Doesn't matter. Too many people will lap it up. He knows what to feed to the mob. There is a possibility (likelihood?) of further violence.raison de arizona wrote: ↑Thu Sep 23, 2021 3:30 pm tfg was on a tear yesterday. Apparently, not only did he win, but also two Republican Senators in GA, one in AZ, and one in MI won as well.► Show Spoiler
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Trump lost — but his lawyers say law doesn't apply to him now 'as the 45th President of the United States'
Bob Brigham
September 22, 2021
Legal experts laughed at Donald Trump's latest court filings in his battle against Twitter.
Reuters legal correspondent Brad Heath reports "Trump's lawyers told a federal court tonight that Twitter's forum-selection agreement -- which requires that he sue the company in California (not Florida, where he sued) -- does not apply to him 'as the 45th President of the United States.'"
"Trump's argument seems to be that his Twitter account was actually operated on behalf of the government, inasmuch as he made announcements about policy," he explained. "But if the court accepts the argument that Trump's Twitter account became a thing operated by and for the U.S. government, that would seem to open up the big question of why Trump, a private citizen, would have standing to sue over it."
University of Texas Law Prof. Steve Vladeck doubted the court would accept Trump's argument.
"It would be crazy enough to argue that a sitting President is somehow exempt from ordinary contract law principles simply because he's the President. But here, Trump agreed to Twitter's terms *before* he was President, and is challenging them *after.* So … good luck with that," he posted to Twitter
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21 million Americans say Biden is ‘illegitimate’ and Trump should be restored by violence, survey finds
23 septembre 2021, 14:29 CEST
Robert A. Pape
Professor of Political Science, University of Chicago
A recent Washington demonstration supporting those charged with crimes for the Jan. 6 insurrection at the U.S. Capitol fizzled, with no more than 200 demonstrators showing up. The organizers had promised 700 people would turn out – or more.
But the threat from far-right insurrectionists is not over.
For months, my colleagues and I at the University of Chicago Project on Security and Threats have been tracking insurrectionist sentiments in U.S. adults, most recently in surveys in June. We have found that 47 million American adults – nearly 1 in 5 – agree with the statement that “the 2020 election was stolen from Donald Trump and Joe Biden is an illegitimate president.” Of those, 21 million also agree that “use of force is justified to restore Donald J. Trump to the presidency.”
Our survey found that many of these 21 million people with insurrectionist sentiments have the capacity for violent mobilization. At least 7 million of them already own a gun, and at least 3 million have served in the U.S. military and so have lethal skills. Of those 21 million, 6 million said they supported right-wing militias and extremist groups, and 1 million said they are themselves or personally know a member of such a group, including the Oath Keepers and Proud Boys.
Only a small percentage of people who hold extremist views ever actually commit acts of violence, but our findings reveal how many Americans hold views that could turn them toward insurrection.
https://theconversation.com/21-million- ... nds-168359
23 septembre 2021, 14:29 CEST
Robert A. Pape
Professor of Political Science, University of Chicago
A recent Washington demonstration supporting those charged with crimes for the Jan. 6 insurrection at the U.S. Capitol fizzled, with no more than 200 demonstrators showing up. The organizers had promised 700 people would turn out – or more.
But the threat from far-right insurrectionists is not over.
For months, my colleagues and I at the University of Chicago Project on Security and Threats have been tracking insurrectionist sentiments in U.S. adults, most recently in surveys in June. We have found that 47 million American adults – nearly 1 in 5 – agree with the statement that “the 2020 election was stolen from Donald Trump and Joe Biden is an illegitimate president.” Of those, 21 million also agree that “use of force is justified to restore Donald J. Trump to the presidency.”
Our survey found that many of these 21 million people with insurrectionist sentiments have the capacity for violent mobilization. At least 7 million of them already own a gun, and at least 3 million have served in the U.S. military and so have lethal skills. Of those 21 million, 6 million said they supported right-wing militias and extremist groups, and 1 million said they are themselves or personally know a member of such a group, including the Oath Keepers and Proud Boys.
Only a small percentage of people who hold extremist views ever actually commit acts of violence, but our findings reveal how many Americans hold views that could turn them toward insurrection.
https://theconversation.com/21-million- ... nds-168359
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Hmm. There are about 333 million, so they are a tiny percent who hate on Biden? I'm supposed to care? A similar percent won't get the vax jabs.
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.06%
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When even a fractal amout of 0.06% begins to play with pipe bombs...Tiredretiredlawyer wrote: ↑Sat Sep 25, 2021 10:48 am.06%
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Also called ![Shit Hitting The Fan :hittingthefan:](./images/smilies/hittingthefan.gif)
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6%, not .06%.RTH10260 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 25, 2021 11:08 amWhen even a fractal amout of 0.06% begins to play with pipe bombs...
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About 8% of adults, which is 1 in 12.
A small percentage, but I wouldn't call it "tiny".
And it's more people than, say, the entire story population of the Scandinavian countries.
I wonder what fraction of the population of Afghanistan are genuine supporters of the Taliban?
A small percentage, but I wouldn't call it "tiny".
And it's more people than, say, the entire story population of the Scandinavian countries.
I wonder what fraction of the population of Afghanistan are genuine supporters of the Taliban?
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Alex Witt on MSNBC just had a nice long chat with Michael Cohen, I hope someone on Twitter posts clips, I do enjoy hearing his input on all things Trump. Lol, he says he has 56 more days of home detention, it's chatting with the media or Netflix ![Laughing :lol:](./images/smilies/icon_lol.gif)
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“If everyone fought for their own convictions there would be no war.” ― Leo Tolstoy, War and Peace
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21M / 333M = 6 % (you forgot to multiply by 100 to make it a percentage), still not a major fraction of the population. Not insignificant, either.Tiredretiredlawyer wrote: ↑Sat Sep 25, 2021 10:48 am.06%
In any election, there are probably that many who think that "their guy/gal" got robbed.
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Even if one the tenth of one percent of those folks was willing to commit violence to restore trump to the presidency, that’s still 21,000 people. That’s scary.noblepa wrote: ↑Sat Sep 25, 2021 2:01 pm21M / 333M = 6 % (you forgot to multiply by 100 to make it a percentage), still not a major fraction of the population. Not insignificant, either.
In any election, there are probably that many who think that "their guy/gal" got robbed.
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Thanks, noblepa! I knew was missing a step. We will blame it on migraine fatigue. ![Big Grin :biggrin:](./images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif)
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In my county right now...estimated 20,000 on hand for Zee Furher's Nuremburg rally.... ![Bored :bored:](./images/smilies/boredsmiley.gif)
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Where is he having a rally today?
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Perry, GA. Virtually my back yard.
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Hit the local coffee shop today. They have framed photos of recent presidents, including Biden. One seems to be missing …
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Mmm... let's dance.