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Foggy wrote: ↑Fri May 19, 2023 9:14 am I think Biden should just declare the debt ceiling unconstitutional and we're paying our debts like every other civilized country, and tell them to sue if they don't like it. Get 'em, Unca Joe!

Trump Admin probes into Hillary Clinton’s conduct ended without finding any criminal wrongdoing

The Benghazi probe—which McCarthy himself admitted sought to damage her politically—found no wrongdoing

None.

How many times can one woman be exonerated before they leave her alone?

Byron Donalds wants to open a congressional investigation into [checks notes] ... Hillary Clinton

What the Twenty-Seventh Amendment Says
"No law, varying the compensation for the services of the Senators and Representatives, shall take effect, until an election of Representatives shall have intervened."

Gregg wrote: ↑Thu May 18, 2023 10:11 pm

RTH10260 wrote: ↑Thu May 18, 2023 4:07 pm tsk tsk tsk --- "withhold" reads like the get it once the debit limit is raised --- it ought to read they will forfeit the salary.

The Constitution very explicitly forbids withholding the pay of Congress or Federal Judges. If the US defaults, they are likely the only ones who will get paid.

I was wrong about that, it applies only to Judges...

Article III, Section 1:

The judicial Power of the United States, shall be vested in one supreme Court, and in such inferior Courts as the Congress may from time to time ordain and establish. The Judges, both of the supreme and inferior Courts, shall hold their Offices during good Behaviour, and shall, at stated Times, receive for their Services, a Compensation, which shall not be diminished during their Continuance in Office.

US debt ceiling talks ‘productive’ as Biden and McCarthy to meet 10 days from deadline
A Sunday night phone call between the president and Republican House speaker was reported to have struck a more positive tone

Reuters
Mon 22 May 2023 00.46 BST

US president Joe Biden and House Republican speaker Kevin McCarthy have held a “productive” phone call on the continued impasse over the debt ceiling and promised to meet on Monday after Biden returned to Washington.

McCarthy, speaking to reporters after the call, said there were positive discussions on solving the crisis and that staff-level talks were set to resume later on Sunday.

Asked if he was more hopeful after talking to the president, McCarthy said: “Our teams are talking today and we’re … meeting tomorrow. That’s better than it was earlier. So, yes.”

Biden, who arrived back at the White House late on Sunday evening after his trip to Japan, said the call with McCarthy had gone well. “We’ll talk tomorrow,” he said.

Speaking from the G7 summit in Japan on Sunday, Biden said he would be willing to cut spending together with tax adjustments to reach a deal, but the latest offer from Republicans on the ceiling was “unacceptable.”



https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... m-deadline

Joseph Zeballos-Roig @josephzeballos wrote: Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-FL) telling me the quiet part out loud on how McCarthy is maneuvering through debt limit talks:

“I believe the one-person motion to vacate has given us the best version of speaker McCarthy and I think he's doing a good job.”

More from Gaetz, who rejects any debt limit compromise with the White House: “I think my conservative colleagues for the most part support Limit, Save, Grow, & they don't feel like we should negotiate with our hostage.”

Default would almost certainly throw US into recession

A lot of people live better without having a job, than with having a job. I’ve had it where you have people and you want to hire them, but they can’t take the job for a period of nine months because they’re doing better now than they would with a job.”
“You know what solves it? When the economy crashes, when the country goes to total hell, and everything is a disaster, then you’ll have riots to go back to where we used to be, when we were great.”

He had 4 years to try and hold people accountable. He came up with nothing except humiliating losses and a report. But you guys keep hyping old John and hope that someday people in 2023 might suddenly regain interest in the 2016 election. Good luck.

Your regular reminder that the Republican Speaker of the House and the Republican Chair of the House Judiciary Committee both ignored congressional subpoenas.

U.S. Rep. Chris Stewart plans to resign his seat in Congress, possibly as soon as this week.

Multiple sources have confirmed to The Salt Lake Tribune that Stewart announced his plan to resign, citing ongoing health issues with his wife. It was unclear what those health issues may be.

First elected by Utahns in 2012, Stewart is serving his 6th term in Congress. In 2022, he won reelection over Democrat Nick Mitchell by over 30 percentage points.

“It is inescapable to me. It has to be done,” said House Freedom Caucus member Rep. Dan Bishop.

Conservative angst over the debt deal has triggered Kevin McCarthy’s biggest fear — threats to oust him from the speakership.

Rep. Dan Bishop (R-N.C.) on Tuesday became the first House conservative to explicitly state he is considering a push to oust McCarthy over his recent deal with President Joe Biden.

“Absolutely,” Bishop told POLITICO in an interview, when asked about using the tool to force out a sitting speaker. “It is inescapable to me. It has to be done.”

The procedure Bishop is considering would essentially trigger a vote of no confidence against McCarthy — a tool that’s been weaponized by the conservative House Freedom Caucus against the past two speakers in attempts to keep party leaders from leaning too much towards the center.

It would only take one House member to decide to trigger the vote, which would then require a simple majority to oust the speaker.

It’s not clear yet if Bishop will go ahead with his threat: He noted he wants support from other colleagues before he takes such a move.

“I don’t make single decisions like that alone. And so it depends on what the members who have courage” also do, he said.

During a press conference hosted mainly by members of the House Freedom Caucus on Tuesday, members were asked who believed ousting McCarthy was on the table — only Bishop raised his hand.

But privately, others echoed his thinking. Another Freedom Caucus member, speaking on the condition of anonymity, said an attempt to oust McCarthy is an option.

Slim Cognito wrote: ↑Tue May 30, 2023 5:40 pm I'm guessing Dems will not vote to oust McCarthy in favor of an even wackier asshat, and probably not enough Rs to make a simple majority. Am I wrong?

But if McCarthy is ousted, are we back to the same fight, 14+ votes to get a new person?

Republican Ralph Norman is complaining that he can't read the 99 page bill to raise the debt ceiling in 72 hours.

Meanwhile, the Trump tax scam passed by Republicans was a 500-page bill that received a vote within HOURS the same night it was presented to Congress. It was so hastily written and voted on, that it even had handwritten additions to the bill scribbled into the margins.