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qbawl wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 7:11 pm I just read a news article that emphasizes the judge's order is to follow the prescription as written. The issue is the prescription as written says: "3mg tablet 10 (ten) times a day for 21 days." how is that supposed to happen to a sedated and intubated patient?

SuzieC wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 6:49 pm IAAL here. Have no idea what law judge is relying upon to order a hospital to administer an unproven treatment. He doesn't cite anything in his order.

Sequoia32 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 7:30 pm

qbawl wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 7:11 pm I just read a news article that emphasizes the judge's order is to follow the prescription as written. The issue is the prescription as written says: "3mg tablet 10 (ten) times a day for 21 days." how is that supposed to happen to a sedated and intubated patient?

Retired RN here:

Intubated patients have a naso-gastric tube (unless contraindicated by facial injuries/anomalies). That is how they get their nutrition unless their digestive tract is not functioning but that is a whole 'nother issue.

Pills are crushed, suspended in liquid and pushed thru the tube.

qbawl wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 7:11 pm I just read a news article that emphasizes the judge's order is to follow the prescription as written. The issue is the prescription as written says: "3mg tablet 10 (ten) times a day for 21 days." how is that supposed to happen to a sedated and intubated patient?

A 68-year-old woman with COVID-19, who has been in intensive care in an Illinois hospital for a month, started receiving the controversial drug ivermectin (Stromectol) this week after her family sued the hospital to have someone administer it, according to a report in the Chicago Tribune.


On Friday, DuPage County Judge James Orel ruled Fype should be allowed to get the treatment.

Three days later, according to the Daily Herald, the lawyer for the hospital, Joseph Monahan, argued the hospital could not find a hospital-affiliated doctor to administer the ivermectin.The Herald reported the judge told the hospital to "get out of the way" and allow any board-certified doctor to administer the drug. When Fype's doctor was unable to administer it, the legal team found another doctor, Alan Bain, DO, to do it. Monahan said Bain was granted credentials to work at the hospital so he could administer it Monday evening.

In a follow-up hearing on Tuesday, Monahan told Orel that the hospital asked 20 doctors and 19 other health care workers, including nurses and pharmacists, to administer the medication and they all declined, the Herald reported. Orel denied a request from Desareta Fype's lawyer to order the hospital's nurses to administer further doses. The judge also denied a request to hold the hospital in contempt of court. According to the Herald, the judge said at the hearing Tuesday, "Now let's hope the good Lord allows the medication to work."

Suranis wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 7:30 pm If I had a horse I'd advertise pictures of you with the horse for $100. Why the fuck not?

Of course I'd also tell the Shop so the pictures wouldn't work.

Kendra wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 7:15 pm

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Joe Henderson: A cow-deworming drug won’t help anyone combat COVID-19
Joe Henderson August 30, 2021

But the medication Ivermectin is flying off the shelves in Florida because people apparently believe it's safer for humans to use than FDA-approved vaccines. It is not. You’re about to read an “Only In Florida” story for the ages, even by the high bar we set for such things. It started when too many people in our state convinced themselves they know more about medicine than people who studied the topic for decades. You betcha they won’t take an FDA-approved vaccine against COVID-19. But offer them a cow and horse deworming drug called Ivermectin, and they’re all in. They risk becoming deathly sick or just plain dead because their cousin knew a guy whose uncle told him about something he heard on AM-radio talk that the vaccine will plant a microchip in your head to make you believe Anthony Fauci knows something.

Talk show know-it-alls from Fox (of course) like Laura Ingraham and Sean Hannity weighed in with their theories on why the government (read: Joe Biden) doesn’t want you to know about how wonderful Ivermectin can be. Why? Oh, those people don’t need to back up their assertions with facts. Make it loud, scary, and find a villain. Voilà! It’s a formula for rating points. So, now we have folks risk turning themselves into worm’s meat by stampeding to feed stories and clearing the shelves of the drug designed to help large animals avoid worms. Sigh.

Well, these things have consequences, and this time it’s a doozy. According to Agriculture Commissioner Nikki Fried, the drug is sold out in Florida. The patients that really need the treatment — you know, cows and horses — will go without until stores can restock. “Our feedstocks are out,” Fried said. “This is a product that is supposed to be used for animals, and so, of course, when the feedstock is out — whether it’s for cows or for horses — and our industry can’t get them, that’s a problem.” We pause to reflect that Florida is the gift that keeps giving to late-night comedians and caustic wits everywhere. They want to know what we’re smoking down here. There really is nothing funny about this, though. As with most of these things, a shred of research suggested a small — repeat, SMALL — amount of the drug “inhibits the replication of (COVID-19)” in a test tube. One day research may find ways to safely use the drug in the war against the virus, but it’s not this day. Here’s why.

Class, behold a test tube. You can hold it in your hand. Scientists use these tubes to research important things because it helps them learn how to help people stay healthy. Now, class, behold farmer Brown’s cow named Daisy. She’s a plump lass, weighing about 2,000 pounds. The drugs to treat her for worms pack a lot more punch because Daisy weighs a lot more than a test tube. Yep. As the drugs flew off the shelves, people began ingesting stuff designed for a 2,000-pound cow (or horse). Sure enough, many of those folks got sick, and some died. That prompted the Food and Drug Administration to send a mooooving tweet that read: “You are not a horse. You are not a cow. Seriously, y’all. Stop it.” I’ll add this: Seriously, y’all. There are FREE vaccines that will do a much better job of protecting you against the virus. Run (don’t walk) to your local pharmacy or doctor and let the professionals help you live longer and better.” But, alas, I think that idea makes too much sense for the times in which we live.

qbawl wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 7:22 pm

Tiredretiredlawyer wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 7:17 pm Gee, qbawl, it sounds like you just don't want ivermectin to help that poor feller.

Au contraire, I am considering donating a pill crusher (ball peen hammer) and a turkey baster to this nearby hospital.

an “Only In Florida” story for the ages, even by the high bar we set for such things. It started when too many people in our state convinced themselves they know more about medicine than people who studied the topic for decades. You betcha they won’t take an FDA-approved vaccine against COVID-19. But offer them a cow and horse deworming drug called Ivermectin, and they’re all in. They risk becoming deathly sick or just plain dead because their cousin knew a guy whose uncle told him about something he heard on AM-radio talk that the vaccine will plant a microchip in your head to make you believe Anthony Fauci knows something.

filly wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 11:37 am New England Patriots release Cam Newton
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2 ... arterback/

Azastan wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 1:25 pm

filly wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 11:37 am New England Patriots release Cam Newton
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2 ... arterback/

Was he a superspreader? Non-vaxxer?

While Newton said earlier this summer that he didn’t care to share his vaccination status, his absence indicated that he is not fully vaccinated. Fully vaccinated players are only tested once every 14 days, and they don’t face travel restrictions. Personnel who are not fully vaccinated must undergo testing through the NFL’s approved lab every day, and they face travel restrictions.

“The week that Cam Newton missed was the biggest selling point for Mac Jones. He came through big time that week,” Burton said. “I think the vaccination plays a huge role in all of this because you can’t tell whether or not another thing is going to happen that catches the Patriots off guard. And this completely caught the Patriots off guard.”

There were reports that some in the organization were frustrated by Newton’s protocol breach.

WBZ-TV’s Levan Reid also said he believes Newton being unvaccinated factored into the decision to go with Jones.

“I think vaccination played a huge part in this,” said Reid. “That Wednesday was the first day we got a chance to see Mac Jones play with the whole group, take the first team snaps. I think we can all say that was the best we’ve seen him all camp long. He looked like a pro.”

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I've been telling people that Aussies are coping much better and showing more care for others. I may have to stop saying that....

tencats wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 1:34 pm

Cam Newton is assumed to be currently unvaccinated.

Dave from down under wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 1:36 pm They have just been tolerated/coddled more since the greed is good 80’s.

orlylicious wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 2:18 am It's taking a LOT to not just encourage these folks to do it so there are fewer RWNJ voters but just can't.