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pipistrelle wrote: Wed Jan 19, 2022 5:18 pm Prescribed burn vs controlled burn? Who does a controlled burn with 20 mph winds?
A prescribed burn is permitted by "prescription", which includes a date/time range within which you are legally allowed to conduct the burn. Those are typically issued after careful review of expected weather conditions, and that is why the prescription expires.

During my former career, which seems ages ago and in another lifetime, in the first year I worked for a manager who was a real "yahoo" type. He would ride on top of one of the trucks and I swear both arms and legs would be kicking and he's be yelling "yahoo" all the way to the burn site. Sometimes you don't get as good a burn in certain areas as you would like, and once he insisted on going back to burn a certain area almost a day beyond the expiration of the permit. And the burn got out of control. Oops. He got called into the district office the next day and as soon as he walked out the door, we all laughed our asses off about him having to go for his spanking.
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No sooner did the Fogbow go down today than there were many interesting stories. Here is one/

California wildfire triggers evacuations, closes highway

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Jan 22 (Reuters) - A 1,500-acre fire near the coastal community of Big Sur, California triggered evacuations and closed part of a major highway, state and local officials said on Saturday.

The Colorado Fire, which has been active since Friday, was 5% contained, the California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection (Cal Fire) said.

A 20-mile stretch of State Highway 1, a scenic north-south route on the Pacific Coast, was closed from near the beach town of Carmel-by-the-Sea to Andrew Molera State Park.

About 400 people in Monterey County were evacuated from 1,100 structures, a spokeswoman for the American Red Cross said, citing county reports.
Wildfires in the middle of January. :?
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Volkonski wrote: Sat Jan 22, 2022 10:16 pmWildfires in the middle of January. :?
Well, it's usually landslides closing Hwy 1 in winter, but it's been dry so...fire it is!
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WOW, this is a sobering possibility and the first I've heard of this potential cause of the Marshall Fire. Colorado doesn't just have a BUNCH of abandoned hard rock mines, we also have several abandoned coal mines, many of which are along the Front Range.

From Denver Channel 7, Authorities confirm investigation into coal mine near Marshall Fire as possible origin of fire
DENVER, Co — Authorities confirm that a coal mine, near the area believed to be the starting point of the Marshall Fire, is being investigated as the possible source of the inferno, among many other potential sources that are being looked into.

The coal mine is located just south of the Marshall Mesa trailhead off Highway 93 and is one of 38 abandoned coal mines in the state that are listed to have some level of fire activity, according to a 2018 inventory report of Colorado underground coal mine fires.

:snippity:

In 2005, a brush fire was ignited by a hot vent from the Marshall Coal Mine, which was quickly contained, according to the 2018 report. As a result, officials filled the vent with 275 tons of small rocks.

In 2016, authorities went back for touch ups and to cover up small vents.
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Strong winds pushed a wildfire that broke out in the rugged mountains above Big Sur to the sea, forcing hundreds of residents on this precarious stretch of the California coast to evacuate.
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Mr. Gneiss wrote: Sun Jan 23, 2022 1:02 am WOW, this is a sobering possibility and the first I've heard of this potential cause of the Marshall Fire. Colorado doesn't just have a BUNCH of abandoned hard rock mines, we also have several abandoned coal mines, many of which are along the Front Range.

From Denver Channel 7, Authorities confirm investigation into coal mine near Marshall Fire as possible origin of fire
DENVER, Co — Authorities confirm that a coal mine, near the area believed to be the starting point of the Marshall Fire, is being investigated as the possible source of the inferno, among many other potential sources that are being looked into.

The coal mine is located just south of the Marshall Mesa trailhead off Highway 93 and is one of 38 abandoned coal mines in the state that are listed to have some level of fire activity, according to a 2018 inventory report of Colorado underground coal mine fires.

:snippity:

In 2005, a brush fire was ignited by a hot vent from the Marshall Coal Mine, which was quickly contained, according to the 2018 report. As a result, officials filled the vent with 275 tons of small rocks.

In 2016, authorities went back for touch ups and to cover up small vents.
See Centralia, Pennsylvania. Burning since 1962.
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pipistrelle wrote: Sun Jan 23, 2022 8:56 am See Centralia, Pennsylvania. Burning since 1962.
Wasn't that fire started by the town burning their trash at the city dump? It is one step from being a ghost town today (5 inhabitants in 2017).
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Mr. Gneiss wrote: Sun Jan 23, 2022 1:13 pm
pipistrelle wrote: Sun Jan 23, 2022 8:56 am See Centralia, Pennsylvania. Burning since 1962.
Wasn't that fire started by the town burning their trash at the city dump? It is one step from being a ghost town today (5 inhabitants in 2017).
Pretty much is a ghost town.
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Here we go again. :(

Fire at fertilizer plant may cause explosion, area evacuated
The City of Winston-Salem is asking people within one mile of a raging blaze at a fertilizer plant to evacuate due to the possibility of a large explosion


https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/fir ... itter_abcn
The City of Winston-Salem is asking people within one mile of a raging blaze at a fertilizer plant to evacuate due to the possibility of a large explosion.

WGHP-TV reports that the fire started Monday night at the Weaver Fertilizer Plant on North Cherry Street. City officials have confirmed small explosions at the plant.

Firefighters say there is the potential for a large explosion of ammonium nitrate. Winston-Salem Fire Chief Trey Mayo says fire crews “abandoned” the fire-fighting operation because of the large volume of ammonium nitrate on site.

The building has collapsed as well, and access to the product that is in the building is restricted, WGHP reported.

Firefighters could not flow enough volume of water to be reasonably certain that they could keep it cool enough to prevent a detonation. The cause of the fire is unknown.
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La Marque firefighters were responding to an oil well fire in Texas City, according to officials.

Firefighters received a call at about 7:30 p.m. about a large fire behind the Painted Meadows subdivision.
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Calling back Red Adair from his cloud...
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White smoke! Fort Worth has a pope! ;)

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Kansas

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This is about 100 miles south of us. Conditions here remain dry and windy.

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Maybe rain next week. :pray:

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Houston is over 300 miles from Eastland. Good thing we moved north.

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The smoke is really bad here. The haze is gone but you can smell it like crazy. Bad for vulnerable people, like those with heart issues.
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Some years ago, we had a day in Evanston where things got hazy and the smoke smell was strong. The source of the smoke were fires in Northern Minnesota, in the vicinity of the boundary waters.
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Texas sheriff’s deputy dies while rescuing victims of Eastland Complex Fire

https://www.newschannel6now.com/2022/03 ... ntent=kauz
Eastland County Sheriff’s Office Deputy Barbara Fenley died while rescuing people impacted by the Eastland Complex Fire in Eastland County, according to the Cisco Police Department.

“It is with very heavy hearts that today we learned of the death of one our Eastland County Deputies who put it all on the line last night trying to save people from the horrible fires,” the Cisco Police Department announced on Facebook.

“Our sister Barbara Fenley will be deeply missed. She was a special servant and an attribute to our profession.”

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According to the Associated Press, low humidity and gusty winds fueled multiple wildfires Friday in Texas, burning homes and other structures and prompting evacuations of hundreds of homes in small communities.
Eastland County only has about 18,000 residents.
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Several wildfires merged to form what fire officials call a “complex” that was burning near Eastland, about 130 miles northwest of Waco.

As of Friday morning, the fires had burned about 62.5 square miles, according to Texas A&M Forest Service.
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Town of Carbon Among Hardest Hit by Eastland Complex Wildfires

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The Eastland Complex is composed of four different fires managed under one incident, according to Angel Lopez Portillo with the Texas A&M Forest Service.

As of midday Friday, the fire had spread more than 45,000 acres was 4% contained. It forced the evacuation of multiple towns Thursday including Gorman, Rising Star and Carbon, where there was significant damage.
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