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A pitchfork, what every tourist carries on the trip.
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1). Insurrection does not have a very specific legal definition.
2). The FBI, run by a Trump appointee, was not involved.
3). Whether or not Ashli Babbitt was unarmed is irrelevant. She was a part of a mob that posed an imminent threat to members of Congress.
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Seriously, every time I see these arguments I wonder what they really wanted, for the officers to simply let the mob tear apart the congress critters? IIRC Mitch McConnell was one of the ones on the other side of that door. Although I suppose they were probably out for his blood, so...DrIrvingFinegarten wrote: ↑Thu Oct 21, 2021 11:54 am 3). Whether or not Ashli Babbitt was unarmed is irrelevant. She was a part of a mob that posed an imminent threat to members of Congress.
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I've had people tell me there was no intent to kill anyone. They just would have yelled at Congress critters.raison de arizona wrote: ↑Thu Oct 21, 2021 12:33 pmSeriously, every time I see these arguments I wonder what they really wanted, for the officers to simply let the mob tear apart the congress critters? IIRC Mitch McConnell was one of the ones on the other side of that door. Although I suppose they were probably out for his blood, so...DrIrvingFinegarten wrote: ↑Thu Oct 21, 2021 11:54 am 3). Whether or not Ashli Babbitt was unarmed is irrelevant. She was a part of a mob that posed an imminent threat to members of Congress.
Does that even sound believable?
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But Dr. Frankenstein, I only wanted to talk to your monster. This pitchfork? I guess I forgot to leave it at home after chores.
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They erected a gallows in front of the Capitol and chanted, "Hang Mike Pence!"DrIrvingFinegarten wrote: ↑Thu Oct 21, 2021 1:31 pmI've had people tell me there was no intent to kill anyone. They just would have yelled at Congress critters.raison de arizona wrote: ↑Thu Oct 21, 2021 12:33 pmSeriously, every time I see these arguments I wonder what they really wanted, for the officers to simply let the mob tear apart the congress critters? IIRC Mitch McConnell was one of the ones on the other side of that door. Although I suppose they were probably out for his blood, so...DrIrvingFinegarten wrote: ↑Thu Oct 21, 2021 11:54 am 3). Whether or not Ashli Babbitt was unarmed is irrelevant. She was a part of a mob that posed an imminent threat to members of Congress.
Does that even sound believable?
Imma go with no, that doesn't sound believable.
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Abusers always minimize their violent acts and intentions when they are caught.
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Maybe they were yelling "Hang my pants!" and looking for a dry cleaner.raison de arizona wrote: ↑Thu Oct 21, 2021 2:27 pmThey erected a gallows in front of the Capitol and chanted, "Hang Mike Pence!"DrIrvingFinegarten wrote: ↑Thu Oct 21, 2021 1:31 pmI've had people tell me there was no intent to kill anyone. They just would have yelled at Congress critters.raison de arizona wrote: ↑Thu Oct 21, 2021 12:33 pm
Seriously, every time I see these arguments I wonder what they really wanted, for the officers to simply let the mob tear apart the congress critters? IIRC Mitch McConnell was one of the ones on the other side of that door. Although I suppose they were probably out for his blood, so...
Does that even sound believable?
Imma go with no, that doesn't sound believable.
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That's why I find it a bit amusing that people like Qbert, Tinfoil-Greed, ect. defend these people.
That mob had one loyalty, Zee Furher, any lawmaker caught that day was dead. Period.
That mob had one loyalty, Zee Furher, any lawmaker caught that day was dead. Period.
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(The judge hearing the case about the executive-privilege claim against the Archivist.)
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If it were up to me every last one of them would get life without parole regardless of what they did after entering the Capitol.
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Where have I seem paltry sentencing for insurrection failing to safe guard society….
“ In 1923, he attempted to seize governmental power in a failed coup in Munich and was imprisoned with a sentence of five years. In jail, he dictated the first volume of his autobiography and political manifesto Mein Kampf ("My Struggle"). After his early release in 1924….“
“ In 1923, he attempted to seize governmental power in a failed coup in Munich and was imprisoned with a sentence of five years. In jail, he dictated the first volume of his autobiography and political manifesto Mein Kampf ("My Struggle"). After his early release in 1924….“
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Dave, that would be Fred Drumpf, yes?
AH, I understand. It was a famous artist.
AH, I understand. It was a famous artist.
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Maybe the reason is because there is no specific legal definition of insurrection.
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?DrIrvingFinegarten wrote: ↑Thu Oct 21, 2021 5:59 pm Maybe the reason is because there is no specific legal definition of insurrection.
https://twitter.com/DineshDSouza/status ... T8cDw&s=19
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2383
18 U.S. Code § 2383 - Rebellion or insurrection
U.S. Code
Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 808; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(L), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)
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So D'Felon is right about this one and it wasn't an insurrection?raison de arizona wrote: ↑Thu Oct 21, 2021 6:04 pm?DrIrvingFinegarten wrote: ↑Thu Oct 21, 2021 5:59 pm Maybe the reason is because there is no specific legal definition of insurrection.
https://twitter.com/DineshDSouza/status ... T8cDw&s=19
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/238318 U.S. Code § 2383 - Rebellion or insurrection
U.S. Code
Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 808; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(L), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)
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D'Souza is correct that no one has been charged with insurrection (which is a Real Crime).DrIrvingFinegarten wrote: ↑Thu Oct 21, 2021 7:01 pm So D'Felon is right about this one and it wasn't an insurrection?
That no one has been charged doesn't mean it wasn't an insurrection; it means exactly that: no one has been charged with insurrection. And there political and prosecutorial reasons for not doing so.
Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
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Suranis wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 10:27 pm Read an article about Randy Quaid a few years back, and apparently it puts the blame on the massive change in him directly onto his wife, who was a whackjob before he married her. He started going right off the rails after they got married. There was an example of a broadway show he was starring in, and the guy was well liked by everyone, and totally professional. Then she decided to hang around and she pissed off every single member of the cast and crew to the point that the whole production fell apart. She accused everyone else of plots against her and attempts to kill her while wrecking rehearsals and attacking people.
I know this sounds like "blaming a woman," but she really seems to be a full scale nut who has driven him nuts along with her.
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They had just stopped in to have a beer.Sam the Centipede wrote: ↑Thu Oct 21, 2021 5:44 pm Dave, that would be Fred Drumpf, yes?
AH, I understand. It was a famous artist.
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True Science Fact...DrIrvingFinegarten wrote: ↑Thu Oct 21, 2021 5:59 pm Maybe the reason is because there is no specific legal definition of insurrection.
No one was charged with Treason or Insurrection following the ongoing tourist event from 1861 till 1865.
Them 50,000 folks who died down the street were just in town to take in the sites.
(including 8 men of the 3rd Alabama Infantry Regiment who died in my living room.)
So anyways, does that mean we didn't have a Civil War and all those statues we're taking down are just monuments to Tour Guides?
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Because of this, it is now required that you Grunt are required to one day host this Leatherneck in your house and explain this story over glasses of scotch...
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I have a very good alibi, it was 100 years before I was born!
That I can do. Although my bottle of 50 year old, 1964 The Glenlivet is no longer with us, I can probably rustle up something.Because of this, it is now required that you Grunt are required to one day host this Leatherneck in your house and explain this story over glasses of scotch...
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Your honor - I was just stretching my arm, and her/his face got in the way.Tiredretiredlawyer wrote: ↑Thu Oct 21, 2021 2:28 pm Abusers always minimize their violent acts and intentions when they are caught.