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Once upon a long, long time ago...

raison de arizona wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2023 6:19 pm Once upon a long, long time ago...

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Ya know what? If you lived in NYC during Rudy’s Reign of Terror, he was hated with a purple passion by all who had an ounce of liberal blood coursing through their veins. That did not change with 9/11.

Maybenaut wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2023 4:37 pm Assuming there’s a judgment, Giuliani will either have to pay it or post an appeal bond. Either way, he’s ruined financially, assuming a large judgment.

No, he can refuse to pay and let the plaintiffs chase his assets.

Dr. Caligari wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2023 6:25 pm

Maybenaut wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2023 4:37 pm Assuming there’s a judgment, Giuliani will either have to pay it or post an appeal bond. Either way, he’s ruined financially, assuming a large judgment.

No, he can refuse to pay and let the plaintiffs chase his assets.

Can the court place a lien on assets?

much ado wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2023 6:30 pm
Can the court place a lien on assets?

The plaintiffs can place liens on any assets they find. Others may have already put liens on the major assets, however, and (unless Rudy files for bankruptcy) liens usually get paid off in order of filing.

Acyn @Acyn wrote: Giuliani: The absurdity of the number underscores the absurdity of the entire proceedings. I am quite confident when this case gets before a fair tribunal, it'll be reversed so quickly, it'll make your head spin.

Still shilling.

Lauren Windsor @lawindsor wrote: EXCLUSIVE: Outside of the Prettyman Courthouse, I asked Rudy Giuliani why as "America's Mayor" he's willing to risk it all for Donald Trump, and what Trump is doing for him in return.

I love Smackdown Friday!

Dr. Caligari wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2023 6:25 pm

Maybenaut wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2023 4:37 pm Assuming there’s a judgment, Giuliani will either have to pay it or post an appeal bond. Either way, he’s ruined financially, assuming a large judgment.

No, he can refuse to pay and let the plaintiffs chase his assets.

Perhaps, but there’s no universe in which he gets to keep his assets. Either the plaintiffs get them or they’ll go to whomever has superior liens. My point is that he’s financially ruined no matter what happens.

W. Kevin Vicklund wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2023 6:46 pm I love Smackdown Friday!

Yes! A gift that will keep on giving! I imagine Fani Willis and team are storing his comments for the future. Does anyone know if the two gentlemen on both sides of Rudy are attorney's or security? They did look too enthusiastic over comments roodles was making.

CNN just had attorney Ryan Goodman and John Avlon on. I hope we see more of Avlon in the next couple of days, once upon a time he worked for Rudy as I think a speechwriter (or similar). His comments and perspective are appreciated by me.

2 quick points which may be applicable here.
1. From my olden days of state appeals, the cost of the bond was the same as the judgment amount unless it was a cost bond. Only by putting up all the money would a stay be imposed on collection.
2. Bankruptcy (Chapter 7) is pretty useless here except to grant him a few months of breathing room while not having control over his remaining assets since intentional torts are not dischargeable, well, middle income people's intentional torts are not, but I am positive rich people's, like Roodles, are. And a 13, a reorganization, would never get approved...oh, and he loses control there, too. And there are no separate exemptions for alcohol or cigars, but hair dye would gounder personal needs.

I have many questions. But I guess what I really want to know is this...

How long will it be until Rudy actually feels the impact of this judgement? When will he actually be required to give up, in any fashion, his assets? When will he become significantly poorer? Will it be weeks, months, years? Any guess?

much ado wrote: ↑Sat Dec 16, 2023 1:39 am I have many questions. But I guess what I really want to know is this...

How long will it be until Rudy actually feels the impact of this judgement? When will he actually be required to give up, in any fashion, his assets? When will he become significantly poorer? Will it be weeks, months, years? Any guess?

IANAL, but Rudy is f*cked here times over. How long with the system of process and appeals I am not sure.

We are dealing with tfg and you all see how long this is taking.

Rudy is small fish..

https://x.com/ShawnReynolds_/status/1735778484717297875

Shawn Reynolds
@ShawnReynolds_

BTW, Kate McKinnnon, who does a Giuliani impression, hosts @nbcsnl
this weekend. I bet the writers are reworking the cold open right now.

Obviously Trump won't do anything to help Giuliani.

But I expect other rich assholes will move to provide Giuliani with free accommodation, travel, etc. No siezable cash or property that might be caught by liens, but free use of a nice apartment, use of a car, prepaid air tickets? That's not a problem, is it? Lawfolk can explain if there are complications.

One lesson of life is that rich assholes usually succeed in maintaining a rich asshole's lifestyle after what should be crippling judgements against them.

For the holidays, Git brought back Randy Rainbow's "Rudy the Leaky Lawyer"





Ho ho ho!

Orlylicious! I was getting worried about you too! Glad to see you posting.

Compare and contrast.

jemcanada2 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 16, 2023 8:12 am Orlylicious! I was getting worried about you too! Glad to see you posting.

Me, too!

much ado wrote: ↑Sat Dec 16, 2023 1:39 am I have many questions. But I guess what I really want to know is this...

How long will it be until Rudy actually feels the impact of this judgement? When will he actually be required to give up, in any fashion, his assets? When will he become significantly poorer? Will it be weeks, months, years? Any guess?

I noticed that he arrived at the courthouse via limo two days in a row. As with so many rich and corrupt people, he’ll go on living large for quite some time. That being said, Rudes is singularly lacking in charm and that will shorten his grace period.

Blackmailing former political and business associates will be an option for him, though, you betcha.

Estiveo wrote: ↑Sat Dec 16, 2023 8:22 am Compare and contrast.
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That haircut is on purpose?

Is that like an inverse mullet?

Oh wait, I know! It's the neo-Nazi mullet: Business in the front, pogrom in the back.

People are calling him Merkin Man.