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scirreeve wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 2:18 pm

Jerry Mander wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 2:10 pm Good news! The widder Finicum has a new lawyer for her dead-in-the-water wrongful death suit. He’s also representing some of the Jan 6 insurrectionists, appropriately enough.

Send money now!

It matters how you turn Lavoy’s poor choices into cash!

https://fb.watch/7K9K45LefU/

That is the lawyer supposedly in the hospital on a ventilator with COVID. Good choice Jeanette!

Very appropriate -- mostly dead case with mostly dead lawyer. And no Miracle Max in sight!

Aw shucks, going to have to grift enough for a new attorney. Give generously and often.

https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/unrespons ... d=79736173

And Mr. Pierce’s back up is not even a licensed attorney.

At least try to make it look like you’re trying, Jeanette.

Jerry Mander wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:48 pm https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/unrespons ... d=79736173

And Mr. Pierce’s back up is not even a licensed attorney.

At least try to make it look like you’re trying, Jeanette.

Pierce's assistant is not merely an unlicensed attorney, he's committing unauthorized practice of law while out on bail from an indictment for multiple counts of felony financial crimes.

johnpcapitalist wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:55 pm

Jerry Mander wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:48 pm https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/unrespons ... d=79736173

And Mr. Pierce’s back up is not even a licensed attorney.

At least try to make it look like you’re trying, Jeanette.

Pierce's assistant is not merely an unlicensed attorney, he's committing unauthorized practice of law while out on bail from an indictment for multiple counts of felony financial crimes.

Sounds like if Trump had won, he'd be the Secretary of the Treasury.

Gregg wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 5:08 pm

johnpcapitalist wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:55 pm

Jerry Mander wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:48 pm https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/unrespons ... d=79736173

And Mr. Pierce’s back up is not even a licensed attorney.

At least try to make it look like you’re trying, Jeanette.

Pierce's assistant is not merely an unlicensed attorney, he's committing unauthorized practice of law while out on bail from an indictment for multiple counts of felony financial crimes.

Sounds like if Trump had won, he'd be the Secretary of the Treasury.

Naw, I think with credentials like that, he would be both Treasury Secretary and AG.

I'm hoping that the widda payed him cash up front...

Moot point right now. Pisspot is still the attorney of record and Pierce, unsurprisingly, has not entered an appearance.

I am beginning to think Pierce isn't off the grid because of COVID as much as he's off the grid because he accidently woke up in a non-extraditable jurisdiction with all the money his clients raised.

poplove wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 2:46 pm I popped into PACER and got the update on the judge swap. It was part of the case management plan.

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap ... .181.0.pdf

Thanks Poppy. I had seen that entry on CL before but not the doc. IANAL and will probably get some words wrong. Judge Sullivan is a Magistrate Judge and has been handling all the hearings etc. She doesn't make rulings though. She makes findings and recommendations which go to Judge Mosman for approval or not. I think he has always been the Presiding Judge (or whatever it is called). He approved all her findings and recommendations until the last time. He dismissed a charge or 2 that Judge Sullivan had recommended proceed. When I pointed that out to Jeanette on the twitter I was instablocked. Of course she needs to keep the grift going so can't blame her.

Gregg wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 9:17 pm I am beginning to think Pierce isn't off the grid because of COVID as much as he's off the grid because he accidently woke up in a non-extraditable jurisdiction with all the money his clients raised.

Concur. It's at least a possibility, perhaps a likelihood.

I've been keeping an eye on the case because the order on Aug 5 (docket # 180) said:

Plaintiffs have until September 15, 2021, to amend the conspiracy claim, in accordance with this opinion and Judge Sullivan's F. & R., against the remaining State Defendants (the state of Oregon, OSP, and Governor Brown).

So I'm assuming the widder's fabulous new lawyer needs to file something by the 15th or the case gets tossed.

I’m betting that after her case is fully tossed, the widder Finicum will post a video telling her fan club that she’s set up a GoFundMe for her appeal. She’ll be stringing the rubes along for years flogging that dead horse.

And she’s STILL claiming Lavoy was unarmed.

Liar.

Yabut, Shawna and the rest of them don't have two nickels to rub together, so suing them would cost her and get her nothing.

Every time I see this pop up, my mind seems to automatically change the title to "Jarndyce v Jarndyce"......

I may be wrong but I think Shawna and the Bundy’s (especially Ammon) have more assets than their public faces would suggest. I remember Shawna, and her husband, being involved in owning a number of properties, and Ammon has his involvement in a number of companies. Even so, there’s no way Dorthea (Jeanette) would point the finger at such celebrated poot dignitaries as to do so would have severe consequences for her, probably never ending, grift. (I did initially have some sympathy for the loss of her husband but the persistent lying soon corrected that)

Docket item 182: NOTICE OF WITHDRAWAL OF WILLIAM E. WEINER AS COUNSEL FOR DEFENDANTS DANIEL P. LOVE AND SALVATORE LAURO

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/62 ... f-america/

Thanks Poppy - I am confused though. I thought they had already been dropped as defendants. Looks like I was wrong.

They were terminated as defendants a long time back but I assume they are retaining representation to defend their interests during the remainder of the case and any future appeal. IANAL but it would seem logical to not be completely separate until the case is not just merely dead but really most sincerely dead.

Docket item 183 Sep 10, 2021 Extension of Time Attachment

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap ... .183.0.pdf

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap ... .183.1.pdf

The attachment is quite interesting.

"Interesting" doesn't quite do it justice.

Having spent the time to read yesterday's motion for an extension, and the attachment, I’m going to pick a tiny nit.

Pierce signed the motion with the notation “PHV forthcoming.” By signing the motion Pierce entered his appearance, Local Rule 83-1, and since he isn’t admitted in the District of Oregon, he violated Local Rule 83-1(a) and “is guilty of a contempt” under Local Rule 83-1(d).*

Lawyers who expect to be, but are not yet, admitted to a court frequently put their names on court papers before entry of an order admitting them to practice. When this is proper, when it’s improper but tolerated, and when it’s improper and the court will take notice is something of a muddle, and of course depends on the court involved and the mood of the judge. See generally King v. Whitmer.

The rules for pro hac vice admission are similar almost everywhere but surprisingly and infuriatingly varied in their details,** and the process sometimes take longer than convenient. Some courts, for example, require a sponsor’s signature or an authenticated original certificate of good standing, which can’t always be secured in a hurry. At the outset of a case, particularly a case seeking expedited relief, a lawyer in charge of a litigation will sometimes deliberately bend a local rule by signing the complaint, in order publicly to take responsibility for its contents under Rule 11.*** I’ve done that, but also got the pro hac vice motion on file as quickly as possible.

However, the District of Oregon’s sample motion for admission pro hac vice is straightforward, short, and doesn’t require any exhibits. https://ord.uscourts.gov/index.php/comp ... temid=1581
Pierce should have filed it weeks ago. There doesn’t seem to be any good reason why Pierce signed the motion for an extension instead of submitting an affidavit in support, which would have been the right thing to do.

I doubt that the court will care.

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* It seems improper for a contempt to be automatic and mandatory, and I doubt that it would be in practice.
** For instance, in the District of Michigan, there is no admission pro hac vice; full admission is available to lawyers from any state and simple to obtain. See King v. Whitmer.
*** Compare the disgraceful attempts to shirk responsibility by plaintiffs’ counsel in King v. Whitmer.

Update: Two short letters agreeing to a 30 day extension. One from Harney Co and the other from State of Oregon. Philpot has medical issues it seims.

Docket item 185 Sep 13, 2021 Response to Motion

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap ... .185.0.pdf

Docket Item 186 Sep 14, 2021 Response to Motion

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap ... 2.186.0.pd

poplove wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 2:09 am Update: Two short letters agreeing to a 30 day extension. One from Harney Co and the other from State of Oregon. Philpot has medical issues it seims.

Docket item 185 Sep 13, 2021 Response to Motion

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap ... .185.0.pdf

Docket Item 186 Sep 14, 2021 Response to Motion

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap ... 2.186.0.pd

Thanks Poppy (and also for the Joshy stuff). I think it is Mrs. Philpoot that has the medical issues if I am reading the stuff correctly. Also too, your second link doesn't work for me for some reason. Here it is.
https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/62 ... f-america/

scirreeve wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 2:43 am

poplove wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 2:09 am Update: Two short letters agreeing to a 30 day extension. One from Harney Co and the other from State of Oregon. Philpot has medical issues it seims.

Docket item 185 Sep 13, 2021 Response to Motion

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap ... .185.0.pdf

Docket Item 186 Sep 14, 2021 Response to Motion

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap ... 2.186.0.pd

Thanks Poppy (and also for the Joshy stuff). I think it is Mrs. Philpoot that has the medical issues if I am reading the stuff correctly. Also too, your second link doesn't work for me for some reason. Here it is.
https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/62 ... f-america/

Hey, thanks for the new link. I usually test links before I post but I didn't this time because I was lazy. Also, my CL links come up a little different than yours because I'm usually logged into my account.