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Post-Brexit immigration rules lead to collapse in EU school trips to UK
Pupils can no longer use group passports, increasing the cost and paperwork involved in travelling

Peter Foster and Andrew Jack
NOVEMBER 15 2021.

Isabelle Regiani has led class trips to the UK from her school in eastern France throughout her 22-year career as an English teacher, but she will not be bringing her students back any time soon.

Post-Brexit changes to UK immigration rules mean EU schoolchildren can no longer travel on group passports and non-EU students require expensive individual visas, putting a trip to England financially out of reach for some of Regiani’s pupils and thousands of others in mainland Europe.

Regiani’s students at Jean Jaurès middle school in Sarreguemines will instead have to settle for Calais. “It’s disappointing,” she said. “We’ll visit places in touch with English culture and we’ll have a walk on the beach in Calais and we’ll see the cliffs, and I’ll say ‘see there’s the white cliffs of Dover’.”

Large tour companies across the continent have reported a collapse in school bookings to Britain in 2022. Despite the pandemic, relative to the UK inquiries are increasing for other destinations where English is widely spoken in the EU, such as Ireland, Nordic countries and the Netherlands.

The trends bear out warnings to Boris Johnson by French and German school exchange companies last spring that the new immigration rules would erode school cultural exchanges between the EU and UK, with negative consequences for cultural exchanges that were “crucial for the future of our societies”.

Travel industry estimates suggest French and German schools alone send at least 17,000 trips to the UK each year, with French school groups’ direct input into the UK valued at £100m. The British Educational Travel Association, BETA, estimates the total value of the industry, including language schools, at £1.5bn a year.




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Brexit: British pies to be banned from EU unless ingredients come from Brussels-approved farms
New EU food safety regulation – coming into force next March – is ‘concerning’ exporters, MPs told

Rob Merrick Deputy Political Editor

Pies made in Britain will be banned from export to the EU if their ingredients do not come from an “approved” farm or factory, trade experts have warned MPs.

A new Brussels food safety regulation – to come into force in March next year – is alarming companies that fear Brexit will impose further barriers to sales, an inquiry heard.

The change will mean any ingredient of animal origin – including meat, milk and eggs – “must come from EU-approved establishments”, MPs were told.

Emily Rees, of the analysts Trade Strategies, agreed with a Conservative former trade minister who raised the threat to the exports of “chicken, ham and mushroom pies”, or fish pies, that fell foul of the rule.

“That fish pie can be consumed within Great Britain but will not be able to be sent into Northern Ireland, or exported into the EU, because you will not have the origin certificate necessary,” she said.




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based on a statement on a tv show that day

(replies in twitter thread :lol: )

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One of the replies gives additional context.

https://twitter.com/banalyst/status/1460512133775605764
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Not quite true. What he said was he’d predicted £80,000 worth of business in Germany, but has done £250 (6 bottles).

(£80,000 equates to 1920 bottles).

Still devastating for him and the country, and unnecessarily so, but important to get figures right.
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The price for direct consumer sales for a bottle of their gin to Germany was prior to Brexit around €35, now around €65.

(from other source w/o link.)
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Construction stalls as UK shortage of skilled workers bites
‘Build back better’ in jeopardy as projects are hit by delays with supply chains squeezed

William Wallis
OCTOBER 26 2021

For a straightforward home renovation in Brighton on England’s south coast, builder and architect Phil Wish had to dredge a plumber out of sick leave, press gang his brother-in-law into labouring and do the wiring himself.

His predicament speaks to the strains on the construction sector in the wake of Brexit and the exodus of European workers that has taken place during the Covid pandemic.

Builders and developers across the UK warn of an acute shortage of skilled tradespeople, including carpenters, bricklayers and plasterers, that is turning prime minister Boris Johnson’s favourite slogan, “build back better,” into something of a joke in the industry.

Building projects are stalling and wages are rising as a result of the labour squeeze, while costs are rocketing for materials caught up in the wider disruption to global supply chains.

The government’s aim of building 300,000 homes a year looks far from reach without a relaxation of migrant visas and a big domestic training push, according to industry experts.



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Tory MPs suggest sending migrants to UK to the Falklands
Conservatives are coming up with extreme ideas to placate voters angry at lack of border controls post-Brexit


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Conservative MPs are urging ministers to send people travelling to the UK by small boats to offshore centres as far away as the Falkland Islands as concern grows that the party is losing support among red wall voters.

Priti Patel, the home secretary, should also be willing to automatically return migrants to France if the party is to fulfil the Brexit promise of taking control of the UK’s borders, MPs said.

The increasingly extreme demands come amid deepening alarm in Downing Street and the Conservative party over the rising numbers of people risking their lives by making the journey in winter.

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Lee Anderson, the MP for Ashfield in Nottinghamshire, said he lobbied an immigration minister two weeks ago to say that offshore processing, where those who seek asylum are sent abroad while their cases are processed, should begin as soon as possible.
First you'd have to transport them all the way to the Falklands. Then you would have to send supplies and government workers. Can't hire local people. There are only about 3400 inhabitants and the unemployment rate is about 1%.
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The Falkland Islands is simply a brain fart. In the last day some ministers proclaimed that Albania had agreed to house "100%" of migrants for UK processing. Tha Albanian embassy in the UK had to correct this claim (worded by no other than the UK foreign minister) and correct that they had only agreed to the return of an criminal Albanians. :doh:
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The Falkland Islands natural environment is both fragile and challenging. You can't grow vegetables, for instance.
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How much would it cost to send migrants 1/4 the way around the world? Fuck sake.
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Suranis wrote: Sun Nov 21, 2021 11:20 pm How much would it cost to send migrants 1/4 the way around the world? Fuck sake.
About £10 billion - less the costs for the battle ships the Royal Navy will not be losing again. But who would build the infrastructure on the islands, think of the current supply shortages? How much will the transport cost, planes will need refilling on the way. And migrants will not be going silently. Will the UK shackle them down and blindfold them the way the US did with the Afghanistan detainees they transported from Kabul to Guantanamo?
For the United Kingdom, the war cost 258 men, 6 ships (10 others suffered varying degrees of battle damage), 34 aircraft, and £2.778 billion (£9.255 billion in 2018), but the campaign was considered a great victory for the United Kingdom.

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French fishers plan to block freight to UK in Brexit licences dispute
With talks between governments deadlocked, fishers to decide on taking their own action, reports say

Jon Henley Europe correspondent
Tue 23 Nov 2021 16.32 GMT

French fishers are set to take action within days, including blocking road and sea freight bound for the UK through Calais and other Channel ports, as a months-long dispute over licences to operate in British waters intensifies.

French media reported on Tuesday that with talks between the two governments and the European Commission over post-Brexit fishing rights seemingly deadlocked, angry fishers in northern France would decide on Thursday what steps to take.

France says the UK has unjustly denied permits to about 150 French boats, while Britain insists it is entitled to demand whatever evidence it chooses to show that French vessels have a track record of operating in the UK’s coastal waters.


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Yeah. Those who voted pro-Brexit somehow thought it would be a friendly divorce.
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UK to go dry :o
Wine and spirits firms warn of Christmas alcohol shortage in UK
Group of 48 companies say transport secretary must do more to resolve HGV driver crisis

Rob Davies
Wed 24 Nov 2021 11.13 GMT

Britain is facing a Christmas alcohol shortage unless the government does more to address the lack of HGV drivers, a group of 48 wine and spirits companies have told the transport secretary.

In a letter to Grant Shapps, businesses including Pernod Ricard, Moët Hennessy and the Wine Society said rising costs and supply chain “chaos” had held up wine and spirit deliveries, raising the risk that supermarkets will run dry and festive deliveries arrive late.

Members of the Wine and Spirit Trade Association (WSTA), which coordinated the letter, have reported it is taking up to five times longer to import products than a year ago, with two-day orders taking more than two weeks to process.

Freight costs have increased by about 7%, the WSTA said, as delivery firms have had to raise HGV drivers’ wages to retain them, causing particular difficulty for small businesses that struggle to compete on salaries with larger rivals.

Drivers and vehicles are increasingly unpredictable in their arrival times, according to WSTA members, meaning goods are either not ready or are left waiting for collection.

The drinks companies called on Shapps to extend a temporary visa scheme for HGV drivers, which expires in February 2022, to a year.

They also want the government to step in to help smooth congested freight routes from ports, and to provide more regular updates on how many HGV driver licences are being processed by the Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (DVLA).




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ETA. Similar to post by RTH10260 on the “UK” topic.

“Channel migrants: France scraps UK talks over Johnson migrants letter”:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-59428311

“France has cancelled talks with UK Home Secretary Priti Patel after Prime Minister Boris Johnson publicly called on France to take back migrants who crossed the Channel.
In an escalation of the political crisis after the deaths of 27 people in the Channel, President Emmanuel Macron said communications between leaders should not take place over Twitter.
Talks with other European states are due to take place in Calais on Sunday.
But the home secretary is not invited.“

Leaving the EU means the EU wide laws/agreements/regulations no longer apply to the UK, but it seems we want the provisions to still apply. It is troubling that none of related the BBC articles mention that the UK’s proposed policies contravene UN agreements they are party to.
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Funny how Boris Johnson suddenly wants binding agreements, and wants them asap, while he takes his time to implement the Brexit deal and the N.Ireland protocol. Is he aware that this request open the issue up to become a bargaining tool?
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When will BoJo realize he should be welcoming the migrants & training them as lorry drivers?
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RTH10260 wrote: Thu Nov 25, 2021 12:01 pm UK to go dry :o
That could get ugly!
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“If everyone fought for their own convictions there would be no war.” ― Leo Tolstoy, War and Peace
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Hint to the UK: you get much of your daily supplies thru these traffic paths
French fishermen block ports, Eurotunnel in spat with UK
French fishermen light flares as they block the entrance to the port of Saint-Malo, western France, Friday, Nov. 26, 2021. French fishing crews are threatening to block French ports and traffic under the English Channel on Friday to disrupt the flow of goods to the U.K., in a dispute over post-Brexit fishing licenses.

By Oleg Cetinic and Thomas Adamson | AP
Today at 9:52 a.m. EST


CALAIS, France — French fishing crews briefly blocked French ports, ferry traffic across the English Channel and the freight entrance to the Eurotunnel on Friday to disrupt the flow of goods to the U.K., in a protest over post-Brexit fishing licenses.

It’s the latest tension point between the neighboring countries, which are also trading blame for not doing enough to prevent the deaths of at least 27 migrants whose boat sank Wednesday off Calais, in the choppy waters of the world’s busiest shipping route.

French fishermen are angry at the British government for not granting more licenses to fish in U.K. waters — and angry at their own government for not doing more to defend them. The fishing industry is economically tiny but symbolically important for both Britain and France.

Last week in Brittany, French Sea Minister Annick Girardin announced that she was working on a compensation plan for fishermen who fail to obtain a license and who would have to cease their activity. But it left the French fisheries committees cold. Now, they are taking matters into their own hands.



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jcolvin2 wrote: Fri Nov 26, 2021 9:25 am
RTH10260 wrote: Thu Nov 25, 2021 12:01 pm UK to go dry :o
That could get ugly!
Christmas isn't Christmas without a half pint of warm Pernod offered to you by someone with the words "I don't drink myself, but I imagine you do, and it's Christmas!"
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Ryanair to drop London Stock Exchange listing to comply with EU post-Brexit rules
Low-cost carrier has struggled to shed UK-based shareholders since Britain left the bloc

Ryanair said it expected the last day of trading in its London-listed shares to be December 17

Ryanair has confirmed it will quit the London Stock Exchange next month to comply with EU ownership rules that have hit the airline industry following Brexit.

The move will end the Irish carrier’s 20-year listing on the LSE, making it one of the clearest examples of how the UK’s exit from the EU has affected London’s capital markets.

Ryanair warned earlier this month that it was considering leaving the LSE because of EU rules requiring airlines to be owned and controlled by nationals from within the bloc, Switzerland, Norway, Iceland or Liechtenstein.

The airline has barred non-EU individuals from buying shares in the company for nearly 20 years, and in January extended this to institutions and individuals in the UK after the country left the bloc.

On Friday, Ryanair said it expected the last day of trading in its London-listed shares to be December 17. Although the airline’s primary listing is on the Euronext in Dublin, London has long been a more liquid market than Dublin for its stock.




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Home Office sued by watchdog set up to protect post-Brexit rights of EU citizens
Statutory body says 2.5 million EU nationals settled in UK have been put at automatic risk of losing rights

Lisa O'Carroll Brexit correspondent
Tue 14 Dec 2021 20.26 GMT

The statutory body set up to protect the post-Brexit rights of EU citizens settled in the UK has taken the dramatic step of launching legal action against the Home Office, accusing it of breaching their basic rights.

The Independent Monitoring Authority has launched judicial review proceedings on the grounds that 2.5 million EU citizens who have been granted pre-settled status have been put at automatic risk of losing rights to live, work or rent, or being deported by the Home Office.

EU nationals and their families who have been in the UK for more than five years get settled status under the Home Office immigration scheme set up for Brexit but those who have been in the country fewer than five years get pre-settled and must apply again for settled status.

But if they do not apply before their pre-settled status expires, they automatically lose their rights and could be liable to removal from the country, something the IMA has said it considers unlawful.

The legal action is a rare move that pits a statutory body against a government department. It will be keenly watched by immigration lawyers and campaign groups who have multiple criticisms over the Home Office’s policy under which 5.6 million EU citizens applied for post-Brexit status but only 2.6 million have been granted full settled status.

“In taking legal action now we hope to provide clarity for those citizens with pre-settled status of which there are 2.485 million as of 30 November 2021,” said Kathryn Chamberlain, the IMA chief executive.

Campaign groups have protested that the Home Office system is a time bomb for the 2.5 million. They fear many may simply forget to apply for settled status when their pre-settled status expires.



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Experts warn over post-Brexit UK rule changes on chemicals
Proposals published on Defra website would change way ‘substances of very high concern’ are dealt with

Fiona Harvey Environment correspondent
Thu 16 Dec 2021 05.00 GMT

The government is planning to water down the regulatory requirements on key chemicals, in what experts fear could be the first move to a weaker post-Brexit safety regime for potentially toxic substances.

Proposals published last week without fanfare on a government website set out some of the intended new rules for the new post-Brexit national chemicals regulator. The proposals would change the way “substances of very high concern” – which include potential toxins and carcinogens, and chemicals that persist for a long time in the environment – are dealt with.

Under EU law, these chemicals are formally identified and publicly listed on a “candidate list”, while authorities analyse them and decide whether to ban them or allow their use in certain circumstances, by transferring them to an “authorisation list”. Companies must inform regulators and their supply chains when dealing with products containing these candidate list chemicals, encouraging them to use alternatives.

Under the government’s proposals, companies will not be obliged to submit information on “substances of very high concern”, but will be allowed to do so on a voluntary basis. Only chemicals likely to be transferred to the “authorisation list” would be listed on the “candidate list”, meaning a smaller number of notifiable chemicals will be analysed.




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