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Posted: **Wed Aug 30, 2023 11:40 am**

Grumpy Git wrote: ↑Wed Aug 30, 2023 11:34 am Pay up Rudy!

https://twitter.com/AnnaBower/status/16 ... 7788355640

How is going to pay it? He couldn't even pay his phone bill. $$

Posted: **Wed Aug 30, 2023 11:59 am**

Roodles is probably on the phone with Alex Jones' bankruptcy lawyer right now.

Full Memorandum Opinion (57 pages): https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap ... 0.94.0.pdf

Posted: **Wed Aug 30, 2023 12:47 pm**

neonzx wrote: ↑Wed Aug 30, 2023 11:40 am
Grumpy Git wrote: ↑Wed Aug 30, 2023 11:34 am Pay up Rudy!

https://twitter.com/AnnaBower/status/16 ... 7788355640
How is going to pay it? He couldn't even pay his phone bill. $$

I find it hard to believe that a person of his wealth and position has pissed it all away, and doesn't have some funds stashed away offshore.

Posted: **Wed Aug 30, 2023 1:03 pm**

Can they sneak a lien on his Manhattan apartment he recently put up for sale?

Posted: **Wed Aug 30, 2023 3:15 pm**

So ya gotta wonder, how bad is the incriminating evidence that Rudy wouldn’t turn over? Is it so bad he would rather take a defamation conviction in lieu of producing it?

Posted: **Wed Aug 30, 2023 9:40 pm**

Greatgrey wrote: ↑Wed Aug 30, 2023 3:15 pm So ya gotta wonder, how bad is the incriminating evidence that Rudy wouldn’t turn over? Is it so bad he would rather take a defamation conviction in lieu of producing it?

Yeah, that discovery material must be … not good, if you’re Giuliani.

But simply amazeballs to me about Howell allowing no trial. I assume that is appealable but of course, IANAL. Have you ever heard of another case like that?

Posted: **Wed Aug 30, 2023 11:28 pm**

NewMexGirl wrote: ↑Wed Aug 30, 2023 9:40 pm
Greatgrey wrote: ↑Wed Aug 30, 2023 3:15 pm So ya gotta wonder, how bad is the incriminating evidence that Rudy wouldn’t turn over? Is it so bad he would rather take a defamation conviction in lieu of producing it?
Yeah, that discovery material must be … not good, if you’re Giuliani.

But simply amazeballs to me about Howell allowing no trial. I assume that is appealable but of course, IANAL. Have you ever heard of another case like that?

Yes, in same or similar circumstances, I can recall cases where default judgment has occurred. In fact, I read a court hearing only a couple of weeks ago where that was the case and it too was due to discovery abuses. The defendant had been warned/told many times prior to comply and simply did not.

Posted: **Thu Aug 31, 2023 12:24 am**

Thanks for answering my question, Realist.

Posted: **Thu Aug 31, 2023 3:48 am**

The Alex Jones defamation case in Connecticut, re the Sandy Hook school shooting, was defaulted for failing to comply with discovery requirements.

Posted: **Thu Aug 31, 2023 8:01 am**

Yeah, in the jargon, they separate liability from damages, and rule that you can't contest liability because of discovery abuses. It's actually relatively uncommon, but it happens. Didn't it happen to GIL once, too also?

Posted: **Thu Aug 31, 2023 12:26 pm**

Thanks for he reminder of Alex Jones. There are so many dirty, rotten, right wing scoundrels, I lose track.

One enjoys seeing Giuliani go down hard, but let’s face it, that discovery material must be pretty hot stuff and I, for one, want to see it.

Posted: **Thu Aug 31, 2023 5:53 pm**

WaPo freebie on what Giuliani might be hiding. No warranties express or implied.

https://wapo.st/45SGg6Y

Posted: **Thu Sep 07, 2023 11:08 am**

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/09/0 ... n-00114307

In December 2020, an adviser to Rudy Giuliani circulated a draft email addressed to the White House seeking “provisional” security clearances for the former mayor and members of his team as part of their work to keep Donald Trump in power.

The adviser, Katherine Friess, also helped Giuliani woo potential donors to finance Trump’s effort to reverse the results of the election. She helped draft a “strategic communications plan” for a final push to keep Trump in office, a document that became a focus for Jan. 6 investigators and that called for placing paid ads on radio and TV alleging widespread voter fraud. At the same time, Friess warned other Trump aides that their claims about dead people voting in Georgia were weak — but Trump continued to trumpet those claims anyway.

More recently, two Georgia election workers sought to depose Friess in a defamation lawsuit against Giuliani. Over the course of four months, they looked for her at “six different addresses,” contacted attorneys who had represented her in other cases, and emailed her at five email accounts she has used.

Though subpoenas must typically be served in person, U.S. District Court Judge Beryl Howell authorized the plaintiffs, Ruby Freeman and Shaye Moss, to serve the subpoena on Friess via “alternative” methods, including via email and all of her known addresses, as well as to Mansolillo. But they still struck out.

“At least one third-party, Katherine Friess … has vanished,” Freeman and Moss’ attorneys wrote last month. “Despite months of efforts, including extensive investigation and an order from this Court authorizing Plaintiffs to serve Katherine Friess by alternative service … Ms. Friess has never responded to Plaintiffs’ subpoenas nor provided documentary evidence, and Defendant Giuliani has declined to say where she might be.”

Lots moar at the link.

Posted: **Thu Sep 07, 2023 12:09 pm**

Vanished? Shirley she is in a witless protection program run by FBI and CIA. Just check the Walmart tunnel system

Posted: **Thu Sep 07, 2023 12:20 pm**

Perhaps she's defected to Bolivia. You get a lot more for your money in Bolivia, I checked on it.

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Posted: **Thu Sep 07, 2023 12:59 pm**

Other lost people were located on the Appalachian Trail

Posted: **Thu Sep 07, 2023 4:31 pm**

She's hiding out in Magadonia.

Posted: **Thu Sep 07, 2023 5:59 pm**

Whats the exchange rate for Vietnamese Dong in Magadonia?

Posted: **Thu Sep 07, 2023 7:16 pm**

Just heard on CNN the big fundraiser for Roodles is tonight at Bedminster. More info on CNN after the break.

Posted: **Thu Sep 07, 2023 7:59 pm**

Kendra wrote: ↑Thu Sep 07, 2023 7:16 pm Just heard on CNN the big fundraiser for Roodles is tonight at Bedminster. More info on CNN after the break.

$100k/plate. Gulp.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/07/politics ... bedminster

Posted: **Thu Sep 07, 2023 8:02 pm**

raison de arizona wrote: ↑Thu Sep 07, 2023 7:59 pm
Kendra wrote: ↑Thu Sep 07, 2023 7:16 pm Just heard on CNN the big fundraiser for Roodles is tonight at Bedminster. More info on CNN after the break.
$100k/plate. Gulp.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/07/politics ... bedminster

Yeah. Wonder how much tfg will take off the top to cover food, drinks and whatever else he can think of.

Posted: **Thu Sep 07, 2023 8:15 pm**

Kendra wrote: ↑Thu Sep 07, 2023 8:02 pm
raison de arizona wrote: ↑Thu Sep 07, 2023 7:59 pm
Kendra wrote: ↑Thu Sep 07, 2023 7:16 pm Just heard on CNN the big fundraiser for Roodles is tonight at Bedminster. More info on CNN after the break.
$100k/plate. Gulp.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/07/politics ... bedminster
Yeah. Wonder how much tfg will take off the top to cover food, drinks and whatever else he can think of.

tfg won't pay his legal bills to Giuliani, but he will hold a fundraiser for him. And grift off it.

Posted: **Thu Sep 07, 2023 8:21 pm**

After all this grifting and throwing people under the bus, I can't figure out why people still stick with him

Posted: **Thu Sep 07, 2023 8:27 pm**

Kendra wrote: ↑Thu Sep 07, 2023 8:21 pm After all this grifting and throwing people under the bus, I can't figure out why people still stick with him

As an avenue to their own power and grift....

Posted: **Thu Sep 07, 2023 8:29 pm**

Kendra wrote: ↑Thu Sep 07, 2023 8:02 pm
raison de arizona wrote: ↑Thu Sep 07, 2023 7:59 pm
Kendra wrote: ↑Thu Sep 07, 2023 7:16 pm Just heard on CNN the big fundraiser for Roodles is tonight at Bedminster. More info on CNN after the break.
$100k/plate. Gulp.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/07/politics ... bedminster
Yeah. Wonder how much tfg will take off the top to cover food, drinks and whatever else he can think of.

Donnie will take it all