Fogbow

On MSNBC right now they are calling bullshit on the "my wife did it" story..

bob wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2024 3:45 pm

p0rtia wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2024 10:55 amAnd I want to know what the neighbor's sign actually said.

Thanks, Bob.

I had read those tweets -- Shannon Bream is a right-wing writer, with a connection to Fox. I don't know anything good or bad about her, so I have no doubt that she did talk to Alito. But she gives only what Alito said, and did not interview the neighbor. Since I don't believe a word Alito says without verification, that means I know nothing.

Nicolle Wallace has since reported that there are 6 neighbors on the street, and they all knew about the flag flying, but, as the reportage currently has it, were too afraid of retribution to tell anyone about it. She also referenced, "making a bad neighborhood situation worse." No word about a specific neighbor yet.

Which, Nicolle points out, says nothing about the outrageous behavior of responding to anti-Trump or political expressions by hanging an insurrection flag. Nicolle set it up by saying something like "Why didn't he respond in the usual way when having a squabble with the neighbor by going out in the middle of the night and cutting their rose bushes." Which is one reason I love Nicolle.

Nicolle set it up by saying something like "Why didn't he respond in the usual way when having a squabble with the neighbor by going out in the middle of the night and cutting their rose bushes." Which is one reason I love Nicolle.

Ring doorbells have ruined everything.

Story does not make sense. The whole point of hanging the flag upside down is to indicate a vessel in distress. That's why the Gladsten flag wavers started doing that to show how they were under threat from Obama. How would turning a flag upside down relate to people saying mean things to his wife.

Plus it was outside his house, the Judge would see it out his window.

I wouldn't be surprised if the real story is that He or She hung it upside down by accident, possibly due to being distracted due to all the stuff happening at the time. People noticed because of course they did. Rather than simply admit it, the Alitos made up a story to put themselves in the victim place because victims are good no matter how vile they are.

If my wife hung a flag upside down, there is not a window in my house I could look out of to see it. I would have to go outside and look.

I am not a fan of Justice Alito, but I always assumed that he was an intelligent attorney. Now I read his excuse for flying the flag upside down, and I learn that the man is a moron, who can't think through the consequences of his own story.

Foggy wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2024 9:39 pm I am not a fan of Justice Alito, but I always assumed that he was an intelligent attorney. Now I read his excuse for flying the flag upside down, and I learn that the man is a moron, who can't think through the consequences of his own story.

I never assumed that...

Rolodex wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2024 3:50 pm Ya know what, Mrs. Alito? MYOB.

She hung an American flag upside down for a week or two because someone said Fuck Trump? Good thing she never heard anyone say Let’s Go Brandon. Or is that one ok and doesn’t put the nation in distress?

raison de arizona wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2024 10:53 pm

Rolodex wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2024 3:50 pm Ya know what, Mrs. Alito? MYOB.

She hung an American flag upside down for a week or two because someone said Fuck Trump? Good thing she never heard anyone say Let’s Go Brandon. Or is that one ok and doesn’t put the nation in distress?

I've seen signs in residential neighborhood windows that have the real "Let's Go Brandon" phrase. Classy.

Also, as many have pointed out the local schools were remote due to the pandemic. No one was waiting for busses.

If there even was an objectionable sign. Which I doubt.

I doubt that there was a sign attacking Alito or his wife. If there was an anti-fuckhead sign, I have no problem with it (assuming it wasn't disgusting).

If Mary-beth or whatever her name is had words with the neighbors, so what?

There is nothing on God's green Earth that justifies a stop the steal flag flying at the house of a supreme court justice.

The neighbor stuff is a distraction.

No one's buying the neighbor stuff, or the wife stuff.

More disappointed than surprised at the namby-pamby tone of this NYT article (gift link). https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/17/us/a ... =url-share

A more useful article would have explored the singularity of the Court's freedom from well-established rules that that apply to other judges and hundreds of thousands of government employees, and the collapse of the assumption that the justices can be relied on to behave themselves.

Also, many have pointed out that Roberts and SCOTUS staff have known about this all along. It's not news to them. And Roberts came up with that weak tea "ethics code" or whatever. Can we say yet his is the worst SCOTUS in American history?

chancery wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2024 2:34 pm A more useful article would have explored the singularity of the Court's freedom from well-established rules that that apply to other judges and hundreds of thousands of government employees, and the collapse of the assumption that the justices can be relied on to behave themselves.

Basically every other judge, and anyone who works for any judge, is bound by ethical canons that would cover this. The ignorance/arrogance combination is shocking, but there's no institutional remedy (thanks; Framers).

pipistrelle wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2024 9:31 pm Also, many have pointed out that Roberts and SCOTUS staff have known about this all along. It's not news to them. And Roberts came up with that weak tea "ethics code" or whatever. Can we say yet his is the worst SCOTUS in American history?

Bad as it is they have yet to be as bad as the Taney court, having given us Scott v. Sandford.

Give em time thou...

Frater I*I wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2024 11:24 am

pipistrelle wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2024 9:31 pm Also, many have pointed out that Roberts and SCOTUS staff have known about this all along. It's not news to them. And Roberts came up with that weak tea "ethics code" or whatever. Can we say yet his is the worst SCOTUS in American history?

Bad as it is they have yet to be as bad as the Taney court, having given us Scott v. Sandford.

Give em time thou...

If it were raised again with this SCOTUS...

45 House Dems write a letter to Alito requesting that he recuse from Jan. 6th and 2020 election cases due to the whole upside down flag issue.

The letter: https://big.assets.huffingtonpost.com/a ... ad8161.pdf

Only 45 Democrats with any guts at all. I am disappoint.

Me too! Don't dems realize this MAGAt Justice intends to help destroy democracy for his cult leader. Sheesh.

Golly ...

The New York Times, today:

Another Provocative Flag Was Flown at Another Alito Home
The justice’s beach house displayed an “Appeal to Heaven” flag, a symbol carried on
Jan. 6 and associated with a push for a more Christian-minded government.

Gift link: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/22/us/j ... =url-share

Last summer, two years after an upside-down American flag was flown outside the Virginia home of Justice Samuel A. Alito Jr., another provocative symbol was displayed at his vacation house in New Jersey, according to interviews and photographs.

This time, it was the “Appeal to Heaven” flag, which, like the inverted U.S. flag, was carried by rioters at the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021. Also known as the Pine Tree flag, it dates back to the Revolutionary War, but largely fell into obscurity until recent years and is now a symbol of support for former President Donald J. Trump, for a religious strand of the “Stop the Steal” campaign and for a push to remake American government in Christian terms.

Great, just what we look for in a SCOTUS justice (a push to remake American government in Christian terms.)