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Interesting. It must be a part of their business because I've known others who have sold and purchased their homes through Zillow without that.
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Hoffymawn wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:28 am Yes, it's a pretty strange approach to selling houses. I don't think that this house is worth a lot of money, there isn't even a second floor.
The Florida housing market is very volatile so this is not unsurprising at all. That's why I am liquidating and leaving.
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Hoffymawn wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:28 am Yes, it's a pretty strange approach to selling houses. I don't think that this house is worth a lot of money, there isn't even a second floor.
That’s a positive for an older demographic.
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pipistrelle wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 5:50 am
Hoffymawn wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:28 am Yes, it's a pretty strange approach to selling houses. I don't think that this house is worth a lot of money, there isn't even a second floor.
That’s a positive for an older demographic.
Very true -- and common for elders to seek a floor plan with a first floor master BR (and if a 2nd floor for kids and grand kids when they come for a visit).
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neonzx wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 5:14 am The Florida housing market is very volatile so this is not unsurprising at all. That's why I am liquidating and leaving.
SRSLY?

Where are you going next?

:whisper: I know a guy, calls himself the Mighty Spork, he's an expert on planning to go places.
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Foggy wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:31 am
neonzx wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 5:14 am The Florida housing market is very volatile so this is not unsurprising at all. That's why I am liquidating and leaving.
SRSLY?

Where are you going next?

:whisper: I know a guy, calls himself the Mighty Spork, he's an expert on planning to go places.
I think I will take a pass on the wisdom of the Mighty Spork. Looking to New Mexico. realist may have some advice...
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I don't think I could live in New Mexico, too far from any oceans. I'm a beach rat at heart, I'm living 2 hours drive time from the beach here, and it's too far but I do manage to get a lot of beach time every summer. From New Mexico I'd have to fly, rent a hotel room, yadda yadda.

If I was on my own, I'd live within a mile of a beach somewhere. If you get much closer, the salt air is brutal on your car finish. :batting:
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neonzx wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:03 am
Foggy wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:31 am
neonzx wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 5:14 am The Florida housing market is very volatile so this is not unsurprising at all. That's why I am liquidating and leaving.
SRSLY?

Where are you going next?

:whisper: I know a guy, calls himself the Mighty Spork, he's an expert on planning to go places.
I think I will take a pass on the wisdom of the Mighty Spork. Looking to New Mexico. realist may have some advice...
Some of our best friends live in New Mexico. It's a lovely state. My friend absolutely fell in love with it the moment she stepped off the plane. Her husband was still a Colonel in the Army at the time and assigned to Los Alamos, so they had no say, but he retired within a few years, and they stayed. It has its problems, too, but nowhere near Florida.
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Foggy wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 11:48 am I don't think I could live in New Mexico, too far from any oceans. I'm a beach rat at heart, I'm living 2 hours drive time from the beach here, and it's too far but I do manage to get a lot of beach time every summer. From New Mexico I'd have to fly, rent a hotel room, yadda yadda.

If I was on my own, I'd live within a mile of a beach somewhere. If you get much closer, the salt air is brutal on your car finish. :batting:
And the storm surges can be brutal on your house which is why I now live hundreds of miles from the nearest beach.
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Yes, I told ol' Wifehorn, if we stay in NC, it would be nice to move closer to the beach, BUT we need to find a place at least 50 feet above sea level, so we can maybe leave the property to our children. :thumbsup:
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So, question...
If the business real estate market (I'm trying to refer to commercial office space) starts to lose large amounts of value because of virtual work spaces (accelerated by the Covid lockdowns), would have potential to affect other real estate markets?
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I want a house at the top of a cliff overlooking the ocean. Carmel would be nice. :batting:
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Umm ... cliffs in SoCal have a nasty habit of sliding into the ocean. Better fill up the cliff with rebar before you put a house on it, my love.
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Bedrock, baby.
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:like:
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“This is predatory capitalism and it is totally without a conscience.”
California investor buys Tucson seniors complex, raises rents by 50%

Self-styled wealth guru Kevin Easterly of San Diego would be breaking the law in his home state if he bought an apartment building and imposed a huge rent hike on tenants.

But it’s perfectly legal in Tucson, where he and his partners have been playing a sort of real-life Monopoly game: buying and repainting aging apartment buildings, and raising rents 50% or more to boost the property’s value and refinance for more than they paid, public records and Easterly’s social media posts show.
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“An older person may have less of a chance to recover from something like this. A younger person might have the ability to go out and earn some more money,” he said.

Flipping senior citizen apartments “may be legal, but it’s certainly not moral,” he said.
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Even so, he now co-owns four Tucson apartment complexes with nearly 160 units between them, all purchased in less than five years through four limited liability companies he registered in Arizona. In each case, he used a system he described in the apartment-flipping video as “rehab, kick the tenants out and raise the rents.”
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Danraft wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 12:44 pmIf the business real estate market (I'm trying to refer to commercial office space) starts to lose large amounts of value because of virtual work spaces (accelerated by the Covid lockdowns), would have potential to affect other real estate markets?
The short answer is: not really.

Empty offices means fewer workers, which mean less foot traffic for lunch spots, etc. So empty office space may affect the value of nearby commercial properties reliant on foot traffic.

As for the office space themselves, they're a rather inelastic good. In other words, what's their other use?

There will always be some demand for office space, so (for example) government entities might see the value in a long-term lease versus buying and developing their own spaces.

Some cities have been looking at emergency conversions, e.g., retooling unused office space into temporary shelters for the homeless. But that hasn't caught on, and probably never will.


In the more macro sense, if remote work becomes more prevalent, workers will move to places that are cheaper. Which will increase housing prices in those markets.
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bob wrote: Mon Jan 24, 2022 6:10 pm
Danraft wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 12:44 pmIf the business real estate market (I'm trying to refer to commercial office space) starts to lose large amounts of value because of virtual work spaces (accelerated by the Covid lockdowns), would have potential to affect other real estate markets?
The short answer is: not really.

Empty offices means fewer workers, which mean less foot traffic for lunch spots, etc. So empty office space may affect the value of nearby commercial properties reliant on foot traffic.

As for the office space themselves, they're a rather inelastic good. In other words, what's their other use?

There will always be some demand for office space, so (for example) government entities might see the value in a long-term lease versus buying and developing their own spaces.

Some cities have been looking at emergency conversions, e.g., retooling unused office space into temporary shelters for the homeless. But that hasn't caught on, and probably never will.


In the more macro sense, if remote work becomes more prevalent, workers will move to places that are cheaper. Which will increase housing prices in those markets.
That’s what we’re seeing out here. And it’s making (some of) the locals very unhappy because they’re being priced out of their own market. Plus, this is a fairly insular community; it doesn’t want outsiders coming in with their outside money unless they plan to spend it here and then leave.
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I don't know how reliable tankie lifter (@NeilNasty7) is, but interesting if true. Inventory in Phx remains at about 1/3 or where it needs to be for demand, and median price continues to climb to astronomically new levels on a monthly basis.

Confirmation?
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Why would they be getting rid of mortgage processors? As I mentioned in another thread, I'm not terribly knowledgeable about the housing market, so I don't know what layoffs of that nature portend.

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May not have anything to do with the market at large; might be an internal issue (like refocusing etc)
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Reducing operating margins is currently more important than increasing profits so that could be a reason.
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It's the refocus part. I'm in the Technology side and even there they are trying to cut costs wherever they can, anticipating a downturn coming. At least that is the scuttlebutt.

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