Fogbow

A veterinarian.

And her 8 year old daughter saw Mom and two cops murder each other.

I am horrify.

Foggy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 8:36 am A veterinarian.

I await the toxicology report on Amy Anderson.

RTH10260 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 8:18 am shooting prevention

Relatives of Aldrich’s grandparents have said they gave Aldrich about $30,000 to buy a 3-D printer that they said he used to make gun parts.

I had missed this about Aldrich. Economic anxiety indeed.

That, literally, could not happen anywhere but this country.

neonzx wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 9:35 am

Foggy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 8:36 am A veterinarian.

I await the toxicology report on Amy Anderson.

Reports indicate a complete mental breakdown. She had fled her home in Ocean Springs with her daughter and 3 dogs before checking into the Motel 6 in the Bay (about 40 miles) and was reportedly acting weird for the last few days. The officers spoke with her for almost an hour, getting her statement and asking about the white pick-up. It wasn't until she loaded the car to leave that they called CPS. The Sgt was still speaking to her at the door to her vehicle when she shot him.

Her ex-husband is in prison for molesting one of their children.

sugar magnolia wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 11:44 am

neonzx wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 9:35 am

Foggy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 8:36 am A veterinarian.

I await the toxicology report on Amy Anderson.

Reports indicate a complete mental breakdown. She had fled her home in Ocean Springs with her daughter and 3 dogs before checking into the Motel 6 in the Bay (about 40 miles) and was reportedly acting weird for the last few days. The officers spoke with her for almost an hour, getting her statement and asking about the white pick-up. It wasn't until she loaded the car to leave that they called CPS. The Sgt was still speaking to her at the door to her vehicle when she shot him.

Her ex-husband is in prison for molesting one of their children.

OH f83k, it's sadness all around.

When I read the responding officer spent 40 minutes on the call before it went sideways it sounded like it was more complicated.

neonzx wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 11:48 am

sugar magnolia wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 11:44 am

neonzx wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 9:35 am
I await the toxicology report on Amy Anderson.

Reports indicate a complete mental breakdown. She had fled her home in Ocean Springs with her daughter and 3 dogs before checking into the Motel 6 in the Bay (about 40 miles) and was reportedly acting weird for the last few days. The officers spoke with her for almost an hour, getting her statement and asking about the white pick-up. It wasn't until she loaded the car to leave that they called CPS. The Sgt was still speaking to her at the door to her vehicle when she shot him.

Her ex-husband is in prison for molesting one of their children.

OH f83k, it's sadness all around.

Yes it is. But probably not drug related.

I missed that story (there are too many stories in this thread...).

https://www.wlbt.com/2022/12/16/woman-w ... s-now-say/

Anderson had three children. The older two were with their father. The eight-year-old was still with her mother because she has a different father.

Just a personal anecdote: I’ve known 2 female vets socially. Both of them were involved with bikers, pretty rough dudes. Doesn’t sound like this lady had great judgement in men either.

sugar magnolia wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 11:44 am Her ex-husband is in prison for molesting one of their children.

Oh no. Without any evidence at all, I suspect the victim was the 8 year old. She was the only one with mom at the Motel 6, yesno?

And yes, that can definitely cause a mental break. I don't have to tell you ladies how you would feel if your husband molested your daughter. You feel like you didn't protect her. You blame yourself. I handled those cases in court and talked to the moms. Molestation is a nightmare in more ways than most people can imagine.

And if the 8 year old was the victim before, now look at what happened to her. Her mom was just trying to protect her, but she went crazy and now she's gone.

And nobody is going to jail. She saw three people shot to death, and all anybody can say is it's a terrible tragedy. Nobody is going to jail, and I hope to god they don't give her to the molester (but it's Mississippi, so who knows), and with any luck she finds some decent relatives who can help her with a lifetime of PTSD.

What a tragic story. I am even worse than horrify now.

Foggy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 1:00 pm

sugar magnolia wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 11:44 am Her ex-husband is in prison for molesting one of their children.

Oh no. Without any evidence at all, I suspect the victim was the 8 year old. She was the only one with mom at the Motel 6, yesno?

No. Whichever child was molested by the father in prison is one of the two older ones from the other sperm donor, not the 8 year olds father. But this does suggest Amy has poor choice in men.

neonzx wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 1:09 pm
No. Whichever child was molested by the father in prison is one of the two older ones from the other sperm donor, not the 8 year olds father. But this does suggest Amy has poor choice in men.

Why do you say that?

sugar magnolia wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 1:26 pm

neonzx wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 1:09 pm
No. Whichever child was molested by the father in prison is one of the two older ones from the other sperm donor, not the 8 year olds father. But this does suggest Amy has poor choice in men.

Why do you say that?

Yes, there's no way to know that. There are people who present well and seem very normal who turn out to be not so normal. That's not a choice, but being a victim of deception/deceptiveness. Hanging out with known-to-be-rough bikers is a choice.

Phoenix520 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 12:58 pm Just a personal anecdote: I’ve known 2 female vets socially. Both of them were involved with bikers, pretty rough dudes. Doesn’t sound like this lady had great judgement in men either.

Lila's vet is female. I think the practice has 4 female vets, but an occasional male comes in as a locum. I don't know if they hang around bikers or not, but they are excellent vets.

pipistrelle wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 2:31 pm

sugar magnolia wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 1:26 pm

neonzx wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 1:09 pm
No. Whichever child was molested by the father in prison is one of the two older ones from the other sperm donor, not the 8 year olds father. But this does suggest Amy has poor choice in men.

Why do you say that?

Yes, there's no way to know that. There are people who present well and seem very normal who turn out to be not so normal. That's not a choice, but being a victim of deception/deceptiveness. Hanging out with known-to-be-rough bikers is a choice.

I was more wondering why he said it was the older daughter and not the younger?

sugar magnolia wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 5:43 pm

pipistrelle wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 2:31 pm

sugar magnolia wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 1:26 pm
Why do you say that?

Yes, there's no way to know that. There are people who present well and seem very normal who turn out to be not so normal. That's not a choice, but being a victim of deception/deceptiveness. Hanging out with known-to-be-rough bikers is a choice.

I was more wondering why he said it was the older daughter and not the younger?

Yeah, I’m confused by this quote: https://thefogbow.com/forum/viewtopic.p ... 11#p160428

pipistrelle wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 5:46 pm

sugar magnolia wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 5:43 pm

pipistrelle wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 2:31 pm
Yes, there's no way to know that. There are people who present well and seem very normal who turn out to be not so normal. That's not a choice, but being a victim of deception/deceptiveness. Hanging out with known-to-be-rough bikers is a choice.

I was more wondering why he said it was the older daughter and not the younger?

Yeah, I’m confused by this quote: https://thefogbow.com/forum/viewtopic.p ... 11#p160428

She has 2 kids by her first husband, a girl and a boy. They are/were with their father. She has one child, the little girl in question, with the child molester. The child molester also has a son by his first wife, and at one point had full custody of him.

Keith, all my vets in quite a while have been lady vets. At our current clinic, we have dr Jim and his wife, vets, and their niece just joined the practice. I don’t think there’s anything to lady vets and their men choices - except for the ones I knew in my misspent youth.

But this one seemed sorely lacking in judgement.

sugar magnolia wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 5:43 pm
I was more wondering why he said it was the older daughter and not the younger?

My impulse was it would have been the older daughter. If he is already serving a prison term, not county lockup awaiting trial.. which would have been long unless he pleaded guilty.

But I do not have access to open records there because.. not Florida.

neonzx wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 6:31 pm

sugar magnolia wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 5:43 pm
I was more wondering why he said it was the older daughter and not the younger?

My impulse was it would have been the older daughter. If he is already serving a prison term, not county lockup awaiting trial.. which would have been long unless he pleaded guilty.

But I do not have access to open records there because.. not Florida.

He pled guilty in Feb of 2018 and was sentenced. The incident(s) happened in Mar of 2017 and he was indicted in Aug of 2017.

And if it was only your "impulse" then why phrase it as an absolute fact?

sugar magnolia wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 8:40 pm

neonzx wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 6:31 pm

sugar magnolia wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 5:43 pm
I was more wondering why he said it was the older daughter and not the younger?

My impulse was it would have been the older daughter. If he is already serving a prison term, not county lockup awaiting trial.. which would have been long unless he pleaded guilty.

But I do not have access to open records there because.. not Florida.

He pled guilty in Feb of 2018 and was sentenced. The incident(s) happened in Mar of 2017 and he was indicted in Aug of 2017.

And if it was only your "impulse" then why phrase it as an absolute fact?

I did not phrase as absolute fact. And accepting I responded on "impulse" should speak to that? Officer?

What a tragic mess. Not much more I can say.

neonzx wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 8:44 pm I did not phrase as absolute fact. And accepting I responded on "impulse" should speak to that? Officer?

Actually, you did.
https://thefogbow.com/forum/viewtopic.p ... 78#p160436

2-year-old critically injured after shooting self in leg

Dec. 16—BLUEFIELD, W.Va. — A 2-year-old boy was critically injured Thursday night when he shot himself in the leg with a handgun, police officials said Friday.

The incident occurred around 8 p.m. at a residence on Reese Street in Bluefield, Detective-Lieutenant Kenny Adams, with the Bluefield Police Department, said.

Adams said the firearm belonged to the boyfriend of the mother. He was not at the home when the incident occurred.

"He left the gun in the bedroom where the kids were playing," Adams said. "He was not home. Mom was the only one there."

Adams said the toddler shot himself in the upper leg with the .40 caliber handgun. "The hollow-point bullet went through his thigh."

"He lost a substantial amount of blood," Adams said. "A tourniquet was applied to stop the bleeding."

Two other children were in the house at the time of the shooting, a 6-year-old and a 4-year-old, Adams said.

"The other kids were there and witnessed the incident," he said.

"There were other guns around the house as well," Adams said.

https://news.yahoo.com/2-old-critically ... 00638.html

American parents of small children

Remember it is your 2A duty to ensure your child handles loaded firearms from birth till death.

In a similar vein, please ensure all electric saws, especially chain saws, etc are left plugged in (or batteries charged), for children to play with.

What doesn’t kill builds character.