Assault on the Capitol (DC)

[Ben-Prime]

There was some footage released over the weekend, it was of Pelosi and others in Congress trying to find out if someone called in The Guard and what was their ETA. They were getting the runaround from the DC Guard.

So despite what they’re saying she said “in her own words!” she didn’t really say she was responsible for the lack of security?

Yes.

If someone says, "Call the police," that doesn't mean they have the authority to tell the police what to do.

To be fair, Bob, the kinds of folks that would hold that call against Pelosi are also in the subset of folks who WOULD tell a cop "I pay your salary!"

[bob]

To be fair, Bob, the kinds of folks that would hold that call against Pelosi are also in the subset of folks who WOULD tell a cop "I pay your salary!"

To go a step further, people may ignore a request from a powerful member of Congress at their peril.

But even a demand is not an order.

[MN-Skeptic]

Josh Gerstein
@joshgerstein

JUST IN: Lawsuit Ashli Babbitt's family filed over her shooting by Capitol Police officer during Capitol Riot ordered transferred from San Diego to DC over family's objection. Doc:

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap ... 8.14.1.pdf

[neonzx]

WTHeck does San Diego have to do with her criming in DC??
Her whole family is dumb as a box of rocks.

[noblepa]

WTHeck does San Diego have to do with her criming in DC??
Her whole family is dumb as a box of rocks.

If I had to guess, I would speculate that her family (the ones filing the lawsuit) live in southern California and decided it was easier to file there.

I know that, for a federal crime allegation, the trial must be held where the crime is alleged to have been committed, unless the court finds a reason for a change of venue.

It that true for a civil case, such as this?

ETA: I just read the first few sections of the ruling. If I understand correctly, and this is probably a gross oversimplification, the judge is saying that the lawsuit could have been brought either in San Diego, where the plaintiff lives or in Washington, where the defendant is. It seems that the deciding factor for the judge was that the actions or inaction in question unquestionably occurred in DC, that is the proper venue.

[northland10]

Interesting. The plaintiff's attorney is a member of the California and NY bar, but the address given on the docket is Judicial Watch in DC.

I have a hunch this is a JW hobby horse case with a client willing to sign on. I would not be surprised if it was dismissed early on.

The attorney is Robert Patrick Sticht.

[raison de arizona]

Interesting. The plaintiff's attorney is a member of the California and NY bar, but the address given on the docket is Judicial Watch in DC.

I have a hunch this is a JW hobby horse case with a client willing to sign on. I would not be surprised if it was dismissed early on.

The attorney is Robert Patrick Sticht.

A few words on Sticht: https://www.realbadlawyers.com/tag/robe ... ck-sticht/

[raison de arizona]

Jan. 6 Prisoners Recorded A Podcast From Jail With A Camera Someone ‘Accidentally’ Gave Them

Some of the people who were convicted for their actions during the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol have insisted the unit where they were held before sentencing in the Washington D.C. jail is an abusive “gulag.” It’s also ground zero for a burgeoning media empire that appears to violate jail policy and features broadcasts starring people who were convicted for their role in storming the Capitol as former President Trump’s loss in the 2020 election was being certified.

A pair of the so-called “J6ers” have hosted a “DC Gulag podcast” where they have interviewed their fellow inmates while promoting various aspects of their agenda including false conspiracy theories about the 2020 vote and the idea they are waging a noble political struggle. Despite the obvious issues with these claims, hero worship of the people who attacked the Capitol has become a persistent feature of MAGA politics. And, thanks to an unusual setup, some of the prisoners themselves are embracing that spotlight.

Inmates are generally restricted from accessing the internet and communicating with the outside world, a situation that has raised questions for years about how to properly balance security concerns and freedom of speech. In their premiere episode, which was released earlier this month and filmed last year, one of the podcast hosts, Jonathan Mellis, now an inmate at FCI Ashland in Kentucky, explained how they were able to get their unique show online.

“What I think the establishment didn’t count on is us being able to have laptops to view our discovery that accidentally have a camera attached to it so that we can actually get to know some of us while we’re in here,” Mellis explained.

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/jan- ... -gave-them

[raison de arizona]

Huh. That doesn't make any sense. Whyever would SCOTUS want to make it more difficult to prosecute folks that participate in an insurrection, right at same the time tfg is saying he won't accept the results unless he wins?

The most important story of the week was the fact that the US Supreme Court undercut one of DOJ's main tools in prosecuting Jan. 6 insurrectionists at the same time Donald Trump took to a debate stage and refused to commit to accepting the result of the 2024 election.

[raison de arizona]

[raison de arizona]

tfg's pardon list of J6 hostages

DC - Community Safety Alert
J6er, Brandon Fellows who lives in Eckington in a MAGA group house called the “ Eagle’s Nest” (yes like Hitler) is is BRAGGING on Twitter about PUNCHING WOMEN at local bars.

He just got out of prison and is on probation. Incident happened at Del Mar DC at @TheWharfDC @WashProbs @PoPville[/quote

[Rolodex]

So this J6er just pulled 20 years. He had some troubles earlier - bear spraying a protester got him 2 year probation. But get this: he assaulted not once but TWICE! counterprotesters using a skateboard. Miraculously, he was not shot for hitting someone with a skateboard.

WASHINGTON — A Donald Trump supporter who stood in front of a gallows and spoke of his desire to hang Democratic politicians before he assaulted numerous police officers during the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol was sentenced to 20 years in federal prison Friday.

It's among the longest sentences handed out in a Jan. 6 case to date.


Prosecutors had sought more than 21 years (262 months) for David Dempsey, saying he "viciously" assaulted law enforcement officers at the lower west tunnel of the Capitol, where some of the worst violence took place that day. According to prosecutors, Dempsey climbed over fellow rioters "like human scaffolding" and used "his hands, feet, flag poles, crutches, pepper spray, broken pieces of furniture, and anything else he could get his hands on" as weapons against police officers.

"Dempsey was one of the most violent rioters, during one of the most violent stretches of time, at the scene of the most violent confrontations at the Capitol on January 6, 2021," prosecutors wrote in their sentencing memo.

Dempsey, who prosecutors say is a former construction worker and fast-food employee with a "very significant history of arrests and convictions," was identified with the help of online sleuths who have aided the FBI in hundreds of cases against Jan. 6 rioters. Federal prosecutors say that in addition to assaulting anti-Trump protesters with bear spray in 2019, resulting in a two-year suspended sentence, he previously assaulted a counterprotester with a skateboard in a separate incident in 2019, used the same skateboard to assault another person at a political protest in 2020 and hit a person with a metal bat during another 2020 protest.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justic ... rcna165209

[neonzx]

So this J6er just pulled 20 years. He had some troubles earlier - bear spraying a protester got him 2 year probation. But get this: he assaulted not once but TWICE! counterprotesters using a skateboard. Miraculously, he was not shot for hitting someone with a skateboard.

Buh-bye. See you in 20.

[Resume18]

Hey Dempsey, if you're holding out for a Trump pardon, don't do it while holding your breath, for you will turn purple.

[Suranis]

When your filtered portrait makes you look like a Weird Al Yankovick parody it might be time to change your look.

[Dr. Ken]

[Dr. Ken]

[pipistrelle]

This guy became a cop after Jan. 6.

https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/nati ... d8ae606894

[DrIrvingFinegarten]

How many people in the mob need to have guns for the mob to be considered armed? And do the guns need to be fired?

If someone says the mob was unarmed and I provide evidence of someone in the mob with a weapon and they pivot to “It takes a lot more than just one gun” or “Nobody used their gun” how is that not moving the goalposts?

Am I being silly to insist that the presence of one unused gun is enough for a mob of thousands to be considered armed?

[Dave from down under]

Doesn’t have to be a gun to be an armed mob.

Point them to

18 U.S. Code § 930 - Possession of firearms and dangerous weapons in Federal facilities

The term “dangerous weapon” means a weapon, device, instrument, material, or substance, animate or inanimate, that is used for, or is readily capable of, causing death or serious bodily injury, except that such term does not include a pocket knife with a blade of less than 2½ inches in length.

[Suranis]

I have had more than a few arguments with idiots who refused to admit "armed with a Knife" is valid English when it comes to that crowd. So, yes, "armed mob" is very accurate, even if they were armed with sticks.

[pipistrelle]

I have had more than a few arguments with idiots who refused to admit "armed with a Knife" is valid English when it comes to that crowd. So, yes, "armed mob" is very accurate, even if they were armed with sticks.

That's why the whole "just tourists" line is almost laughable. Tourists armed with bear spray, knives, flagpoles, bicycle racks, zip ties, the usual tourist stuff.

[northland10]

I have had more than a few arguments with idiots who refused to admit "armed with a Knife" is valid English when it comes to that crowd. So, yes, "armed mob" is very accurate, even if they were armed with sticks.

That's why the whole "just tourists" line is almost laughable. Tourists armed with bear spray, knives, flagpoles, bicycle racks, zip ties, the usual tourist stuff.

I've been a tourist armed with bear spray, a knife in the form of a Leatherman, and a pole. Granted, I was the mountains of Montana. The pole was a walking stick.

[DrIrvingFinegarten]

I have had more than a few arguments with idiots who refused to admit "armed with a Knife" is valid English when it comes to that crowd. So, yes, "armed mob" is very accurate, even if they were armed with sticks.

And even if it were just a fraction of people in the mob who had the weapons?

[Dave from down under]

It’s still an armed mob.

It doesn’t matter how many or how few.

What they did was attack police protecting the capitol.

They were a mob

They were armed

They not only had those weapons but they used them on the police.

If you need an analog… the getaway driver for a hit man..
Or at a lynching where only one person ties the rope but everyone else is they to have it happen.

Poor scorn on the apologists!