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New York (Manhattan D.A.) v. Trump Organization - criminal case
Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2022 9:31 pm
by MN-Skeptic
Later in that thread when the defense starts their closing arguments -
New York (Manhattan D.A.) v. Trump Organization - criminal case
Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2022 3:52 pm
by realist
NEWS
Trump Org Defense Team Calls for Mistrial Over DA's References to Ex-President's Actions
Defense attorney Michael van der Veen argued that the Manhattan DA had presented Donald Trump as an unindicted co-conspirator in the fraud scheme, putting a bias on the jury “that can’t be undone.”
I haven't found the story anywhere but law.com, so ...
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During his closing argument Friday in the criminal tax fraud trial of the Trump Organization, Manhattan assistant district attorney Joshua Steinglass showed jurors a memo initialed by former President Donald Trump.
In the memo, Trump Organization chief operating officer Matthew Calamari asked the company’s controller, Jeffrey McConney, to reduce his salary by $72,000, the amount the Trump Organization paid for his rent in 2012. Prosecutors have argued the process of “backing out” personal expenses from executives’ salaries was one way the Trump Organization avoided taxes in the later years of the alleged fraud scheme.
Steinglass noted that Trump had written “OK” and his initials on the memo in his signature black Sharpie.
“There’s only one reason for that, which is to underreport income,” Steinglass said. “Mr. Trump is explicitly sanctioning tax fraud.”
The Trump Organization defense team immediately offered an objection, which was sustained by Acting Supreme Court Justice Juan Merchan.
Steinglass reiterated after a sidebar that Trump “is not on trial,” but he emphasized that jurors should be skeptical of the defense narrative that McConney and Allen Weisselberg, who pleaded guilty to 15 counts in August and testified under a plea agreement, “went rogue” and acted without the knowledge or approval of the company’s CEO.
“This whole narrative to show Donald Trump was blissfully ignorant is just not real,” he said, later urging jurors to “put aside the elephant that’s not in the room” while remembering that “the rules apply to everyone.”
The “explicitly sanctioning” comment was one of several issues raised by Trump Organization defense attorney Michael van der Veen when he moved for a mistrial at the conclusion of Steinglass’ summation.
“We picked a jury and voir dired a jury based on the People’s representation that this case was not going to be about Donald Trump,” van der Veen said.
Van der Veen argued that Steinglass had presented Trump as an unindicted co-conspirator in the fraud scheme, putting a bias on the jury “that can’t be undone.”
Steinglass argued that the DA’s theory has always been that corporate liability is predicated on the actions of Weisselberg and McConney, not Trump, but Trump was nevertheless the CEO and president of the Trump Organization.
“If the name of the CEO were John Doe, there’d be no objection here,” Steinglass said.
Merchan said he did not recall Steinglass promising not to mention Trump. Instead, he said, he recalled Steinglass saying the DA’s case would not get into politics or suggest Trump should be sitting at the defense table.
“I don’t believe that it’s necessary to declare a mistrial,” Merchan said. “In fact, that’s not even really a thought.”
The Trump Organization defense attorneys also objected strongly to a chart prepared for Steinglass’ closing argument, which Merchan eventually allowed him to present.
The chart showed the various ways in which Weisselberg earned money through salary, bonus and unreported personal expenses across the years of the alleged fraud scheme.
Steinglass argued that, contrary to the defense team’s argument that the Trump Organization saved only an incidental amount on Medicare taxes through Weisselberg’s scheme, the company saved hundreds of thousands of dollars by funding its executives’ cars and apartments with so-called “pre-tax” dollars.
“In order to do this legally, to get the same amount into Allen Weisselberg’s pockets, the Trump Corp. and Trump Payroll Corp. would have had to gross him up roughly double,” Steinglass said.
https://www.law.com/newyorklawjournal/2 ... s-actions/
New York (Manhattan D.A.) v. Trump Organization - criminal case
Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2022 8:39 pm
by raison de arizona
Pfffft. Declare a mistrial! Over that? Pointing out the obvious?
New York (Manhattan D.A.) v. Trump Organization - criminal case
Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2022 2:28 pm
by Dr. Ken
New York (Manhattan D.A.) v. Trump Organization - criminal case
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2022 3:52 pm
by raison de arizona
Santiago Mayer @santiagomayer_ wrote:
TRUMP ORG GUILTY OF TAX FRAUD AND SCHEME TO DEFRAUD
New York (Manhattan D.A.) v. Trump Organization - criminal case
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2022 3:54 pm
by Kendra
New York (Manhattan D.A.) v. Trump Organization - criminal case
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2022 3:59 pm
by much ado
What happened? I don't see anything on Fox News yet?
New York (Manhattan D.A.) v. Trump Organization - criminal case
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2022 4:01 pm
by Kendra
No worries, Deadline WH is on it with a top panel to start the show off.
New York (Manhattan D.A.) v. Trump Organization - criminal case
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2022 4:02 pm
by p0rtia
New York (Manhattan D.A.) v. Trump Organization - criminal case
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2022 4:10 pm
by raison de arizona
New York (Manhattan D.A.) v. Trump Organization - criminal case
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2022 4:10 pm
by AndyinPA
New York (Manhattan D.A.) v. Trump Organization - criminal case
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2022 4:15 pm
by Kendra
Yeah, now if Hershel could get his a** kicked tonight, I'd call that a near perfect day.
New York (Manhattan D.A.) v. Trump Organization - criminal case
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2022 4:23 pm
by raison de arizona
NY AG James Statement.
https://twitter.com/NewYorkStateAG/stat ... 6768656384
NY AG James @NewYorkStateAG wrote:
Today's guilty verdict against the Trump Organization shows that we will hold individuals and organizations accountable when they violate our laws to line their pockets.
I commend @ManhattanDA for this big victory, and I am proud of the role that my office played in securing it.
Manhattan DA Bragg statement:
https://www.manhattanda.org/district-at ... roll-corp/
Edit to correct link, thanks Dr. Ken!
New York (Manhattan D.A.) v. Trump Organization - criminal case
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2022 4:24 pm
by Dr. Ken
So what are the actual consequences of this?
New York (Manhattan D.A.) v. Trump Organization - criminal case
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2022 4:26 pm
by Dr. Ken
Your link goes to the april statement. Here is the current statement from Bragg
https://www.manhattanda.org/district-at ... roll-corp/
New York (Manhattan D.A.) v. Trump Organization - criminal case
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2022 4:26 pm
by chancery
When did the jury start deliberating?
New York (Manhattan D.A.) v. Trump Organization - criminal case
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2022 4:30 pm
by Dr. Ken
New York (Manhattan D.A.) v. Trump Organization - criminal case
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2022 4:57 pm
by Frater I*I
raison de arizona wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 3:52 pm
Santiago Mayer @santiagomayer_ wrote:
TRUMP ORG GUILTY OF TAX FRAUD AND SCHEME TO DEFRAUD
Good, now burn the whole org down....
New York (Manhattan D.A.) v. Trump Organization - criminal case
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2022 4:57 pm
by raison de arizona
Oh, well would you look at that. As soon as the verdict was announced, Taibbi was ready with a...distraction.
New York (Manhattan D.A.) v. Trump Organization - criminal case
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2022 4:58 pm
by Frater I*I
Kendra wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 4:15 pm
Yeah, now if Hershel could get his a** kicked tonight, I'd call that a near perfect day.
From your lips to Cthulhu's ears...
New York (Manhattan D.A.) v. Trump Organization - criminal case
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2022 5:01 pm
by bob
Dr. Ken wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 4:24 pm
So what are the actual consequences of this?
I presume those litigating the civil case know how to cite and rely on these findings in that case.
New York (Manhattan D.A.) v. Trump Organization - criminal case
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2022 5:02 pm
by Dr. Ken
raison de arizona wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 4:57 pm
Oh, well would you look at that. As soon as the verdict was announced, Taibbi was ready with a...distraction.
SQUIRREL!
New York (Manhattan D.A.) v. Trump Organization - criminal case
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2022 5:06 pm
by Kendra
New York (Manhattan D.A.) v. Trump Organization - criminal case
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2022 5:18 pm
by Greatgrey
Apparently there were 17 witches in Manhattan
New York (Manhattan D.A.) v. Trump Organization - criminal case
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2022 5:20 pm
by humblescribe
Kendra wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 5:06 pm
Um, no, Faux News.
The organizations were not convicted on real estate valuation issues. They were convicted on payroll tax issues and concealing compensation from the taxing authorities.
Geez, do a little research--just five minutes--before you publish and announce your bullshit.