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Dr. Ken wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 8:43 am Lindell is such a sucker. And we thought Dennis really swindled Arpaio good. He's really moving up in the world when it comes to marks. I wonder how much he'll scam next and from whom. Didn't Arpaio also pay for Montgomery's house in Washington State?

Dr. Ken wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 8:43 am Lindell is such a sucker. And we thought Dennis really swindled Arpaio good. He's really moving up in the world when it comes to marks. I wonder how much he'll scam next and from whom. Didn't Arpaio also pay for Montgomery's house in Washington State?

Dr. Ken wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 8:43 am Lindell is such a sucker. And we thought Dennis really swindled Arpaio good. He's really moving up in the world when it comes to marks. I wonder how much he'll scam next and from whom. Didn't Arpaio also pay for Montgomery's house in Washington State?

bob wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 2:28 pm So Lindell's not doing due diligence on Montgomery (or, worse, doing it then ignoring it) does make him look not so bright.

So my point, I guess, is that falling for one of Montgomery's scams does not make Mike Lindell stupid. Lots of really smart people have fallen for his scams.

One of a series about the Fellowship Foundation, the secretive religious group that runs the National Prayer Breakfast and is popularly known as The Family. This series is based on Family documents obtained by TYT, including lists of breakfast guests and who invited them.

Perhaps as much as former Pres. Trump himself, MyPillow CEO Mike Lindell has become the public face of the Big Lie. Like the Jan. 6 Capitol attackers, Lindell is brandishing openly theocratic, Christian beliefs to secure a Biblically based autocracy led by a man he sees as divinely anointed.

Lindell wasn’t always this way. But over the past several years, people with ties to The Family have played key roles behind the scenes in Lindell’s radicalization, religiously and politically.

Family insiders and allies, for instance, have dominated the boards of Lindell’s nonprofits. One man associated with The Family was part of Lindell’s “legal offense fund” to challenge election results.

fierceredpanda wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 8:52 am The Family had a documentary made about them a while ago on Netflix.

AndyinPA wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 11:25 am

fierceredpanda wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 8:52 am The Family had a documentary made about them a while ago on Netflix.

Scary. I watched it.

Lani wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 12:53 pm

AndyinPA wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 11:25 am

fierceredpanda wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 8:52 am The Family had a documentary made about them a while ago on Netflix.

Scary. I watched it.

I remember it. It needs to be recognized for what it does.

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Mike Lindell claims spreading lies about Dominion Voting Systems is good for business
Lawyers tell Salon Mike Lindell's ill-advised comments may make $1.3B lawsuit "a downhill slope for Dominion"
By ZACHARY PETRIZZO
PUBLISHED SEPTEMBER 7, 2021 5:50AM (EDT)

Last Thursday night, MyPillow CEO Mike Lindell made a surprising admission to his loyal followers, considering that he faces a defamation lawsuit by Dominion Voting Systems for $1.3 billion. Lindell said his company has profited from his repeated lies about the voting technology firm — enough that the pillow king has recently hired an additional 200 employees. "We hired 200 more employees because — 200 more employees," the MyPillow guy stated on his streaming site, Lindell TV. "We had to hire more because we are busy. People have responded. They have responded out there. We are a USA company with — now we have 2,700 employees. They are hardworking people."

In fact, Dominion argued exactly this in the company's initial Feb. 22 complaint against MyPillow and Lindell, alleging that the pillow tycoon had pushed unsubstantiated lies about the 2020 election and Dominion's voting machines in order to generate more revenue for his pillow empire. Describing Lindell as "a talented salesman and former professional card counter," Dominion's complaint alleged that he "sells the lie to this day because the lie sells pillows. MyPillow's defamatory marketing campaign — with promo codes like 'FightforTrump,' '45,' 'Proof,' and 'QAnon' — has increased MyPillow sales by 30-40% and continues duping people into redirecting their election-lie outrage into pillow purchases."

Responding to those accusations in an April 19 memorandum accompanying a motion to dismiss the suit, Lindell's legal team argued the opposite, contending that Dominion was wrong to claim Lindell's company is thriving. "The Plaintiffs finally claim that Mr. Lindell's statements about Dominion were nothing more than an attempt to sell pillows. Exhibit 230 demonstrates that Mr. Lindell's principled stand resulted in a loss of business," Lindell's lawyers wrote. "Numerous retailers – including Bed Bath & Beyond, Kohl's, Today's Shopping Choice and Wayfair – dropped MyPillow products after Mr. Lindell's public statements." While it's true that several big-box and online retailers dropped Lindell's signature pillow from their stores, Lindell now claims his business has generated enough increased revenue to hire more employees. A Dominion spokesperson declined to comment on the matter when reached by Salon.

Experienced trial attorney Max Kennerly told Salon that Lindell's admission that he has profited off the lies he's been spreading might not be the soundest legal approach. "It's quite rare for civil defendants in any case to admit a connection between the alleged wrongdoing and their income," Kennerly said. "It's particularly unusual for defamation defendants to draw a connection between their allegedly defamatory statements and their own wallet — typically, the plaintiff has to fight just to show that could have been part of the motivation. "By and large, defamation cases are an uphill battle, but it seems like Lindell is committed to making it a downhill slope for Dominion," Kennerly concluded.

After being dropped by retailers, MyPillow largely turned to TrumpWorld influencers and far-right figures, including Dan Bongino, Steve Bannon and Alex Jones, among others, to hawk products from dog beds to Giza dream sheets, relying on a mysterious profit-sharing agreement between the parties. Former journalist and recent Duke Law School graduate Robert DeNault, in a conversation, with Salon, further discussed the contradictory statements made by Lindell and his team:

Any time a client publicly contradicts an assertion an attorney made in their defense, it's not a great situation. Here it seems really problematic, because Lindell's attorneys directly asserted he had taken a loss on his business in response to Dominion's claim Lindell was defaming them to profit with MyPillow sales. But now Lindell appears to be out here suggesting his company is actually profiting and even growing based on media exposure he's gotten from the situation. The big issue is that if you're his lawyer, you might need to argue that he was embellishing or perhaps even lying when he said that MyPillow actually got busier and hired more people, in order to avoid accusations by Dominion that you've misrepresented facts to the court. But even that argument has pitfalls, because it involves admitting to conduct that strongly resembles the allegations Dominion is making against him, which is essentially that Lindell lies freely on TV and elsewhere. It's not an enviable situation to be in.

As Salon reported last week, Lindell not only recently sold one of his private planes but has also paid out millions to his self-appointed cyber experts. The pillow maven didn't return a Salon request for comment on this story.

orlylicious wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 11:44 pm

Mike Lindell claims spreading lies about Dominion Voting Systems is good for business
Lawyers tell Salon Mike Lindell's ill-advised comments may make $1.3B lawsuit "a downhill slope for Dominion"
By ZACHARY PETRIZZO
PUBLISHED SEPTEMBER 7, 2021 5:50AM (EDT)

Last Thursday night, MyPillow CEO Mike Lindell made a surprising admission to his loyal followers, considering that he faces a defamation lawsuit by Dominion Voting Systems for $1.3 billion. Lindell said his company has profited from his repeated lies about the voting technology firm — enough that the pillow king has recently hired an additional 200 employees. "We hired 200 more employees because — 200 more employees," the MyPillow guy stated on his streaming site, Lindell TV. "We had to hire more because we are busy. People have responded. They have responded out there. We are a USA company with — now we have 2,700 employees. They are hardworking people."

In fact, Dominion argued exactly this in the company's initial Feb. 22 complaint against MyPillow and Lindell, alleging that the pillow tycoon had pushed unsubstantiated lies about the 2020 election and Dominion's voting machines in order to generate more revenue for his pillow empire. Describing Lindell as "a talented salesman and former professional card counter," Dominion's complaint alleged that he "sells the lie to this day because the lie sells pillows. MyPillow's defamatory marketing campaign — with promo codes like 'FightforTrump,' '45,' 'Proof,' and 'QAnon' — has increased MyPillow sales by 30-40% and continues duping people into redirecting their election-lie outrage into pillow purchases."

Responding to those accusations in an April 19 memorandum accompanying a motion to dismiss the suit, Lindell's legal team argued the opposite, contending that Dominion was wrong to claim Lindell's company is thriving. "The Plaintiffs finally claim that Mr. Lindell's statements about Dominion were nothing more than an attempt to sell pillows. Exhibit 230 demonstrates that Mr. Lindell's principled stand resulted in a loss of business," Lindell's lawyers wrote. "Numerous retailers – including Bed Bath & Beyond, Kohl's, Today's Shopping Choice and Wayfair – dropped MyPillow products after Mr. Lindell's public statements." While it's true that several big-box and online retailers dropped Lindell's signature pillow from their stores, Lindell now claims his business has generated enough increased revenue to hire more employees. A Dominion spokesperson declined to comment on the matter when reached by Salon.

Slim Cognito wrote: ↑Wed Sep 08, 2021 10:13 am It should be simple enough (shouldn't it?) to make Lindell cough up records that show his profit over the past year and new hires. It's possible his numbers have gone up, but it's also possible he's still lying to save face. After all, I believe the guy is mentally ill and, in other circumstances, I'd pity him.

Slim Cognito wrote: ↑Wed Sep 08, 2021 10:13 am It should be simple enough (shouldn't it?) to make Lindell cough up records that show his profit over the past year and new hires. It's possible his numbers have gone up, but it's also possible he's still lying to save face. After all, I believe the guy is mentally ill and, in other circumstances, I'd pity him.