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They will need to think long and hard because they were losing elections because of their policies.
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AndyinPA wrote: Sat Oct 05, 2024 11:17 pm They will need to think long and hard because they were losing elections because of their policies.
They should steal Ronald Reagan's campaign slogan: Let's Make America Great Again
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AndyinPA wrote: Sat Oct 05, 2024 11:17 pm They will need to think long and hard because they were losing elections because of their policies.
:torches: NO NO NO NO!!! It's the filthy liberals perverting the system and lying when we know everybody, yes everybody, agrees with us!

Seriously, it will require a major paradigm shift for them to understand that most good people dislike their horrible policies and antisocial attitudes.

As to "think long and hard" … yeeeaaahhh … see a problem with that?
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:lol:
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I hate that, relatively speaking, I now consider Liz Cheney one of the good guys.
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Slim Cognito wrote: Sun Oct 06, 2024 12:07 pm I hate that, relatively speaking, I now consider Liz Cheney one of the good guys.
"Relatively" carries a weighty burden in that sentiment. It feels your pain.
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/gove ... bb2ac&ei=8

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Trump then added, "She’s a Warmonger of low intelligence. All she wants to do is kill people in 'Endless Wars,' with no gain other than to defense companies. Liz Cheney, Cryin’ Adam Kinzinger, Bennie Thompson, and the rest of these dishonest Thugs have gotten away with horrible things under the pretense of January 6th. Nancy Pelosi refused to accept the help which was offered for security. She is responsible, and admitted as much, for all to see, on her daughter’s tape. They have destroyed the lives of many people, and are rewarded by getting Biden Fake Medals. This is not America. January 20th cannot come fast enough. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!"

On Friday afternoon, Cheney issued a terse response.

"Donald, this is not the Soviet Union. You can’t change the truth and you cannot silence us. Remember all your lies about the voting machines, the election workers, your countless allegations of fraud that never happened? Many of your lawyers have been sanctioned, disciplined or disbarred, the courts ruled against you, and dozens of your own White House, administration, and campaign aides testified against you. Remember how you sent a mob to our Capitol and then watched the violence on television and refused for hours to instruct the mob to leave? Remember how your former Vice President prevented you from overturning our Republic? We remember."
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Liz received a standing "O" when Biden presented her the President's Citizenship Medal. A well deserved one at that
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Flatpoint High wrote: Fri Jan 03, 2025 9:42 pm Liz received a standing "O" when Biden presented her the President's Citizenship Medal. A well deserved one at that
At about 9:30 in this video. You can't see the crowd stand but heads pop into the screen. She looks a bit embarrassed by it all.
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Mrich wrote: Fri Jan 03, 2025 9:58 pm
Flatpoint High wrote: Fri Jan 03, 2025 9:42 pm Liz received a standing "O" when Biden presented her the President's Citizenship Medal. A well deserved one at that
At about 9:30 in this video. You can't see the crowd stand but heads pop into the screen. She looks a bit embarrassed by it all.
https:// www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhv9QGV6as0
Thank you for posting this before I had a chance to search for it. A well deserved. medal.
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Agreed. Like our Founders, she pledged her "Fortunes and our sacred Honor." and I believe we need to revisit the Declaration of Independence, as there are a lot of quite unsettling parallels. https://www.archives.gov/founding-docs/ ... transcript
Declaration of Independence: A Transcription

Note: The following text is a transcription of the Stone Engraving of the parchment Declaration of Independence (the document on display in the Rotunda at the National Archives Museum.) The spelling and punctuation reflects the original.
In Congress, July 4, 1776

The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America, When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.--Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.

He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.

He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.

He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.

He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected; whereby the Legislative powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.

He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.

He has obstructed the Administration of Justice, by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary powers.

He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.

He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.

He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.

He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil power.

He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:

For Quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:

For protecting them, by a mock Trial, from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:

For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of Trial by Jury:

For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences:

For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies:

For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws, and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:

For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.

He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.

He has plundered our seas, ravaged our Coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.

He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.

He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.

He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages, whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.

In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.

Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our Brittish brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which, would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends.

We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these United Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States; that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor
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For all his wanting her and others prosecuted for the commission I suspect he won't be able get his administration to move on it. Speech and Debate clause is a bitch.

I'm waiting for the great "Constitutionalists" to show their true colors by ignoring the Constitution they claim to adore.
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northland10 wrote: Sat Jan 04, 2025 3:02 pm For all his wanting her and others prosecuted for the commission I suspect he won't be able get his administration to move on it. Speech and Debate clause is a bitch.

I'm waiting for the great "Constitutionalists" to show their true colors by ignoring the Constitution they claim to adore.
Those types read the Constitution like they read the Bible. Nobody picks everything when standing in line at a cafeteria, do they?
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:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:


David Clements, an attorney for Jan. 6 riot defendant Jacob Lang, demanded that the government seize the assets of former Rep. Liz Cheney (R-WY) to be used as "restitution" for those who were charged with participating in the Capitol attack.

At a Monday news conference on the fourth anniversary of Jan. 6, Clements pleaded with President-elect Donald Trump to pardon his client, who remains in prison awaiting trial.

"We want restitution," Clements said. "There's ways to go about getting restitution. Everyone on the unselect committee is actually guilty... When you look at obstruction, real obstruction, when you apply the black letter law, the Liz Cheney's of the world violated that statute."

The attorney called for Cheney's arrest and said that there "should be civil asset forfeiture and assets should be taken, and that should be the money that's used to make you all whole."

Finally, he asked Congress to pass a law making Jan. 6 defendants a protected class like race, sex, and religion.

"There needs to be a law that protects the J6ers as a protected class so they cannot be discriminated against in the job market," Clements explained. "There's going to be a lot of woke, leftist, radical Marxists that are going to punish you."

"So I propose that there's a law that treats the J6ers as a protected class, that you can't discriminate against them, or there will be legal penalties for that," he said. "This is just the beginning."
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Volkonski wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2025 7:07 pm :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

"So I propose that there's a law ."

I propose a law that says go fuck yourself.
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They won't have a filibuster-proof majority, right?
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Slim Cognito wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2025 8:03 pm They won't have a filibuster-proof majority, right?
I doubt they would have enough votes anyway. While some of the Dumbass Caucas will push for it, there will be enough GOP folks who are not interested in giving up their constitutional protections, like the speech and debate clause. They don't want the tables turned on them later on.
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Slim Cognito wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2025 8:03 pm They won't have a filibuster-proof majority, right?
No; the current Senate is 52 Republicans; 48 Democrat (-ic caucus members); 1 vacancy (until January 13; R-WV).
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