Right Wing Low Lifes

[Mrich]

There are a bunch of tweets - some deleted but there are screen shots - of people making fun of this young man who was overwhelmed by the love expressed by and to his father. I thought it was sweet (and I had no idea he is on the spectrum). What is wrong with people?

[RVInit]

There are a bunch of tweets - some deleted but there are screen shots - of people making fun of this young man who was overwhelmed by the love expressed by and to his father. I thought it was sweet (and I had no idea he is on the spectrum). What is wrong with people?

I couldn't agree with you more. In real time as I watched him I was moved by his response. When he started saying "that's my dad, that's my dad" I have to say I almost cried myself, it was one of the most touchingly beautiful things I have witnessed, especially at a political convention.

[MN-Skeptic]

There's been plenty of push back towards the people criticizing Gus for his reaction, most of the supporters citing his challenges. But I liked one tweet which said No, don't say it's all right because of Gus's challenges. Say it's all right because it's all right for EVERYONE to react like that! Every man, woman, and child should be allowed to get emotional when the situation calls for it.

[RVInit]

There's been plenty of push back towards the people criticizing Gus for his reaction, most of the supporters citing his challenges. But I liked one tweet which said No, don't say it's all right because of Gus's challenges. Say it's all right because it's all right for EVERYONE to react like that! Every man, woman, and child should be allowed to get emotional when the situation calls for it.

I agree! I had no idea that he is neurodivergent until today when someone linked an article about it. I did not in any way think anything "different" about him or about his reaction while I was watching it. I thought it beautiful and touching, period.

[Suranis]

Its possible they just saw the photo and not the video of the incident. I have not seen the video, and that photo makes him looks pretty rediculous.

And that's probably why that photo was carefully chosen to be the one shared around the Intertubes. These guys are very good at their lying.

So I would just say to people have a look at the full video of when he said that and you will come away with a different impression.

I know you will say "why are you talking about this if you haven't seen the video" and I would counter that makes me well qualified to talk about what someone who has NOT seen the video and is ONLY reacting to that photo would think. Not everyone is watching every detail of the DNC, you know. So you have to step back a touch and see it from the other direction a little. If you have just seen the photo with no other context, what would you think?

[Reddog]

Its possible they just saw the photo and not the video of the incident. I have not seen the video, and that photo makes him looks pretty rediculous ridiculous.

If you have just seen the photo with no other context, what would you think?

No other context, hmm… I may think a lot of things. Ridiculous, or weird isn’t one of them. I would think it is a normal reaction to a father he loves, making an emotional speech.
I may think that someone cherry picked a photo to stir people, too effen lazy to research what they are seeing, to make a snap judgement.
What’s bizarre to me is defending another person without an iota of context in what they were thinking. I may think that I’ve seen waaay more ridiculous photos of people at a convention, sporting event, Thanksgiving dinner, or any number of Norman Rockwell paintings.
I may think it’s a great representation of sheer raw emotion.
I always thought Politicians minor children have historically been off limits.
I may think you’re still weird for rationalizing an assholes tasteless whatever they call a tweet now .

[Suranis]

I'm not "rationalising" one asshole's tweet. I'm "rationalising" why people might believe this particular picture makes the person look ridiculous, particularly if its framed in a bubble of "All democrats are bad" like this one is. Remember they said that they have seen this pic being shown by a lot of people which means this pic is being shared around now as part of an organised program of slander.

You know, like Obama's tan Suit.

[Reddog]

I'm not "rationalising" one asshole's tweet. I'm "rationalising" why people might believe this particular picture makes the person look ridiculous, particularly if its framed in a bubble of "All democrats are bad" like this one is. Remember they said that they have seen this pic being shown by a lot of people which means this pic is being shared around now as part of an organised program of slander.

You know, like Obama's tan Suit.

Nope, you’re still wrong, and wronger now. You’re reframing your argument. It’s like playing whack-a-mole

I’m not sure why you’re putting scare quotes around rationalizing. I used it as I meant it.

To dismiss or minimize the significance of (something) by means of an explanation or excuse.
The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, 5th Edition •

You gave a reason to excuse the plethora of right wing pundits mocking him.

Its possible they just saw the photo and not the video of the incident. I have not seen the video, and that photo makes him looks pretty rediculous.

ridiculous? To me it’s rediculous ridiculous what you consider ridiculous.

There was no excuse to mock Tim Walz’s son.
I don’t know what the tan suit has to do with anything.

[keith]

Language Warning:

[Reddog]

Thanks Keith,
I couldn’t have said it any better!

[Suranis]

There was no excuse to mock Tim Walz’s son.

I wasn't mocking Tim Waltz son.

Get that out of your head and try rereading what I was actually writing about.

People asked why they would think that's ridiculous, and I answered them - that they are being shown the worst photo the opposition could find. That photo was framed as "ridiculous."

It's basic social media manipulation. If you are finding that thought uncomfortable then ya you have likely been manipulated by similar tricks in the past by people "on your side"

I don’t know what the tan suit has to do with anything.

They said that Obama's tan suit looked unpresidential when it wasn't and turned it into a media storm. Just another example of turning something fairly normal into a massive liability, just by framing the conversation everyone is having around it.

I could try this with diagrams if you want, but at this point I'm done explaining the obvious.

[Uninformed]

I think Suranis made a valid point. I do think that he seems to have an ability to sometimes use phrasing that provokes an adverse reaction to his otherwise interesting, and often helpfully informative, posts. Over the years he has honestly stated opinions that others may disagree with, so what? I see no malice in his statements.

Yes people should not judge a person on a single still image or a video clip showing what some will see as an overly emotional reaction, but the simple fact is there are many many people who will do just that. We’re talking about people who amongst other totally ridiculous opinions declare tfg does not lie and expect them to research or fact check anything?

I first saw a short video clip without any real context and was surprised (the right word?) by the emotion shown. I knew nothing of Governor Walz’s son Gus before this occurrence and still know almost nothing about him. I found his public show of love and pride very moving - if only everyone had someone who felt the same about them.

[RTH10260]

A white supremacist told me to comply to his demands. He's now in custody.

NewsChannel 5
21 Aug 2024

He warned me there would be consequences if I failed to comply with his demands to air a white supremacist video. Now, that man faces his own consequences.

[bill_g]

[Dave from down under]

[RVInit]

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[northland10]

It has been in development since 2019, so it may have been nearing its leap into development hell and Hogan just pushed it over the edge.

[MN-Skeptic]

I think people are just assuming that Hogan's actions caused the film's demise. Todd Phillips, the film director, merely said "I love what we were trying to do, but that’s not going to come together for me."

[RVInit]

Proud Boys Leader Jason Lee Van Dyke's deposition in a lawsuit regarding threats he made to an individual. Van Dyke is a lawyer. His license to practice was suspended at least once.

[northland10]

Proud Boys Leader Jason Lee Van Dyke's deposition in a lawsuit regarding threats he made to an individual. Van Dyke is a lawyer. His license to practice was suspended at least once.

I looked at his bio at his firm.. um. Pass.

https://www.maganavandyke.com/our-firm/jason-van-dyke

[RVInit]

Proud Boys Leader Jason Lee Van Dyke's deposition in a lawsuit regarding threats he made to an individual. Van Dyke is a lawyer. His license to practice was suspended at least once.

I looked at his bio at his firm.. um. Pass.

https://www.maganavandyke.com/our-firm/jason-van-dyke

He's the idiot general counsel for the Proud Boys. I think he's the one that eventually denounced his involvement with them. The guy who was suing him won a judgement against this guy for stalking and harassing him. Van Dyke's law license was suspended for 1 year. In the end I think it was only suspended for 3 months, then the suspension was "suspended" for the remainder of the year as long as he met certain requirements.

Thomas Retzlaff is the guy who sued Van Dyke and this deposition was for that lawsuit. Retzlaff was also a right wing nutjob. Retzlaff was subsequently murdered and Van Dyke says he celebrated the murder with a steak dinner. As far as I know the murder has never been solved. The Proud Boys turned out to be somehow beneath Van Dyke, but he went on to become general counsel for the Patriot Front.

https://images.law.com/contrib/content/ ... ov.-22.pdf

[chancery]

Not sure if this is the correct thread. Do we have one for "nice-looking next-door mainstream rightwingers behaving badly"?

https://balloon-juice.com/2024/09/16/ne ... d-my-beer/

From the Balloon Juice blog, reformatted and lightly edited.

New Hampshire School System Says ‘Hold My Beer’

Is there a word for ‘Hateful and Petty to the 10th Power”?

One of our BJ peeps wrote to tell me about a ‘lovely’ school in New Hampshire. In his words:

We are infested with libertarians and MAGA, I’m sure this sounded good in their bubble (the town in question is generally conservative), but when exposed to the more rational part of the electorate it shows how mean and nasty the right has become

Heres’ the story as I understand it:

Some families had unpaid bills for school lunches

A local church offered to pay off the bills for school lunches

The school system sues the families instead

When this made the news, it didn’t go so well for the school system in the court of public opinion

And apparently the school system is surprised?

After rejecting an offer from a local church to pay off all student lunch debt, Goffstown School District Business Administrator Scott Gross is instead taking families to court.

These people are monsters:

• Gross said he was concerned the gift would lead to more families not paying for student lunches, according to Wells.

• One of the arguments against St. Matthew’s helping that Gross raised with Wells last year, is that some of the families don’t qualify under the guidelines as poor and should therefore be made to pay.

• A blanket gift for all the debt would be helping people who did not deserve the assistance.

But for Wells, that’s not the point. He cited Catholic author and activist Dorothy Day who said, “The Gospel takes away our right forever to discriminate between the deserving and the undeserving poor.”

I am reminded of my favorite line in the song Eve of Destruction: Hate your next door neighbor, but don’t forget to say grace.

Jesus wept.

[bill_g]

The teachings of Republican Jesus.

[sad-cafe]

[bill_g]

Oh yeah. Total Floriduh husband material. Charmer.