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Volkonski wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 12:25 pm I am thinking his motivation was sexual in nature rather than racism. If it was primarily racism why did he not target more numerous businesses employing Asians like restaurants?

A total of 8 people were killed and 1 injured in a series of shootings in Atlanta, Georgia and 3 nearby Asian massage parlors on the afternoon of the 16th. A local Korean media reported that he made a remark'I will do this.'

On the 17th, the Hankook Ilbo, Atlanta, quoted an employee A of the massage parlor'Gold Massage Spa' where the shooting took place, and said that the suspect at the time of the crime said that he would'kill all Asians'. It is known that Mr. A was in the store at the time of the shooting, but managed to evacuate and then conveyed the information to a nearby Korean business.

The identity of the victims naturally led to speculation that there was a racial motivation for the murders. But in a press conference Wednesday, Cherokee County sheriff's captain Jay Baker tried to downplay that possibility. He repeated Long's claim that the murder spree "was not racially motivated," and instead that it was about his supposed sex addiction. He "sees these locations as … a temptation for him that he wanted to eliminate," Baker said. Sounding almost like a defense attorney, Baker also said Long "understood the gravity of it … yesterday was a really bad day for him, and this is what he did."

neeneko wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 8:56 am Huh.. if women at massage parlors were the target, I wonder if this is an overlap between anti-asian racism and incelness.

keith wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 6:04 pm

neeneko wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 8:56 am Huh.. if women at massage parlors were the target, I wonder if this is an overlap between anti-asian racism and incelness.

You are jumping to conclusions.

The shooter was just having a bad day. It could happen to any of us.

keith wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 6:04 pm

neeneko wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 8:56 am Huh.. if women at massage parlors were the target, I wonder if this is an overlap between anti-asian racism and incelness.

You are jumping to conclusions.

The shooter was just having a bad day. It could happen to any of us.

On Wednesday, the authorities named the victims found inside Young’s Asian Massage as Ms. Yaun, 33, of Acworth; Xiaojie Tan, 49, of Kennesaw; Daoyou Feng, 44; and Paul Andre Michels, 54, whose brother said he lived in Tucker.

Mr. Hernandez-Ortiz, the man injured in the attack, was making his way to a money exchange business next door to Young’s Asian Massage when shots rang out, his wife, Flor Gonzalez, said. Moments later, he desperately reached for his cellphone.

Paul Andre Michels, another person killed at the spa, was one of nine siblings, his brother John Michels said.

“We did almost everything together,” Mr. Michels, 52, said. His brother, he said, was a businessman and a veteran of the U.S. Army infantry, where he served in the late 1980s. Paul Michels had been married for more than 20 years and was a Catholic as well as a strong political conservative, his brother said. He grew up in southwest Detroit and moved to Georgia about 25 years ago for work.

Lani wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 10:32 pm He said "I'm going to kill all Asians.” So he's told us that he's a racist. Don't know why the police are brushing that off.

A Cherokee County, Georgia, Sheriff’s Office spokesperson came under fire Wednesday afternoon for pinning the deadly Tuesday shooting rampage that left eight dead—including six Asian women—on a 21-year-old white man’s “very bad day.”

“Yesterday was a really bad day for him and this is what he did,” Jay Baker said during the joint news conference with the Atlanta Police Department about 21-year-old Robert Aaron Long.

But it seems the same spokesperson shared racist content online, including pointing the finger at China for the ongoing coronavirus pandemic—the same vitriol advocates say has fueled a horrific surge in violence against Asian Americans.

In a Facebook page associated with Capt. Jay Baker of the Cherokee Sheriff’s Office, several photos show the law enforcer was promoting T-shirts with the slogan “COVID-19 imported virus from CHY-NA.”

Long was deeply religious and could not control his desire to visit massage parlors and engage in sexual acts, something that sent him into deep bouts of depression, said Tyler Bayless, who lived with Long for six months in 2019 and 2020 at Maverick Recovery Center in Roswell, Georgia. Long would frequently relapse, then express guilt because of his Christian faith, Bayless said.

"He would say, 'I've done it again' and it just ate away at him," Bayless said. "He felt absolutely merciless remorse."

Especially after his relapses, Long would spend hours in prayer, Bayless said. In weekly therapy sessions he would confess his indiscretions and say how guilty he felt about what he had done.



Bayless said he was "shocked, but not surprised" when he learned Long had been involved in a mass shooting. He said Long was a gun enthusiast, and recalled him telling a story about receiving his first gun for his eighth or ninth birthday. At one point, Bayless said Long gave him a knife to take care of because he feared he would harm himself with it.

Lani wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 10:32 pm He said "I'm going to kill all Asians.” So he's told us that he's a racist. Don't know why the police are brushing that off.

Reynolds previously told reporters that it was too early to say if the killings were racially motivated — “but the indicators right now are it may not be.”

Host Shepard Smith asked Reynolds about reports the suspect made anti-Asian statements at the targeted massage parlors.

“I don’t know that it’s true,” said Reynolds. “I’ve heard that from social media and media, but I’ve not heard that from our investigators.”

Reynolds told CNBC Wednesday that he regretted Baker’s comments.

“He’s a great asset to our agency, he’s expressed his concern about his choice of words,” Reynolds said. “He didn’t mean to use that in the context that it came across. I think he was quoting the suspect from the interview, that he was having a bad day, not that we think he was having a bad day. It was a horrific event, in no way did we minimize or try to minimize the severity of this.

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An elderly Asian American woman attacked and punched by a man on a San Francisco street fought back, leaving him battered, bloodied and hospitalized.

The clash came hours after city police announced increased patrols in Asian neighborhoods following a recent surge of attacks in the city and across the nation, including a shooting rampage in Georgia that left six Asian women and two other people dead.

Xiao Zhen Xie, 75, was "very traumatized, very scared" after the encounter, she told CBS San Francisco with her daughter, Dong-Mei Li, helping to translate. Xiao's face appeared swollen and she could not yet see in one eye, her daughter said.

Xiao said she was waiting at a traffic light when the suspect suddenly punched her in the eye. She picked up a stick and fought back, she said.

Volkonski wrote: ↑Thu Mar 18, 2021 9:49 am

'You bum, why did you hit me?' 75-year-old Asian woman beats attacker with stick in San Francisco

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nat ... 745168001/

An elderly Asian American woman attacked and punched by a man on a San Francisco street fought back, leaving him battered, bloodied and hospitalized.

The clash came hours after city police announced increased patrols in Asian neighborhoods following a recent surge of attacks in the city and across the nation, including a shooting rampage in Georgia that left six Asian women and two other people dead.

Xiao Zhen Xie, 75, was "very traumatized, very scared" after the encounter, she told CBS San Francisco with her daughter, Dong-Mei Li, helping to translate. Xiao's face appeared swollen and she could not yet see in one eye, her daughter said.

Xiao said she was waiting at a traffic light when the suspect suddenly punched her in the eye. She picked up a stick and fought back, she said.

Clairez wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 11:31 pm Don't buy his whole story. As a Christian, he felt so guilty about having sex but was comfortable about murdering more than a half-dozen people in three different locations. Seems that some of that guilt would kick in while driving from location number 1 to location number 2.

somerset wrote: ↑Thu Mar 18, 2021 10:24 am To a white supremicist, non-whites aren’t people.

Long, a White man from Woodstock, Ga., is not the first high-profile suspect to make such a claim: Harvey Weinstein, serial killer Ted Bundy, and Ariel Castro, who kidnapped three teenagers and held them captive in his Cleveland basement, have all defended their criminal actions by claiming they were addicted to sex or pornography.

But while the world of entertainment has in recent years popularized the idea of “sex addiction” through films and TV shows, researchers who study human sexuality and addiction say it is far from an established psychiatric diagnosis.

“There’s an idea that when people are too turned on, they cannot control their own behaviors,” David J. Ley, a clinical psychologist and the author of “The Myth of Sex Addiction,” told The Washington Post. “But the research shows that these ‘sex addicts’ don’t demonstrate observable difficulties in self-control.”

As HuffPost has reported, the American Psychiatric Association in 2012 removed sex addiction from the DSM-5, the nearly 1,000-page guidebook used by psychiatrists to diagnose mental disorders. Some scientists question if it is merely a mask for or symptom of other behaviors.

Long, who has been charged with murder after allegedly confessing to the killings, called the spas he targeted “a temptation for him that he wanted to eliminate,” according to police.

WASHINGTON — President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris will meet with Asian American community leaders during a scheduled visit to Georgia on Friday in the wake of the spa shootings in Atlanta that left eight people dead, six of whom were women of Asian descent.

Biden and Harris' visit to Atlanta, which will be their first joint trip since taking office, had initially been scheduled as part of the administration's "Help is Here" tour promoting the $1.9 trillion Covid-19 relief package.

While the aid package will be a key focus of their trip, administration officials said the visit was adjusted in response to the shootings.

Officials said Biden and Harris will offer their support to the community, but the exact details of their trip are still being determined.

AndyinPA wrote: ↑Thu Mar 18, 2021 12:01 pm

Long, a White man from Woodstock, Ga., is not the first high-profile suspect to make such a claim: Harvey Weinstein, serial killer Ted Bundy, and Ariel Castro, who kidnapped three teenagers and held them captive in his Cleveland basement, have all defended their criminal actions by claiming they were addicted to sex or pornography.

But while the world of entertainment has in recent years popularized the idea of “sex addiction” through films and TV shows, researchers who study human sexuality and addiction say it is far from an established psychiatric diagnosis.

“There’s an idea that when people are too turned on, they cannot control their own behaviors,” David J. Ley, a clinical psychologist and the author of “The Myth of Sex Addiction,” told The Washington Post. “But the research shows that these ‘sex addicts’ don’t demonstrate observable difficulties in self-control.”

As HuffPost has reported, the American Psychiatric Association in 2012 removed sex addiction from the DSM-5, the nearly 1,000-page guidebook used by psychiatrists to diagnose mental disorders. Some scientists question if it is merely a mask for or symptom of other behaviors.

Long, who has been charged with murder after allegedly confessing to the killings, called the spas he targeted “a temptation for him that he wanted to eliminate,” according to police.