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They shouldn't have been allowed to hear Dickie Nixon's tapes either. :confuzzled:
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zekeb wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2021 4:07 pm They shouldn't have been allowed to hear Dickie Nixon's tapes either. :confuzzled:
Still looking for that missing 18 minutes...
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Foggy wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2021 1:14 pm Precisely. Amy and I never do anything without Kylie, you know that. I keep a half dozen burners in my trunk (that's boot for the Brits), right next to the armory and a three liter jug of adrenochrome. Don't worry, it's secured enough that sucker won't spill even in a high-speed police chase. I'm very concerned about safety, y'know. :batting:
Foggy did you start driving down to Georgia to help your pal Amy Kremer with that $29,010? It's only 6 hr (384.8 mi) via I-85 S to Atlanta... if you're already on the road, you could be there by 10, maybe even stay over with Amy and Kylie, and have plenty of time to drive back in the morning to meet the family for Thanksgiving. Maybe even bring the stuffing, your pal Amy seems like quite a cook. She'll help with stuffing and you'll help with her FEC fines, everybody wins. :dance:

In fact, it's been so long it seems like you can tell everybody now the secret about how you floated that $20,000 to Orly Taitz to settle her Georgia matter with Judge Land. Still don't know if it was a good idea to trade for dental work, but you were determined. The moral of the story: Georgia peaches, monetary fines and Foggy go together! :lol:
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After a good deal of thought I decided to kick in :twocents:

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Wait Foggy, you're not almost there? Didn't you get your pal Amy's text? “Cheese & Charcuterie should be here at 6PM and dinner around 7PM.” !!

Rolling Stone 11/21/21:
Leaked Texts: Jan. 6 Organizers Say They Were ‘Following POTUS’ Lead’
Rally planners coordinated closely with the White House before Jan. 6 and readied a dinner party while the Capitol was under siege, according to leaked group text messages obtained by Rolling Stone
By HUNTER WALKER

At 5:30 pm on Jan. 6, police were in their third hour of battle with supporters of former President Trump on the steps of the U.S. Capitol. Meanwhile, about a mile away in a suite at the Willard Intercontinental Hotel, Amy Kremer, a conservative activist who organized a major pro-Trump rally near the White House that preceded the violence, apparently had hors d’oeuvres on her mind. Kremer sent her fellow rally organizers a text preceded by three siren emojis. It was an urgent update. “We ordered dinner again tonight. Sorry, but we forgot to take orders in the chaos of the event this morning, so we just ordered the same thing as last night. I figured that was better than not eating. Lol,” Kremer wrote. “Cheese & Charcuterie should be here at 6PM and dinner around 7PM.”

An emergency curfew took effect and National Guard troops arrived at the Capitol to clear the remaining crowds at roughly the same time Kremer and her fellow organizers received their cured meats. Three sources, who spoke on the condition of anonymity due to the ongoing investigations into the rally, told Rolling Stone that, along with food, people were drinking champagne in the suite while rioters skirmished with law enforcement at the Capitol complex. Kremer’s insurrection night dinner order was detailed in a series of text messages and group chats from January 6 rally organizers that were obtained and reviewed by Rolling Stone. The messages included months of discussions as Kremer’s “March For Trump” group staged a bus tour around the country to protest the former president’s election loss. The conversations revealed new details of the rally organizers’ coordination with the Trump White House.
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Rolling Stone reviewed the text messages in a phone where they were originally received and timestamped. The messages from Amy Kremer and her daughter, Kylie Jane Kremer, came from phone numbers that have been used by both women. We are publishing excerpts of these messages as they were originally written including some typos. Kremer, who began her political career as a Tea Party activist, is the chairwoman of Women For America First, the pro-Trump organization that obtained the permit for the Ellipse rally. Kylie is the group’s executive director. Along with Women For America First, Amy Kremer was also a leader of March For Trump, a group that was launched in 2019 to protest against Trump’s first impeachment. In late November of 2020, after Trump’s loss to President Joe Biden, March For Trump began a bus tour with events around the country, where Kremer and other conservative activists promoted false conspiracy theories about the election and called for the results to be overturned. On Nov. 28, 2020, the day before the bus tour began, Kremer texted fellow activists in a group chat. “​​Welcome to the March for Trump bus tour,” Kremer wrote. “We are going to save the world!” [<<-- Note: This was the bus tour we all thought Foggy was on!]

Two days later, Kremer texted some of the organizers to let them know she was temporarily getting off the bus to travel to Washington for a White House meeting. “For those of you that weren’t aware, I have jumped off the tour for the night and am headed to DC. I have a mtg at the WH tomorrow afternoon and then will be back tomorrow night,” wrote Kremer. “Rest well. I’ll make sure the President knows about the tour tomorrow!” The message describing Kremer’s White House meeting is one of several where she and Kylie, indicated they were in communication with Trump’s team. Both Amy and Kylie Kremer did not respond to requests for comment on the record. Chris Barron, a spokesperson for the Kremers, called Rolling Stone to insist elements of this reporting are untrue. “You are printing things that are 100 percent factually untrue that we can prove are not true,” Barron said. “You are printing things that are absolutely, factually untrue and, beyond being factually untrue, for anybody who knows Amy are like hilariously preposterous.” Barron repeatedly declined to answer specific questions about which aspects of the story he wanted to dispute.

The texts reviewed by Rolling Stone reveal that on December 13, 2020, Kremer texted the group to say she was “still waiting to hear from the WH on the photo op with the bus.” On January 1, before the Ellipse rally was publicly announced, Kylie sent a message to another group chat that said she was still working on the permits and “just FYI – we still can’t tweet out about the ellipse.” “We are following POTUS’ lead,” Kylie wrote, using an abbreviation for the president. Two days later, on January 3, March For Trump activist Dustin Stockton texted one of the team’s groups to ask who was “handling” rally credentials for VIPs. “It’s a combination of us and WH,” Kylie replied. Stockton’s fiancee, Jennifer Lawrence, had a similar question when she asked a chat group where media credential requests for the Ellipse rally were going after being submitted on the group’s website. “To campaign,” Kylie responded in an apparent reference to Trump’s re-election team. “They are handling all.” Stockton and Lawrence did not respond to requests for comment on the record.

On January 3, Trump tweeted an announcement that he would be attending the Ellipse rally. Trump also retweeted posts from Lawrence and Kremer advertising the event. Some of these messages were excitedly shared in a March For Trump group chat. “Whoop whoop,” wrote Greg Locke, a Tennessee pastor who was a fixture on the bus tour. Locke added a heart, praying hands, and “100” emoji for good measure. Locke did not respond to a request for comment on record. The House Select Committee investigating the January 6 attack has subpoenaed documents and testimony from both Amy and Kylie Kremer. The pair were asked to give depositions on Oct. 29. The committee has indicated it will consider criminal contempt referrals against individuals who defy its subpoenas. A spokesperson for the committee declined to comment on whether the Kremers have complied with the subpoena. Multiple members of Trump’s inner circle — including former White House officials — have also been subpoenaed by the committee as it examines the role the former president’s team played in the events of January 6. An attorney familiar with the investigation, who spoke on the condition of anonymity due to the ongoing probe, told Rolling Stone the congressional investigators have obtained “tons of” group chats from organizers. As the big rally approached, the group chats grew even more excited. On the morning of January 5, Kremer texted the organizers and declared “we are about to be part of a pivotal and historic moment in our nation’s history.” “Thank you for taking this journey with Women For America First. I love you all and am grateful for each of you,” Kremer wrote, adding, “Let’s go save the Republic!”

But the conversations weren’t all celebratory. The group chats also revealed some of the tensions behind the scenes of the efforts to protest Trump’s election loss. Kremer and Women For America First weren’t the only ones involved in planning events to protest the election result. Another group, Stop the Steal, which was led by far right activist Ali Alexander, held its own rallies around the country and planned a “Wild Protest” outside the Capitol on January 6. Two sources who were involved in the Ellipse rally planning previously told Rolling Stone they had concerns Alexander’s event could turn violent due to his apparent ties to militia groups and its location directly outside the Capitol. Those sources claimed Alexander initially agreed he would not hold the “Wild Protest” and would allow the Ellipse rally to be the only major pro-Trump event in D.C. on January 6. The March For Trump group chat conversations hint at some of the tensions between Kremer’s group and the “Wild Protest” planners. On the 6th, the group chats indicate Kremer’s group had a dispute with Alexander over VIP seats at the Ellipse rally. “Ali trying to rearrange our women for america seats,” wrote one of the group’s volunteers. “Stop that shit,” replied Stockton. Alexander did not respond to a request for comment on record. [We covered this FEUD extensively in the Ali Alexander topic, it was a huge hoop-de-doo.}

The group chats also show some of the drama that played out within Kremer’s team. On Dec. 31, as the members of the group realized the “Wild Protest” seemed to be moving forward, Kylie posted a series of angry messages accusing the people who were riding the bus of focusing on irrelevant issues and not sufficiently appreciating the work being done to plan the Ellipse event. Kylie dismissed the “Wild Protest” as “all the people who aren’t invited or POTUS won’t be associated with.” “How do yall not get it? Seriously. Everyone needs to get off that damn bus because you are all going crazy focused on things that don’t matter.” A volunteer responded that the group’s supporters were uneasy about a lack of guidance since the Ellipse rally plans had not yet been tweeted. Kylie replied with a pair of messages noting how rare it is for events to take place on the Ellipse. She added that she was working with colleagues and “Team Trump” to get the event squared away. “I am very frustrated and feel like you guys have NO IDEA the hoops we have been jumping through 24-7 lately. Google events at the Ellipse. Send me pictures that you can find of anything other than the Christmas tree light or menorah lighting that are official WH events. THEY DONT HAPPEN,” Kylie wrote. “Y’all this has got to stop. The back and forth. If anyone doesn’t like what … team trump and I are doing then you don’t have to come to January 6th.”

There were also multiple messages indicating alcohol was a source of controversy among some of the organizers. In one group chat message on Dec. 27, 2020, Kremer admonished her daughter for drinking. “Kylie, you need to slow your roll on the wine RIGHT NOW,” Kremer wrote. “We have so much work to do and not enough time to get it done.” At another point, Kremer sent a message to the group declaring, “There will be no more drinking on this trip.” There was plenty of drinking on Jan. 6 at Kremer’s Willard suite, according to multiple sources. The text messages include a menu for a dinner for the organizers on the night before the rally. Menu options included a “Willard Burger” with truffle aioli, red wine braised Angus short rib Beef Bourguignon, steak frites, and a salmon filet with aged balsamic. Based on Kremer’s text about the charcuterie plate, she chose options from the same menu for the organizers on the evening of Jan. 6. The options in the Willard suite also included champagne that Kremer’s guests were drinking just as her organization issued a press release denouncing the violence and calling the group “saddened and disappointed.” Pam Silleman, the coordinator for the Napa Tea Party in California and one of the VIP guests invited to the event, previously told the website The Uprising, which is written by this reporter, that she drank champagne in the suite with the Kremers and other organizers after the Ellipse rally as the storming of the Capitol played on TV. A member of the March For Trump team suggested some in the suite were “totally sloshed that night.”

According to the March For Trump team member, the Kremers booked one of the nicest suites at the hotel and had a variety of special requests for staff, including fresh lightbulbs. And the team member further suggested the lavish spread at the Willard may have attracted the attention of law enforcement. “I got the call from someone at the FBI asking why I used my card at the Willard in DC. … It was an exorbitant bill. The suite they were in, it was ungodly expensive because Kylie had to have the presidential suite. That was what made her comfortable,” the March For Trump team member says. “She had to have her waffles every morning. She would check the lightbulbs at every hotel. She would have maintenance change the lightbulbs.” Another person who worked on the rally and spoke on the condition of anonymity claimed there were approximately 12 to 15 people in the suite on the evening of Jan. 6 and that it was “stocked up with wine.” “She was shitfaced that night Kylie Kremer was,” the person says.

On the morning after January 6, the group chats show some of the Ellipse rally organizers wanted to hold a press conference or make a statement denouncing the violence. Shortly before noon, Kremer replied that she felt her initial Women For America First statement was sufficient. “I don’t think it is wise for us to talk to the press or have a press conference. Our statement yesterday was strong enough and we need to leave it at that,” Kremer wrote to the group chat on January 7. “Nothing god will come from us talking to CBS or any other mainstream media outlet. I hope you guys understand and agree.”

About twenty minutes later, Kremer had another problem on her hands at the Willard. She texted the group for urgent help. “Someone pls come let me out of my bathroom,” Kremer wrote. “I’m locked in here.”
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Poor, poor Amy locked herself in the toilet!

The main funders of this were... Mike Lindell and the Publix heiress. They must have been delighted to see this story. Always wondered if you should drink red or white at an insurrection.

But gosh Foggy, look at the food and fun and atmosphere you're missing :(

PS: On your cool two cents emoji, did you see that the Twitter turkey emoji shows up in the Happy Thanksgiving topic title? Looks like they work on the board, it could be chaos! :lol:
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Appeals court order in Jan. 6 documents case may be bad news for Trump
Lawyers for all sides were told they should be prepared to address whether the court even has the legal authority to hear the dispute.

Nov. 24, 2021, 12:50 AM CET / Updated Nov. 24, 2021, 3:40 AM CET
By Pete Williams

WASHINGTON — A federal court order late Tuesday may be a worrisome sign for former President Donald Trump in his effort to assert executive privilege over documents sought by a House committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol.

The U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia notified lawyers for Trump, the House committee and the National Archives that they should be prepared to address whether the court even has the legal authority to hear the dispute. Oral arguments are scheduled for Nov. 30.



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House Select Committee Subpoenas Roger Stone; Stone Reacts by Throwing Trump Aide Katrina Pierson Under the Bus. #JusticeMatters

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I expected no less.
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This should prove interesting: https://news.yahoo.com/bannon-pushes-do ... 27868.html
Former Trump White House adviser Stephen Bannon is reportedly pushing for documents to be released in his court case on contempt-of-Congress charges, with lawyers indicating he wants to use them in his defense.

Bannon has moved to oppose a standard protective order for discovery instated by a district court judge, which prohibits either side in his case of releasing documents publicly, The Washington Post reported Thursday.

"Members of the public should make their own independent judgment as to whether the U.S. Department of Justice is committed to a just result based upon all the facts," a statement on behalf of Bannon and given to the Post read, according to the newspaper.

"In the opposition filed today, Mr. Bannon asked the judge to follow the normal process and allow unfettered access to and use of the documents," it continued.
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Jim wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2021 4:09 pm
zekeb wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2021 4:07 pm They shouldn't have been allowed to hear Dickie Nixon's tapes either. :confuzzled:
Still looking for that missing 18 minutes...

How many things do you think are EXACTLY 18 minutes and 34 seconds long?

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Flatpoint High wrote: Fri Nov 26, 2021 10:26 pm This should prove interesting: https://news.yahoo.com/bannon-pushes-do ... 27868.html
Former Trump White House adviser Stephen Bannon is reportedly pushing for documents to be released in his court case on contempt-of-Congress charges, with lawyers indicating he wants to use them in his defense.
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What is the problem? This is I understand a contempt-of-Congress case, not about the underlying hearing. What documents does he want to show publically? Keeping the documents under wrap for the time being as the lawyers sift thru them should not be a problem, how would the publication make a difference? They will be reviewed in public once the trial continues. Does he want to claim in public that the double imptus gave him immunity on the J6 subject?

PS. I think this move is just to push the proceedings further down the timeline.
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Texts Show Kimberly Guilfoyle Bragged About Raising Millions for Rally That Fueled Capitol Riot

Text messages reviewed by ProPublica represent the strongest indication yet that members of the Trump family inner circle were involved in financing and organizing the Jan. 6 “Save America” rally, which immediately preceded the Capitol riot.

by Joaquin Sapien and Joshua Kaplan
Nov. 18, 11:05 a.m. EST

Kimberly Guilfoyle, a top fundraiser for former President Donald Trump and the girlfriend of his son Donald Trump Jr., boasted to a GOP operative that she had raised $3 million for the rally that helped fuel the Jan. 6 Capitol riot.

In a series of text messages sent on Jan. 4 to Katrina Pierson, the White House liaison to the event, Guilfoyle detailed her fundraising efforts and supported a push to get far-right speakers on the stage alongside Trump for the rally, which sought to overturn the election of President Joe Biden.

Guilfoyle’s texts, reviewed by ProPublica, represent the strongest indication yet that members of the Trump family circle were directly involved in the financing and organization of the rally. The attack on the Capitol that followed it left five dead and scores injured.

A House select committee investigating the events of Jan. 6 has subpoenaed more than 30 Trump allies for testimony and documents, including Pierson and Caroline Wren, a former deputy to Guilfoyle. But Guilfoyle herself has so far not received any official scrutiny from Congress.

Guilfoyle’s attorney, Joe Tacopina, denied that Guilfoyle had anything to do with fundraising or approving speakers. He said the text from Guilfoyle “did not relate to the Save America rally” on Jan. 6 and the “content of the message itself” was “inaccurate” and “taken out of context.” He did not respond to additional questions asking about the accuracy and context of the message.

Reached by phone, Pierson declined to comment.

The text messages show that Guilfoyle expressed specific concerns that she might not be allowed to speak on stage at the Jan. 6 rally. Pierson responded that Trump himself set the speaking lineup and that it was limited to people he selected, including some of his children and Amy Kremer, a grassroots activist who organized the event.

Guilfoyle replied that she only wanted to introduce Trump Jr. and had "raised so much money for this."



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I guess we should see the texts in full but it sounds pretty straightforward from where I'm sitting.
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BREAKING: THREAD: to those who keep pushing for public testimony for the 1/6 committee & public release of documents and information pertaining to ongoing investigations: tonight’s filing by the new DC US Attorney Matthew Graves in the Bannon case explains the perils of that. 1/
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CNN reporting that J6 Committee will vote on Wednesday to refer Jeffrey Clark to DOJ for criminal contempt.
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Is anyone listening to the oral arguments in the DC Court of Appeals on the documents the National Archives has? It's very interesting.
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ALERT- House Jan 6 Cmte chair says Mark Meadows “has been engaging with the Select Committee through his attorney. He has produced records to the committee and will soon appear for an initial deposition.”
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“I will tell you what I had for breakfast and lunch but everything else is privileged!”
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Tribe is getting impatient in his dotage.
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Meadows was probably the 2nd biggest leaker in the White House when he was there with the biggest being trump himself. Remember they caught him on camera June 1 off to the side talking to reporters who immediately posted stories from unnamed source. I think he will answer their questions and possibly give some useful answers, as long as they do it behind closed doors and away from the public record.
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New Turtle wrote: Tue Nov 30, 2021 3:36 pm Meadows was probably the 2nd biggest leaker in the White House when he was there with the biggest being trump himself. Remember they caught him on camera June 1 off to the side talking to reporters who immediately posted stories from unnamed source. I think he will answer their questions and possibly give some useful answers, as long as they do it behind closed doors and away from the public record.
Well he blew off his subpoena to appear before. The Committee has info that he was using either a private or burner phone on January 6, and Meadows has such a sterling reputation for truthfulness. I am not holding my breath.
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Mark Meadows went on Stew Peters' show. :roll:







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Just heard on air via CNN, Brad Raffensberger (sp?) had a long interview with J6 committee today, like four hours.
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