Fogbow

RTH10260 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30, 2022 3:14 pm

FT above wrote:The warning from Brussels came in a video call between Musk and Thierry Breton, the EU’s commissioner in charge of implementing the bloc’s digital rules, according to people with knowledge of the conversation.

Breton told Musk that Twitter must adhere to a checklist of rules, including ditching an “arbitrary” approach to reinstating banned users, pursuing disinformation “aggressively” and agreeing to an “extensive independent audit” of the platform by next year.

Musk was warned that unless he stuck to those rules Twitter risked infringing the EU’s new Digital Services Act, a new law that sets the global standard for how Big Tech must police content on the internet. Breton reiterated Twitter could face a Europe-wide ban or fines of up to 6 per cent of global turnover if it breached the law.

Gregg wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30, 2022 7:38 pm

raison de arizona wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30, 2022 2:02 pm Poor Elon, Apple App Store doesn't want him, the EU doesn't want him. What's next? Google Play?

Apple is not doing anything more than Google, he just picked a fight with Apple for his own reasons.

Elon Musk says Apple threatened to remove Twitter from App Store

Gregg wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30, 2022 7:38 pm Apple is not doing anything more than Google, he just picked a fight with Apple for his own reasons.

Elon Musk ‘resolves’ Apple row over ‘removal of Twitter from iPhone store’
After chat with Tim Cook the tycoon admits misunderstanding and Apple had ‘never considered removing platform’

Dan Milmo Global technology editor
Thu 1 Dec 2022 09.06 GMT

Elon Musk has said he has “resolved” a misunderstanding with Apple over his claim that Twitter was being threatened with removal from the iPhone maker’s app store.

The new Twitter owner tweeted on Wednesday that he had had a “good conversation” with Apple CEO Tim Cook and that Apple had “never considered” removing the social media platform from its app store.



https://www.theguardian.com/technology/ ... hone-store

RTH10260 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 11:40 am I guess Aplle does not threaten to remove apps in general, they would just have removed the in-app purchasing option. Getting the bluebird tag would have been more difficult. Especially when all your app developers have been kicked off their job.

Phoenix520 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 12:30 pm Do tech bros hate Apple because it took them so long to release source code to developers while MS did it right away?

Phoenix520 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 12:30 pm Do tech bros hate Apple because it took them so long to release source code to developers while MS did it right away?

Gregg wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30, 2022 7:38 pm

raison de arizona wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30, 2022 2:02 pm Poor Elon, Apple App Store doesn't want him, the EU doesn't want him. What's next? Google Play?

Apple is not doing anything more than Google, he just picked a fight with Apple for his own reasons.

New Turtle wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 1:18 pm

Phoenix520 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 12:30 pm Do tech bros hate Apple because it took them so long to release source code to developers while MS did it right away?

This was maybe 10 years ago, but I was on a project in school where I built an android app and painlessly got it onto the app market, what is now Google Play. Eventually they wanted an iPhone version. To make that happen, first we found an iMac and commandeered it for our project. Next we had to buy a subscription for the apple developer account. To actually build the app, we had to install their proprietary develoer tools that handle the security certificates, etc., which also required an OS upgrade. So basically (at least in those days) if you wanted to develop iOS apps, Apple wanted you to use their hardware and software from top to bottom. They had these stats that showed 90% of their users and developers were using the latest versions of whatever, but that was because they basically force people to upgrade to their latest and greatest.

For a while I had considered building a "hackintosh" which is a Mac running inside a PC-based system, mainly to get around paying for the developer account because it was a hassle to do it through university channels. In the end, we just got the developer account because it was easier.

Phoenix520 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 1:24 pm IANATB,(in my time I might have been considered a tech something, as a network admin) but…

Apple STILL is relatively hack-free, virus-free, drama- free. Certainly more expensive but call me crazy, not letting everyone play with your code was the right call. I haven’t had a PC since 1986.

Akiva Cohen
@AkivaMCohen
So here's the thing. You can only violate people's legal rights and your own word so far before they lawyer up and come after you.

I really do hope Musk changes his mind and does the right thing - the employees deserve that. But it'll be fun as hell if he doesn't.

Elliot Silverman
@ESilverman80
2h
Replying to
@AkivaMCohen
Akiva,
Speaking as someone who practiced law for 42 years, most of that time doing commercial litigation, this is the single best demand letter I have ever seen.

Phoenix520 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 02, 2022 1:13 am I didn’t realize that Akiva wrote that until I got to the end. It is a great letter: Velvet gloves holding a cocked baseball bat.

Kanye West suspended from Twitter after posting swastika inside Star of David
Elon Musk intervenes after rapper posted image hours after airing antisemitic views in Alex Jones interview

Dan Milmo Global technology editor
Fri 2 Dec 2022 08.29 GMT

Ye, the rapper formerly known as Kanye West, has been suspended from Twitter after he tweeted an image of a swastika blended with a star of David, less than two weeks after he returned to the platform.

The suspension took place hours after Ye praised Adolf Hitler and the Nazis in an interview on InfoWars, a show hosted by the rightwing conspiracy theorist Alex Jones.

Ye was one of several high-profile Twitter users whose accounts were banned or restricted on the site who then had them reinstated after Elon Musk took over as owner.

Ye’s account was unlocked on 21 November, having previously been restricted for tweeting an antisemitic message.

Musk tweeted: “I tried my best. Despite that, he again violated our rule against incitement to violence. Account will be suspended.”

Musk has previously described his approach to content moderation as: “If in doubt, let the speech exist.” As well as reinstating Trump’s account, Musk has declared a “general amnesty” for previously suspended accounts. Musk did not clarify whether Ye’s suspension would be permanent.




https://www.theguardian.com/music/2022/ ... r-of-david

Phoenix520 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 12:30 pm Do tech bros hate Apple because it took them so long to release source code to developers while MS did it right away?

neeneko wrote: ↑Fri Dec 02, 2022 6:22 am

Phoenix520 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 12:30 pm Do tech bros hate Apple because it took them so long to release source code to developers while MS did it right away?

Ask any particular techbro and they will give any number of answers, but at its core it is a cultural thing. Apple centred a group of consumers that was not them. They see themselves as the movers and shakers of technology, all companies must think of their needs first. Apple instead focused on 'creative' types.. artists, writers, publishers, the types of people that techbros see as failures who do not do 'real' work. Apple focused on them, and built really cool stuff for them and their needs. I remember them being pissed about it all the way back in the 80s... how dare this 'cool' Macintosh not be made for them!