Re: Spreadnecks: Coronavirus Anti-Maskers, Anti-Vaxxers, Etc.
Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 12:39 pm
by FiveAcres
DejaMoo wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 12:34 pm
Once they figure out that the active ingredient in Heartgard is ivermectin, there won't be any left to treat dogs.
I picked up the next six months of Heartguard for my two dogs last week. And since I live in deepest red Colorado Springs, I was just glad that the vet had it on hand, and hoping that the clinic didn't think I was getting it for myself.
A friend of mine was fulminating about people buying veterinary supplies for human use. "If they had any sense, they would get the stuff for dogs. The dosage is a lot more likely to be safer for human beings than getting the stuff for horses." Of course, it they had any sense, they would have gotten vaccinated.
Re: Spreadnecks: Coronavirus Anti-Maskers, Anti-Vaxxers, Etc.
Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 2:22 pm
by LM K
ZinWhit wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 3:46 pm
I've posted about a group of doctors who own a major urgent care / family practice in Roseburg, Oregon, some who are on the board of CHI-Mercy hospital that is currently overflowing and had a person die waiting for a bed, who are anti mask and Vax, pro herd immunity, and a scourge on our community.
"Douglas County is experiencing the reality of the delta variant, with further viral mutations on the horizon. Mandates of vaccination, without exceptions, and outdoor masking won’t change that. If messaging and actions were designed to divide, they could not be more effective. Opinions expressed in public forums and social media serve as a thermometer of the heat and blaming in our community.
Some have advocated the hospital not admit ill patients who are unvaccinated. Those who have chosen to be vaccinated blame the unvaccinated for immune escape of the variant. It is likely just the opposite. "
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"4. Early outpatient treatment works. At Evergreen Family Medicine, we are aggressive in those stratified to be at risk in this early phase. We believe Regeneron, Ivermectin, anticoagulation, and judicious use of steroids and active monitoring is keeping patients out of the hospital."
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"5. There is little, if any, spread of COVID from asymptomatic persons. Like other viral infections, if you are sick, you should stay home. There is no need to quarantine the asymptomatic healthy."
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"4. Children need to return to school Without masks. Without vaccination. Covid 19 will not go away. Instead, we are transitioning now from a pandemic to endemic status. Children have more chance of dying in a car wreck, unintentional drug overdose, or influence than from Covid. And children rarely spread the virus."
April Ehrlich with JPR News (a NPR affiliate) is looking for current or former patients if you're up for it, ZinWhit.
Re: Spreadnecks: Coronavirus Anti-Maskers, Anti-Vaxxers, Etc.
OK, so they said she sold ~250 at 200$ a pop, that's $50k, not bad for a side gig. Plus the "at least" 10 database entries she sold at 250$ apiece.
I hope they can track down her customers and get them too, also. Especially the ones entered into the state database.
I'll take "13 who are about to lose their job for $1,000, Alex."
13 purchasers have been charged. All currently charged are healthcare professionals.
All 13 of the purchasers charged to date will likely lose the licenses, too.
Prosecutors will charge more in the coming days. I doubt Clifford and Barkley were smart enough to keep purchaser's names and other identifying info off their phones/computers. Esp when they sold on freaking Instagram.
Vance also charged13 hospital, nursing home and medical and nursing school workers with possession of a forged instrument, accusing them of purchasing cards from Clifford. Barkley is accused of entering some of their names in the database.
Re: Spreadnecks: Coronavirus Anti-Maskers, Anti-Vaxxers, Etc.
Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 2:54 pm
by raison de arizona
And all healthcare workers too, for shame!
I'm having a real problem arguing with pro-virus folk out here because they are backed up by a whopping 60% of hospital doctors and nurses in being pro-virus. Not for long though, the big hospital chains are mandating vax so their days are numbered. It will be interesting to see how many people are willing to lose their jobs over it, my guess is not too many.
Re: Spreadnecks: Coronavirus Anti-Maskers, Anti-Vaxxers, Etc.
I'm having a real problem arguing with pro-virus folk out here because they are backed up by a whopping 60% of hospital doctors and nurses in being pro-virus. Not for long though, the big hospital chains are mandating vax so their days are numbered. It will be interesting to see how many people are willing to lose their jobs over it, my guess is not too many.
I'd like to read more about that if possible. Could you provide more info?
Re: Spreadnecks: Coronavirus Anti-Maskers, Anti-Vaxxers, Etc.
I'm having a real problem arguing with pro-virus folk out here because they are backed up by a whopping 60% of hospital doctors and nurses in being pro-virus. Not for long though, the big hospital chains are mandating vax so their days are numbered. It will be interesting to see how many people are willing to lose their jobs over it, my guess is not too many.
I'd like to read more about that if possible. Could you provide more info?
I can't and it might be bullshit, but the number came from two separate pro-vax nurses we know and respect who work at two different hospital chains (Banner and Honor) in addition to various pro-virus folk we know and respect less. I'll see if I can find anything actually documenting that, but I've heard it enough that I believe it to be fairly accurate.
Oh, and I just thought of a third healthcare chain that my sister works for here, she says it is about half and half there, but they have a mandate coming down as well. I hope the hospitals stick to their guns.
Oh wait. I can't document the 50-60%, but I can document the mandates if that is what you are looking for.
Re: Spreadnecks: Coronavirus Anti-Maskers, Anti-Vaxxers, Etc.
Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 4:06 pm
by sugar magnolia
The stupidity just astounds me. They have to use their real names* for the fake cards or they're no good, so they can't hide behind pseudonyms, and they have to have a location on them, so I'm guessing it was pretty east to track down those who bought the bogus cards. $450 plus a criminal charge to evade something free. Makes perfect sense to me.
* The clubs and festivals and such requiring vax cards look at the name on your ID and your vax card to make sure they match.
Re: Spreadnecks: Coronavirus Anti-Maskers, Anti-Vaxxers, Etc.
I'm having a real problem arguing with pro-virus folk out here because they are backed up by a whopping 60% of hospital doctors and nurses in being pro-virus. Not for long though, the big hospital chains are mandating vax so their days are numbered. It will be interesting to see how many people are willing to lose their jobs over it, my guess is not too many.
I'd like to read more about that if possible. Could you provide more info?
I can't and it might be bullshit, but the number came from two separate pro-vax nurses we know and respect who work at two different hospital chains (Banner and Honor) in addition to various pro-virus folk we know and respect less. I'll see if I can find anything actually documenting that, but I've heard it enough that I believe it to be fairly accurate.
Oh, and I just thought of a third healthcare chain that my sister works for here, she says it is about half and half there, but they have a mandate coming down as well. I hope the hospitals stick to their guns.
Oh wait. I can't document the 50-60%, but I can document the mandates if that is what you are looking for.
Among the nation's 50 largest hospitals, the percentage of unvaccinated health care workers appears to be even larger, about 1 in 3. Vaccination rates range from a high of 99% at Houston Methodist Hospital, which was the first in the nation to mandate the shots for its workers, to a low between 30% and 40% at some hospitals in Florida. https://www.webmd.com/vaccines/covid-19 ... al-workers
That article is from June.
Re: Spreadnecks: Coronavirus Anti-Maskers, Anti-Vaxxers, Etc.
Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 4:12 pm
by tek
sugar magnolia wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 4:06 pm
The stupidity just astounds me. They have to use their real names* for the fake cards or they're no good, so they can't hide behind pseudonyms, and they have to have a location on them, so I'm guessing it was pretty east to track down those who bought the bogus cards. $450 plus a criminal charge to evade something free. Makes perfect sense to me.
* The clubs and festivals and such requiring vax cards look at the name on your ID and your vax card to make sure they match.
Reminds me of the time my youngest brother Brian wrote a note "from his mother"
"Please excuse Brain from school today"
Re: Spreadnecks: Coronavirus Anti-Maskers, Anti-Vaxxers, Etc.
Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 4:12 pm
by ZinWhit
Regarding Roseburg, OR doctors Powell, my Twitter DM had a request from an Oregonian journalist. We spoke for an hour.
Re: Spreadnecks: Coronavirus Anti-Maskers, Anti-Vaxxers, Etc.
Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 4:38 pm
by Luke
sugar magnolia wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 4:06 pm
The stupidity just astounds me. They have to use their real names* for the fake cards or they're no good, so they can't hide behind pseudonyms, and they have to have a location on them, so I'm guessing it was pretty east to track down those who bought the bogus cards. $450 plus a criminal charge to evade something free. Makes perfect sense to me.
* The clubs and festivals and such requiring vax cards look at the name on your ID and your vax card to make sure they match.
Totally agree, Sugar.
Re: Spreadnecks: Coronavirus Anti-Maskers, Anti-Vaxxers, Etc.
Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 4:55 pm
by raison de arizona
I believe we established that the last vid there was an ex-Marine having a mental issue/incident, rather than a covidiot/anti-masker. FWIW.
sugar magnolia wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 4:06 pm
The stupidity just astounds me. They have to use their real names* for the fake cards or they're no good, so they can't hide behind pseudonyms, and they have to have a location on them, so I'm guessing it was pretty east to track down those who bought the bogus cards. $450 plus a criminal charge to evade something free. Makes perfect sense to me.
* The clubs and festivals and such requiring vax cards look at the name on your ID and your vax card to make sure they match.
Reminds me of the time my youngest brother Brian wrote a note "from his mother"
"Please excuse Brain from school today"
signed: Epstein's mom.
Re: Spreadnecks: Coronavirus Anti-Maskers, Anti-Vaxxers, Etc.
Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 5:20 pm
by LM K
slq wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 8:12 am
Anti-mask anti-vaccine COVIDIOT family member’s outraged FB post yesterday: “can you believe the [private company] hospital won’t ‘allow’ (yes she put this in quotes) me to have my elective outpatient surgery in September!? Freedumbs!”
This is in Idaho, where people like her have caused the state (yesterday) to report only 4 ICU beds available in the entire state. Also, I think I her surgery is o besity surgery of some kind.
I'm having a real problem arguing with pro-virus folk out here because they are backed up by a whopping 60% of hospital doctors and nurses in being pro-virus. Not for long though, the big hospital chains are mandating vax so their days are numbered. It will be interesting to see how many people are willing to lose their jobs over it, my guess is not too many.
I'd like to read more about that if possible. Could you provide more info?
I can't and it might be bullshit, but the number came from two separate pro-vax nurses we know and respect who work at two different hospital chains (Banner and Honor) in addition to various pro-virus folk we know and respect less. I'll see if I can find anything actually documenting that, but I've heard it enough that I believe it to be fairly accurate.
Oh, and I just thought of a third healthcare chain that my sister works for here, she says it is about half and half there, but they have a mandate coming down as well. I hope the hospitals stick to their guns.
Oh wait. I can't document the 50-60%, but I can document the mandates if that is what you are looking for.
No, it's all good!
It's different for my sister and her colleagues. They work with covid patients. They were some of the first in the country to be vaxed.
My sister was hesitant about the vaccine at first. She's not an antivaxxer. She raised some legit concerns. Lori was on FMLA from Oct-Dec. The vaccine was released about a week before her return.
Lori got vaccinated after her first shift back. She said "this isn't what things were like in the spring, this is so much worse.".
I understand why she was concerned about being vaxed last Dec. This vac had been created and released in record time. Under normal conditions, I'd be hesitant to be first in line. She realized that we can't make choices as if things were normal.
Re: Spreadnecks: Coronavirus Anti-Maskers, Anti-Vaxxers, Etc.
Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 6:06 pm
by raison de arizona
Well known vax denier Joe Rogan caughts the covids. He "threw the kitchen sink at it", I guess he takes it more seriously when he actually gets it. I wonder if this will change his stance that healthy folks don't need the vax.
Re: Spreadnecks: Coronavirus Anti-Maskers, Anti-Vaxxers, Etc.
Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 6:15 pm
by Lani
HONOLULU (HawaiiNewsNow) - A federal judge has delayed indefinitely a hearing on a lawsuit against the vaccinate-or-test mandate for state and county workers. The hearing on whether to block the requirements was scheduled for Sept. 8.
But attorneys for vaccine-resistant first responders dropped an unexpected new filing Friday.
The judge said the new arguments and information violated his orders and should be stricken, but instead he accepted the documents and gave the state until Sept. 20 to respond.
The judge said the new temporary restraining order hearing won’t’ be scheduled until after that.
Under the governor’s mandate, state and county workers must either provide proof they are fully vaccinated against COVID or submit to weekly testing at their own expense.
Meanwhile, 87.6% of about 14,000 state workers report being vaccinated. Damn good percentage! 11 employees have been placed on leave without pay because they failed to file a form stating that they are either testing or have gotten the shot.
Re: Spreadnecks: Coronavirus Anti-Maskers, Anti-Vaxxers, Etc.
Among the nation's 50 largest hospitals, the percentage of unvaccinated health care workers appears to be even larger, about 1 in 3. Vaccination rates range from a high of 99% at Houston Methodist Hospital, which was the first in the nation to mandate the shots for its workers, to a low between 30% and 40% at some hospitals in Florida. https://www.webmd.com/vaccines/covid-19 ... al-workers
That article is from June.
That's so fucking disturbing.
Thankfully all healthcare providers have to be vaxed in Oregon by mid-Oct (but probably later because ... Oregon).
I don't want an unvaxed nurse, doctor or MA near me unless they have a valid medical exemption. Antivaxxers are anti-science. My stance on this is not about covid, it's about ethics.
Re: Spreadnecks: Coronavirus Anti-Maskers, Anti-Vaxxers, Etc.
Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 6:27 pm
by LM K
ZinWhit wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 4:12 pm
Regarding Roseburg, OR doctors Powell, my Twitter DM had a request from an Oregonian journalist. We spoke for an hour.
THANK YOU!
I read Evergreen's bullshit. It's full of blatant lies. The doc blames the vaccines for the evolution of Delta. Delta began in India in Oct, 2020. Not a single vax had been administered outside a clinical setting last Oct.
Re: Spreadnecks: Coronavirus Anti-Maskers, Anti-Vaxxers, Etc.
Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 9:48 pm
by pipistrelle
This nurse appears to have deleted the original video. I picked this particular “stitch” because it shows FREEDOM. Almost the whole video.
slq wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 8:12 am
Anti-mask anti-vaccine COVIDIOT family member’s outraged FB post yesterday: “can you believe the [private company] hospital won’t ‘allow’ (yes she put this in quotes) me to have my elective outpatient surgery in September!? Freedumbs!”
This is in Idaho, where people like her have caused the state (yesterday) to report only 4 ICU beds available in the entire state. Also, I think I her surgery is o besity surgery of some kind.
What would she do if she reacted badly to anesthesia and needed and ICU bed ... and vent?
Narcissism is about right. These days she doesn't think about consequences like that. If it's related to COVID and anything short of "everything is allowed," it's bad.
Re: Spreadnecks: Coronavirus Anti-Maskers, Anti-Vaxxers, Etc.
The first few dozen entries are mainly south of the Mason-Dixon.
Re: Spreadnecks: Coronavirus Anti-Maskers, Anti-Vaxxers, Etc.
Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 10:54 pm
by scirreeve
Rapey Bob (PDX folks know who he is) was in ICU for a week but he is now still in the hospital but in a COVID ward. I hate that this idiot is tying up a hospital bed. He is bitching about his care - fuck him.
Re: Spreadnecks: Coronavirus Anti-Maskers, Anti-Vaxxers, Etc.
Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:32 am
by somerset
orlylicious wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 12:15 am
It would be great to have COVIDIOTS in the title of this topic.
Incredible expose by Time on the scam and fraud of "America's Frontline Doctors", shameful how they've ripped people off, gotten them fired from jobs, and even died from their incompetence. Horrifying that they can get away with this.
Dr. Siyab Panhwar, a cardiology fellow at the University of Tulane: “The anti-vax movement as a whole is one big multi-level marketing scheme.”
More from the Time article, and an old familiar name:
Soon after, the group argued there was a conspiracy to suppress an effective treatment for the pandemic ravaging the globe. “If all Americans had access to hydroxychloroquine, the pandemic would essentially end in about 30 days,” another member of AFLD, a child psychiatrist named Mark McDonald, said on a video picked up by Alex Jones’ NewsWars website. The group soon partnered with a telemedicine site set up by right-wing conspiracy theorist Jerome Corsi to sell prescriptions for the medication, which Trump promoted and said he took as a preventive measure.
As it turned out, promoting fictions about COVID-19 could be profitable. AFLD built a slick website, whose domain was bought by the Tea Party Patriots, and an email list of loyal followers whom they urged to make donations. When Gold was arrested for participating in the Jan. 6 insurrection, emails to supporters requesting their “urgent and generous donations to withstand such aggressive assaults from the ruthless enemies of free speech” raised more than $400,000 for Gold’s legal defense.
In the spring of 2021, the group announced a national RV tour, which sold VIP tickets for a “meet-and-greet” with Gold for $1,000. According to AFLD Telegram channels, they frequently canceled scheduled appearances, leaving people who had taken the day off work or driven for hours in the lurch. “Hundreds of us registered and received no information or cancellation notice,” one disappointed supporter in Cleveland wrote on June 22 when the promised tour did not arrive. AFLD moderators, meanwhile, urged followers that such events could “continue only when everyone donates what they can monthly.”
Freedumbs!”