Dr. Ken wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 2:11 pm Looks like the top two twitter accounts for the fraudit got suspended by twitter
https://twitter.com/ArizonaAudit
https://twitter.com/AuditWarRoom
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Just checked, they suspended the state by state ones too!
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Dr. Ken wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 2:11 pm Looks like the top two twitter accounts for the fraudit got suspended by twitter
https://twitter.com/ArizonaAudit
https://twitter.com/AuditWarRoom
I am trying to picture what kind of nightmarish abomination one would hand over if asked for a massive pile of splunk logs by themselves. Terabytes of csv or sql files, that they would then have to reimport into their own system and then make sense of?
And the courts. I don't know the specific tactics, but essentially the "witness" can not comply, which will (in some manner or other) raise the stakes. If the subpoena isn't dropped or otherwise resolved, one side eventually will ask a judge to control the other side.W. Kevin Vicklund wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 7:54 amThe ballot boxDave from down under wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 7:50 am Is there no state constitutional remedy to such abuse of power?
From what I understand, their current plan is to try and end run around the courts by enforcing the subpoenas at the AZ Senate level, then have the Sergeant at Arms arrest anyone that they decide isn't complying properly.bob wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 2:39 pm And the courts. I don't know the specific tactics, but essentially the "witness" can not comply, which will (in some manner or other) raise the stakes. If the subpoena isn't dropped or otherwise resolved, one side eventually will ask a judge to control the other side.
Exactly: an arrest by the Senate would be in court faster than you can say, "habeas corpus."raison de arizona wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 3:00 pm From what I understand, their current plan is to try and end run around the courts by enforcing the subpoenas at the AZ Senate level, then have the Sergeant at Arms arrest anyone that they decide isn't complying properly.![]()
But yeah, seems like MCBOS and Dominion would take that to a real court.
One could have fun with following their exact wording: splunk logs - in my interpretation are logs created by the splunk package itself. On the other hand I now understand that Splunk is also an analysis tool that can look at data emanating from various kinds of non-splunk log files. I guess that following the exact wording not much remains to be available to the brainy ninjas. I hope the AZ Congress car park access control does keep a spunk log - barrier opens - barrier closes - barrier...neeneko wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 2:38 pmI am trying to picture what kind of nightmarish abomination one would hand over if asked for a massive pile of splunk logs by themselves. Terabytes of csv or sql files, that they would then have to reimport into their own system and then make sense of?
Hrm.. actually,.. that sounds kinda fun.
Ha! I never even considered that interpretation. Yeah, splunk itself has its own log, which would be terribly funny to supply them.
Sigh. Karen, MCBOS gave you every damn thing they were ordered to provide!!!!!!raison de arizona wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:26 pm
Just to be clear, Randy Pullen is a Republican Party activist who is a former Chairman of the Arizona Republican Party. Hardly an impartial auditor.
http://arizonaspolitics.blogspot.com/20 ... -hold.htmlBREAKING: County Supervisors To Hold Special Meeting Wednesday To Discuss Response To Senate's "Audit" Subpoena (READ Subpoena)
The Maricopa County Board of Supervisors will hold a special meeting tomorrow to discuss their response to the latest election audit-related subpoena from some Republican Senators.
At the 9am executive session, the Republican-dominated Supervisors will get legal advice from the (Republican) County Attorney's Office on several related matters: (1) compliance with the subpoena (below), (2) election administration and equipment, (3) "election-related public records requests", and (4) "election-related litigation". The two currently-active lawsuits related to public records requests do not involve Maricopa County, so the last two topics would appear to be forward-looking and/or requests that are not yet in the public sphere.
The new subpoena issued yesterday repeats some of the demands made in the previous one. Maricopa County turned over ballots, machines, voter registration records and more then, and that led to the recount/"audit" which began in April. The County did not turn over some items then, and the Senate has not tried to enforce compliance.
The new subpoena, signed by Senate President Karen Fann and Judiciary Committee Chair Warren Peterson, demands compliance by next Monday (August 2).
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[url=https://ktar.com/story/4594636/maricopa ... uters/amp/]Maricopa County officials[url] are weighing their response to a new subpoena from Arizona Senate Republican leaders over items related to the 2020 election, but it appears they will resist handing over network routers.
“We just received this late yesterday,” Supervisor Bill Gates, one of four Republicans on the five-member board that governs the county, told KTAR News 92.3 FM’s Arizona’s Morning News in his first of two Tuesday morning interviews with the station.
“So we’ll convene as a body, will meet with our attorneys, go over this. If there are reasonable requests in here, of course we will turn those over.”
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“We will respond in some way,” Gates told KTAR News’ The Mike Broomhead Show.
Senate President Karen Fann and Judiciary Committee Chairman Warren Petersen issued the subpoena, listing envelopes from all mail-in ballots or images of them, network routers and traffic logs, detailed voter registration records with change histories, and records related to security breaches of election systems.
Citing security concerns, the county has denied previous requests for the routers, which are used by multiple agencies, including the Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office.
Gates said he hasn’t changed his stance on the devices.
“If there’s a determination that turning over these routers is going to threaten the safety of law enforcement, and it would be turning over personal information, as one supervisor, that’s where I draw the line,” he told Broomhead.
“If they go back to court — I would never try and guess what a judge is going to rule — but I imagine the judge would say … ‘The ball’s in your court, you’ve got to determine how to get these documents and other materials from the board of supervisors,’” Gates told Broomhead.
Before the judge ruled in the Senate’s favor in February, the Senate failed in an effort to hold the county supervisors in contempt over their lack of compliance, which could have landed them behind bars.
Sen. Paul Boyer was the sole Republican to vote against the contempt resolution, joining the Senate’s 14 Democrats and creating a 15-15 tie.
Another contempt effort seems unlikely to succeed because not only is the Legislature out of session, but at least one other GOP senator, Michele Ugenti-Rita, has joined Boyer in publicly denouncing the audit proceedings.
“Sadly, it’s now become clear that the audit has been botched,” Ugenti-Rita, a 2022 candidate for Arizona secretary of state, tweeted over the weekend. “The total lack of competence by @FannKfann over the last 5 months has deprived the voters of Arizona a comprehensive accounting of the 2020 election.”
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In a sign the Senate audit, which was supposed to be only about the 2020 election results, is now expanding in scope, Senate President Karen Fann now wants documents from Secretary of State Katie Hobbs.
In a public records request, the Prescott Republican is demanding any communications Hobbs has had with anyone about the audit and the litigation it has produced. And Fann is casting a wide net, seeking not just messages with federal, state and local officials but also political parties, volunteers, consultants, vendors, formal or informal advisors, fundraisers and the media.
“I can’t disclose what we’re looking for at this time,” Fann told Capitol Media Services, including how any of what she wants fits into the Senate’s need to investigate the election conduct and results as part of its duties to review existing laws and craft new ones.
The move comes as Hobbs, a Democrat, has publicly accused the auditors of “making it up as they go along,” and saying she has no confidence in whatever is produced by Cyber Ninjas, the firm Fann hired to conduct the review.
For the moment, Hobbs aide Murphy Hebert said her boss, is reviewing the request.
"At this point it appears to be the kind of nebulous fishing expedition that we’ve come to expect from the Senate president,” she said. And Hebert called it “ironic” that this comes even as Fann has hired outside counsel to fight requests for public records about the audit, “including who’s actually funding the partisan ballot review.”
The development comes as former Secretary of State Ken Bennett, who was Fann’s initial choice as her liaison with Cyber Ninjas, said he has been locked out of the Veterans Memorial Coliseum over a dispute about information he provided to outsiders.
Meanwhile, Randy Pullen, whom Fann also tapped to work with the auditors, said the final counting of the ballots was completed Tuesday. He said they are being packed up for return to Maricopa County.
Pullen said a report on the audit could be prepared by the middle of August.![]()
But all that depends on what new information is obtained from the county. And that goes to Fann’s separate decision to now issue new — and long expected — subpoenas to the county supervisors for items that Cyber Ninjas contends is necessary for it to complete its work.
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The subpoena also wants up-to-date voter records along with notations of any changes made. That goes to allegations by Cyber Ninjas that there is evidence some people were permitted to vote who had not registered by the deadline.
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All this could pave the way for a new round of litigation about the extent of the ability of Fann to demand whatever she says is necessary for the Senate to investigate the 2020 election.
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A slightly more blunt version by Ice Cube. Always know who yer effing with.northland10 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 7:45 pm I found a video of Karen and Logan along with a chorus of RW noise machines.
I picture them announcing something like 'we found logs for packets from 10.x.y.z addresses, and happend to know this OTHER network also uses 10.x.y.z address, so the two are clearly communicating! There must a VPN tunnel they are not disclosing, otherwise why would we be asking for it?'Shizzle Popped wrote: ↑Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:02 am These idiots will post it online trying to prove some point about something they don't understand and there goes my network security.