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RVInit wrote: ↑Tue Aug 27, 2024 9:42 pm I thought the new indictment has the same four charges, just dropping the evidence regarding his use of the DOJ/Jeffrey Clark. Am I misunderstanding?

W. Kevin Vicklund wrote: ↑Tue Aug 27, 2024 9:47 pm

RVInit wrote: ↑Tue Aug 27, 2024 9:42 pm I thought the new indictment has the same four charges, just dropping the evidence regarding his use of the DOJ/Jeffrey Clark. Am I misunderstanding?

There's also quite a bit on delineating official acts and personal acts.

RVInit wrote: ↑Tue Aug 27, 2024 9:55 pm

W. Kevin Vicklund wrote: ↑Tue Aug 27, 2024 9:47 pm

RVInit wrote: ↑Tue Aug 27, 2024 9:42 pm I thought the new indictment has the same four charges, just dropping the evidence regarding his use of the DOJ/Jeffrey Clark. Am I misunderstanding?

There's also quite a bit on delineating official acts and personal acts.

So, did they actually drop any actual charges or just some of the evidence to back up those charges? That's what I'm confused about.

p0rtia wrote: ↑Tue Aug 27, 2024 10:13 pm

RVInit wrote: ↑Tue Aug 27, 2024 9:55 pm

W. Kevin Vicklund wrote: ↑Tue Aug 27, 2024 9:47 pm

There's also quite a bit on delineating official acts and personal acts.

So, did they actually drop any actual charges or just some of the evidence to back up those charges? That's what I'm confused about.

Same number of charges, but they took out evidence that MAGA SCOTUS said they couldn't use (notably communications with federal employees/DOJ and the Georgia phone call [because for sick reasons this is unconstitutionally considered to be part of his official duties]).

Then they added argument, for example, clarifying that fuckhead was acting in an unofficial way for whatever is left in. Also saying that Pence communications can stay in because he was acting as pres of Senate during those convos or whatever.

Dr. Ken wrote: ↑Tue Aug 27, 2024 4:41 pm Superceding indictment
https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status ... 4825843033

Kyle Cheney @kyledcheney
BREAKING: A grand jury has returned a superseding indictment against Donald Trump in Washington, D.C. retaining the same four core charges against him for trying to subvert the election.
10:01 PM · Aug 27, 2024

tek wrote: ↑Thu Sep 05, 2024 2:20 pm Any links that aren't to x/fb/etc?

In a new order, U.S. District Judge Tanya Chutkan has laid out a pretrial schedule in the federal criminal case against Donald Trump for alleged election interference. The case, spearheaded by Special Counsel Jack Smith, will now feature key legal filings just as the 2024 election enters its final phase, potentially unveiling significant new evidence to the public.

The order, issued after a status conference on September 5, 2024, both freezes certain proceedings and establishes firm deadlines for filings on various motions, including those concerning presidential immunity and Trump’s efforts to dismiss charges. All pretrial deadlines, except those directly addressed by the court, have been paused, and the timeframe between August 2 and October 24, 2024, has been excluded from the Speedy Trial Act calculation.

Among the critical dates, the Department of Justice (DOJ) must file an opening brief on the issue of presidential immunity by September 26, 2024. Trump’s response, coupled with a renewed motion to dismiss on the same grounds, is due on October 17, while the DOJ’s reply will follow on October 29. This timeline ensures that any rulings or developments in this area will occur as Election Day approaches.

Another deadline arrives on October 3, when Trump must submit a supplement to his motion to dismiss on statutory grounds. This will be followed by the government’s response on October 17.

On October 31, 2024, the DOJ must file its opposition to Trump’s expected motion to dismiss based on the Appointments and Appropriations Clauses. Trump’s reply is then due by November 7, making the legal back-and-forth a prominent issue in the campaign’s closing weeks.

With these deadlines, Judge Chutkan has set the stage for a series of high-profile legal exchanges that could dominate headlines, particularly as both sides prepare to argue over Trump’s claims of presidential immunity and other key issues. The filings are likely to include new evidence and arguments, potentially giving voters further insight into Trump’s legal troubles and efforts to overturn the 2020 election, just as they head to the polls to vote in the 2024 election.

Kyle Cheney
@kyledcheney

JUST IN: Jack Smith signals his brief on presidential immunity, due Thursday, will come in at 180 pages.

The “detailed factual proffer” of 90 pages will be where the newsiest info is. He anticipates filing it under seal with a redacted version ready to go public as soon as Chutkan approves it.

Kyle Cheney
@kyledcheney

JUST IN: Trump says Jack Smith should not be allowed to file a 180-page "hit piece" this close to the election, particularly while Trump is restricted by gag order from commenting on witnesses.

Dems will love this: Trump cites Comey as evidence that DOJ should stick to the 60-day rule avoiding impactful actions prior to the election.

p0rtia wrote: ↑Mon Sep 23, 2024 8:53 pmIrony Meter.png

Kyle Cheney
@kyledcheney

JUST IN: Judge Chutkan has *granted* Jack Smith's proposal to submit a 180-page brief full of evidence related to Trump's criminal charges in Washington, D.C.

She again says Trump's claim this would be unfair politically has no bearing on her ruling.