adams? This keeps getting more nutz. From The American Conservative:
Leaked Texts From Israeli Consulate Employee Show More Details In Gaetz-Levinson Funding Scheme
'We only asked for $25 million as an estimate at first. We came way down.'
APRIL 2, 2021|4:58 PM ARTHUR BLOOM

Three screenshots of texts between Scott Adams, creator of Dilbert, and Jake Novak, media director of the Israeli consulate in New York City were shared with TAC. The messages were authenticated by one of the parties to them.

In the first screenshot, Novak messaged Adams last Saturday to tell him about the investigation into Gaetz. The New York Times story on the Gaetz investigation was not published until Tuesday.

In the second, Novak appears to represent himself as deeply involved in the efforts to free Bob Levinson from Iran, telling Adams “this is screwing up my efforts to free Bob Levinson.”

“Gaetz’s dad was secretly finding [sic] us,” he continues. “So I’m very much wanting this to be untrue. I’ve got a commando team leader friend of mine nervously waiting for the wire transfers to clear.”

In the third screenshot, Novak casts doubt on Gaetz’s claims that he is being extorted. “The real documents do not extort,” he writes, “And we only asked for $25 million as an estimate at first. We came way down.”
https://www.theamericanconservative.com ... ng-scheme/
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Re: Matthew "Matt" Louis Gaetz II R-FL1 "Soulless, Power-Hungry Ghoul" "Petulant Idiot" & His Helper, Nestor Galban

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 7:24 pm
by Fiascoist
Julie K. Brown, famous for her JeffreyEpstein reporting, is on this. And I remember the old joke about having a bad day when you come to work and 60 Minutes is sitting in your waiting room. This feels similar. And I hope this is the first domino that takes some of these a**holes down. Thinking Roger Stone and Gym Jordan first and foremost.

Re: Matthew "Matt" Louis Gaetz II R-FL1 "Soulless, Power-Hungry Ghoul" "Petulant Idiot" & His Helper, Nestor Galban

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 7:31 pm
by Slim Cognito
Forgive my stupidity but I'm still befuddled. How are the two stories related? I understand how Gaetz came to be under investigation. I don't understand the extortion story. Daddy Gaetz was funding a ransom for a hostage who was already believed to be dead? Daddy wore a wire to trap the extortionist, but (as I understood whichever story I was reading at the time) didn't say anything extortiony?

Re: Matthew "Matt" Louis Gaetz II R-FL1 "Soulless, Power-Hungry Ghoul" "Petulant Idiot" & His Helper, Nestor Galban

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 7:59 pm
by Suranis
From my understanding. the tie into the extortion story is that the extorted was asking for 25 mill, or they would blab on Gaetz stuff. The thing is that indicates the blackmail Material was true, otherwise Gaetz would have reacted differently, i.e. by telling them to get lost.

Aside from that there is no connection. The rapid fire unloading of evidence on Gaetz by everyone that hates him is unrelated and is extra stuff.

Re: Matthew "Matt" Louis Gaetz II R-FL1 "Soulless, Power-Hungry Ghoul" "Petulant Idiot" & His Helper, Nestor Galban

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 8:24 pm
by Patagoniagirl
It appears to me that Daddy Gaetz was asked to fund a search for the missing ex-CIA guy. This was prior to the Matt explosure. So they really had nothing to do with each other. But Matty perhaps thought it would be a good distraction from the shit show he knew was coming? Just my guess.

Re: Matthew "Matt" Louis Gaetz II R-FL1 "Soulless, Power-Hungry Ghoul" "Petulant Idiot" & His Helper, Nestor Galban

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 9:54 pm
by MN-Skeptic
No, go back to what orlylicious posted - https://thefogbow.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=9122#p9122. They knew Gaetz was being investigated. What the $25 million would do is free Robert Levinson (who had previously been declared dead) from captivity in Iran. Matt Gaetz would take the credit for facilitating this and, out of gratitude, Biden would pardon Gaetz for all his sex trafficking felonies.

Re: Matthew "Matt" Louis Gaetz II R-FL1 "Soulless, Power-Hungry Ghoul" "Petulant Idiot" & His Helper, Nestor Galban

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 10:44 pm
by Luke
Exactly MN. The curveball is this Israeli consulate guy, he's saying Matt's Dad had been funding it all along. And nothing wrong with that, McGee repped the family pro bono for 13 years. Maybe the Iranians through the Israelis said pay to release Levinson. So the extortion angle wouldn't make any sense, what threat of extortion when Daddy Gaetz was involved all the time? If this was Baby Gaetz trying the "flood the zone" playbook it's going to be a big cigar blowing up in his formerly pudgy face.

But all of that has nothing to do with the sex scandal of Matt's, that's Baby Gaetz and the jailed former Tax Collector of Seminole County (near Orlando) felon. Maddow Blog uncovers some more of how they were discovered on that piece of it. If those pieces of shit were making fake IDs for underage girls they found on SeekingArrangement.com (which is a very popular site, it has girls and guys on it, have run into some powerful players there), that's just all kinds of jail time.





And showing the photos of these girls around. Maybe Louis Golmert pushed others out of the way to see them.





POS.




Baby Gaetz posted this a half-hour ago, it's Grant Stinchfield, an ignorant tool on Newsmax whining. Baby Gaetz must still be jockeying for that job. And who shows up licking the bottom of the barrel? Why, Alan Dershowitz of course!

Grant had this slide up during his "report" (which repeatedly he says he doesn't know if Baby Gaetz is guilty, but MEDIA!!!)


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Rep. Matt Gaetz @RepMattGaetz 35m

The media protects Democrats and seeks to attack Republicans.

But when it comes to Trump Republicans, and certainly Trump himself, the left levels the punishment before the facts are even known.



This is wild stuff. And still nothing from the DL2XIT's family, Baby Gaetz's "friends" in Congress, and even his Comms guy said no mas. He sure seems fu*ked. It's enjoyable watching that arrogant, smug little bastard go down. :P

Re: Matthew "Matt" Louis Gaetz II R-FL1 "Soulless, Power-Hungry Ghoul" "Petulant Idiot" & His Helper, Nestor Galban

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 11:13 pm
by Volkonski


MSNBC
@MSNBC
“Nothing that is happening is wise. It’s not wise to go on Tucker Carlson and accuse him of other sexual peccadillos,” fmr. prosecutor Cynthia Alksne says. “Wisdom is not driving the day for Matt Gaetz.”

Re: Matthew "Matt" Louis Gaetz II R-FL1 "Soulless, Power-Hungry Ghoul" "Petulant Idiot" & His Helper, Nestor Galban

Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2021 12:51 am
by sad-cafe
Did those NUDE women KNOW they were being photographed???????????????????????

Re: Matthew "Matt" Louis Gaetz II R-FL1 "Soulless, Power-Hungry Ghoul" "Petulant Idiot" & His Helper, Nestor Galban

Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2021 1:39 am
by Lani
When I was young and attractive in WDC, if someone attempted to take a picture, I'd grab the camera and rip out the film. (Yeah, I'm old.)

Re: Matthew "Matt" Louis Gaetz II R-FL1 "Soulless, Power-Hungry Ghoul" "Petulant Idiot" & His Helper, Nestor Galban

Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2021 2:26 am
by neonzx
Lani wrote: Sat Apr 03, 2021 1:39 am When I was young and attractive in WDC, if someone attempted to take a picture, I'd grab the camera and rip out the film. (Yeah, I'm old.)
I think you are still attractive, even though I''ve never seen a photo. But the visual of you grabbing a camera and ripping out the film is funny as F. :lol: You go, gurl.

Re: Matthew "Matt" Louis Gaetz II R-FL1 "Soulless, Power-Hungry Ghoul" "Petulant Idiot" & His Helper, Nestor Galban

Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2021 3:33 am
by Lani
neonzx wrote: Sat Apr 03, 2021 2:26 am
Lani wrote: Sat Apr 03, 2021 1:39 am When I was young and attractive in WDC, if someone attempted to take a picture, I'd grab the camera and rip out the film. (Yeah, I'm old.)
I think you are still attractive, even though I''ve never seen a photo. But the visual of you grabbing a camera and ripping out the film is funny as F. :lol: You go, gurl.
Well, now I'm old. But early in my life in WDC, predators were common. I had many offers to be a paid escort for congress critters - with or without sex. That was just the reality that time. Apparently, nothing has changed.

Re: Matthew "Matt" Louis Gaetz II R-FL1 "Soulless, Power-Hungry Ghoul" "Petulant Idiot" & His Helper, Nestor Galban

Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2021 6:18 am
by tek
“Wisdom is not driving the day for Matt Gaetz.”
Also, water is wet.

Re: Matthew "Matt" Louis Gaetz II R-FL1 "Soulless, Power-Hungry Ghoul" "Petulant Idiot" & His Helper, Nestor Galban

Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2021 6:32 am
by p0rtia
Slim Cognito wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 7:31 pm Forgive my stupidity but I'm still befuddled. How are the two stories related? I understand how Gaetz came to be under investigation. I don't understand the extortion story. Daddy Gaetz was funding a ransom for a hostage who was already believed to be dead? Daddy wore a wire to trap the extortionist, but (as I understood whichever story I was reading at the time) didn't say anything extortiony?
They are not connected, other than, possibly, the DOJ/FBI has a hand in both 1) an investigation of Gaetz's illicit spending and sexual proclivities and (presumably), and 2) an investigation of some plan to make money off an attempt to free a dead man who was being held in Iran.

Gaetz, however, is pretending they are connected and saying that the FBI is the one extorting the money from his family and is making up a bogus sex/spending story to pressure him into paying up/complying/covering their ass.

That's it. IOW, there is no connection.

Re: Matthew "Matt" Louis Gaetz II R-FL1 "Soulless, Power-Hungry Ghoul" "Petulant Idiot" & His Helper, Nestor Galban

Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2021 7:45 am
by Maybenaut
From a tweet upthread:
@kylegriffin1 wrote: Matt Gaetz allegedly showed off to other lawmakers photos and videos of nude women he said he had slept with, including while on the House floor. Sources said Gaetz displayed the images of women on his phone and talked about having sex with them. https://cnn.it/3fD7hEm
:shock: Matt Gaetz slept with women while on the House floor?!

Jeebus, Kyle... Put the “including while...” language at the end of the second sentence.

Re: Matthew "Matt" Louis Gaetz II R-FL1 "Soulless, Power-Hungry Ghoul" "Petulant Idiot" & His Helper, Nestor Galban

Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2021 9:16 am
by Volkonski
Daily Mail but still might be true.

Rep. Matt Gaetz's 'sleazy sex game included a Harry Potter challenge where Florida lawmakers earned extra points for sleeping with married colleagues, virgins and in sorority houses'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... ailymailus
The congressman, who is under investigation by the Justice Department for allegedly having sex with a 17-year-old girl and trafficking her across state lines, purportedly took part in the competition with other male lawmakers in the Florida state legislature.

A female GOP insider who worked with Gaetz during his time in the Florida House told Business Insider the men would play to win points for their sexual escapades with the ultimate prize going to the person who bedded a woman dubbed 'the snitch'.

Gaetz has been tied to the sleazy game in the past but new details have emerged as the congressman's behavior is under the spotlight, following Tuesday's revelation of the DOJ probe.

Reports surfaced this week claiming he showed off naked photos of women he said he had slept with to other lawmakers on the House floor and that he has been warned in the past about behaving professionally in Congress.

Re: Matthew "Matt" Louis Gaetz II R-FL1 "Soulless, Power-Hungry Ghoul" "Petulant Idiot" & His Helper, Nestor Galban

Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2021 9:26 am
by fierceredpanda
Meanwhile, apparently Roger Stone went on Alex Jones to state that Gaetz should "go on offense."

I think Stone fails to appreciate that his "be a complete raging asshole while under federal investigation" strategy only worked out for him because Donald Trump was in the White House to give him a pardon. And I suspect Stone will be paying the legal fees from that imbroglio for the rest of his days.

Also, regarding the alleged extortion/funding the Levinson rescue angle, I'm confused. Does Gaetz family even have $25 million to pay?

Re: Matthew "Matt" Louis Gaetz II R-FL1 "Soulless, Power-Hungry Ghoul" "Petulant Idiot" & His Helper, Nestor Galban

Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2021 9:52 am
by SlimSloSlider
fierceredpanda wrote: Sat Apr 03, 2021 9:26 am
Also, regarding the alleged extortion/funding the Levinson rescue angle, I'm confused. Does Gaetz family even have $25 million to pay?
Dad made much much more than that when he sold his healthcare business in 2008.
A settlement for an undisclosed amount was subsequently made concerning allegations of Medicare fraud.
But yes, probably as much as $500 million.

Re: Matthew "Matt" Louis Gaetz II R-FL1 "Soulless, Power-Hungry Ghoul" "Petulant Idiot" & His Helper, Nestor Galban

Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2021 10:05 am
by fierceredpanda
SlimSloSlider wrote: Sat Apr 03, 2021 9:52 am
fierceredpanda wrote: Sat Apr 03, 2021 9:26 am
Also, regarding the alleged extortion/funding the Levinson rescue angle, I'm confused. Does Gaetz family even have $25 million to pay?
Dad made much much more than that when he sold his healthcare business in 2008.
A settlement for an undisclosed amount was subsequently made concerning allegations of Medicare fraud.
But yes, probably as much as $500 million.
Damn. I had no idea.
Off Topic
Also, I am self-aware enough to know that I have a bad habit of throwing cheap fashion cracks at men I dislike, but I cannot help myself: I should have guessed, because Nunes' suits are the kind where you have to spend money to look that bad. Sure, you can buy ill-fitting or badly-made suits off the peg, but not in the ridiculous plaid patterns that Gaetz favors. That kind of bad taste is expensive. He reminds me of a hot-shot criminal defense attorney near where I practice. Guy handles a lot of reasonably high-profile cases, especially homicides. I once saw him at a courthouse wearing a navy blazer over a pale orange shirt and pink pants (I honestly don't remember what shoes he was wearing to go with the trousers), brought together with a navy and pink bowtie.

I confess that if I were a judge, I would seriously consider holding in contempt an attorney who dressed that way in my courtroom. (As opposed to the asshole chauvinist judge in my area who used to sanction female attorneys for daring to wear pants instead of skirts.)