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CNN now reporting: Biden administration now in final stages of identifying specific military units to send to Eastern Europe to deter Russia. Next steps likely to be prep orders and then deployment orders once final decision several US officials tell CNN.
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US putting together 'global' strategy to increase gas production if Russia invades Ukraine, officials say

https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/23/politics ... index.html
The Biden administration has been in regular discussions with a number of countries and companies in Europe, the Middle East, North Africa and Asia about stepping up production of liquefied natural gas to Europe in the event that a Russian invasion of Ukraine leads to gas shortages, multiple US officials familiar with the discussions told CNN.

The State Department, led by Senior Adviser for Energy Security Amos Hochstein, has in the last six to eight weeks been putting together a global strategy exploring contingency options to redirect and increase gas supplies from different parts of the world, a senior US official said.

Reuters reported last week that Hochstein had been in talks with energy companies but that increased production was not a request. The senior US official told CNN that increased production has in fact been discussed, but that companies recognize that increasing production could be risky and would take time.

The countries engaging in the talks include Norway and Qatar, the official said, but the US' outreach has been "truly global" as Washington and allies determine what supplies will be needed to get through the winter and spring if there are gas shortages.
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Biden has begun considering options for boosting America's military assets in the region, senior administration officials said, after meeting with top national security aides at his Camp David retreat https://reut.rs/3rODa14
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EXCLUSIVE: Russia's military buildup near Ukraine has expanded to include supplies of blood along with other medical materials that would allow it to treat casualties, a key indicator of Moscow's military readiness, three U.S. officials tell
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Putin has no choice but to invade Ukraine. To do otherwise would be a disgrace for him. Once Ukraine is conquered he will set his eyes on the Baltic states; however unlike Ukraine these former Soviet republics have NATO troops in their borders.

Will Ukraine put up a resistance to Russian troops? I don't think so because Russian troops will coming in from three directions.
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I think that Ukrainians will fight.. they probably will not win..

If the fighting is in the major cities the death toll will be horrendous.

Only way to avoid this is for Putin to back down.
He still can.. these troop deployments are for “exercises”.
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I wonder if Putins move could be to at least integrate the separatists regions.

see this.
Little Russia: Ukraine separatists proclaim new state

Date 18.07.2017

All of Ukraine, minus Crimea, has been declared a new state by Donetsk separatists in the east. Their new nation of 'Malorossiya' has a flag and a map. Germany has condemned it as "completely unacceptable."

https://www.dw.com/en/little-russia-ukr ... a-39732807
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John Bolton has opinions.

https://nypost.com/2022/01/23/putins-pl ... n-as-pawn/
The headline and URL say it all.
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Whereas Trump would have stepped in as a yellow skittle?

Seriously, fuck this Trump enabler. :mad:
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"If Russia makes a choice to further invade Ukraine, we are jointly ready, and all of NATO is ready"

US President Joe Biden says it "cannot be business as usual" should Russia "violate Ukraine's sovereignty"

https://bit.ly/34j73PJ
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“We will be united, we will act together and we will take all the necessary steps”

Germany’s chancellor Olaf Scholz says his country is “absolutely united” with the US on any action responding to Russia

https://bit.ly/34ptxOL
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“Ukraine crisis: World leaders step up talks amid invasion fears”:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-60292437

What a wonderfully symbolic photo at the top of the article. (Still haven’t worked out how to insert a picture :bag: )
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Uninformed wrote: Mon Feb 07, 2022 5:39 pm “Ukraine crisis: World leaders step up talks amid invasion fears”:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-60292437

What a wonderfully symbolic photo at the top of the article. (Still haven’t worked out how to insert a picture :bag: )
Thers 2 ways. You can either

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Thanks Suranis. :thumbsup:
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Emmanuel Macron’s remarks on Russia set alarm bells ringing
Analysis: French president’s comments after Ukraine talks with Vladimir Putin should concern Nato alliance


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/ ... 1644330016
Domestic critics of Emmanuel Macron, Nato hardliners and the leadership in Ukraine will be suspiciously examining the French president’s late-night remarks at his Moscow press conference on Monday for signs of freelancing.

At one level, Macron, three months from a re-election campaign, stuck pretty faithfully to the script he had exhaustively agreed with his Nato partners before his meeting with Vladimir Putin, but at another level his particular view of Russia as a European nation, and lofty talk of a new security guarantees, will have set alarm bells ringing.

The specifics of the five hours of discussions between the French and Russian leaders, and points of convergence, were kept from the world at the press conference, but that did not stop Macron hinting at shifts in Nato’s outlook that some members say should never be made in response to military intimidation.

The French president started by stressing the historically unacceptable presence of Russian troops on Ukraine’s borders. He also faithfully repeated the offers made by Nato and the US concerning mutual limitation of military deployments, more transparency for military activities or even a limitation of the deployment of short-range and intermediate missiles. He said in these areas Moscow and the west had the same demands. Moscow has already said it is ready to discuss these points but considers a commitment from Nato to cease all enlargement its primary demand.
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Ukraine will receive Stinger anti-aircraft missiles within days, Lithuania PM says http://reut.rs/34PFygf
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Taitz is too bizzy watching the Olympics to notice that Russia might invade "buid" a "land bridge" through Moldova.
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U.S. F-15 fighter jets land in Poland, says minister http://reut.rs/3oDGxHw
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Volkonski wrote: Thu Feb 10, 2022 1:07 pm

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Interesting. Looks like the US Military is telling Russia through the press. "Hey Vlad! All those secret plans you have drawn up in utmost secrecy? Thanks for the bedtime reading. All your plans are belong to us!"
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The alternitive explanation is, of course to be putting out WRONG information to make it seem like the West has no idea what Russia is planning.

But I don't think it's that. Biden seems to be pretty genuine in trying to stop an invasion, and the best way to do that is to show the Russians that the Americans have their number. As a side benefit will likely set off a bunch of paranoia and purges inside the Russian Leadership as they try and find the leak, which will divert energy away from war preparations, get rid of valuable and talented personnel, and will probably not find the leak anyway.

Regardless, that was published with one audience in mind, the Russians.
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