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well, will he be remanded after his alleged violation of the Logan Act?
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I don't think anyone in the history of forever has ever been tried for a Logan Act violation.

And so I went to look for the facts, and indeed, no one ever has been on trial for violating the Act which was enacted in 1799.
Only two indictments have ever been handed up under the Logan Act, both in the 19th century. The first occurred in 1803 when a grand jury indicted Francis Flournoy, a Kentucky farmer, who had written an article in the Frankfort Guardian of Freedom under the pen name of "A Western American". In the article, Flournoy advocated for the creation of a new independent state, not part of the US, in North America that would ally with France. The United States Attorney for Kentucky, an Adams appointee and brother-in-law of Chief Justice John Marshall, went no further than procuring the indictment of Flournoy, and there was no further prosecution of him. The purchase of the Louisiana Territory later that year appeared to cause the separatism issue to become moot, and the case was abandoned.[2]

In 1852, Jonas Phillips Levy became the second, and to date the last, person to be indicted under the Logan Act. Levy, an American merchant and sailor who was living in Mexico at the time, had acquired a grant to build a railway across the Isthmus of Tehuantepec, the narrowest point across Mexico. Secretary of State Daniel Webster had been pressuring Mexico to accept a treaty that would allow a different group of American businessmen to build the railway. Levy wrote a letter to Mexican President Mariano Arista urging him to reject Webster's proposed treaty, prompting Webster to seek an indictment against Levy for violating the Logan Act. Federal prosecutors were forced to dismiss the case after Arista refused to hand over the original copy of the letter, depriving them of the evidence they needed to convict Levy.[3]
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Rolodex wrote: Wed Aug 21, 2024 6:03 pm I don't think anyone in the history of forever has ever been tried for a Logan Act violation.

And so I went to look for the facts, and indeed, no one ever has been on trial for violating the Act which was enacted in 1799.
We've never had a former president convicted of 34 felonies before either, so I'm all in on Trump being the first here.
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MN-Skeptic wrote: Wed Aug 21, 2024 6:16 pm
Rolodex wrote: Wed Aug 21, 2024 6:03 pm I don't think anyone in the history of forever has ever been tried for a Logan Act violation.

And so I went to look for the facts, and indeed, no one ever has been on trial for violating the Act which was enacted in 1799.
We've never had a former president convicted of 34 felonies before either, so I'm all in on Trump being the first here.
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more trading cards :brickwallsmall:
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The reason Trump is now reduced to a late night 2 bit infomercial huckster selling the shirt off his back, trading cards, bibles and sneakers out of a van, is because he and his whole “unserious family is incapable of making a new BILLION DOLLARS of fortune to replace what he squandered, and all his grifting income streams have dried up. Michael Popok methodically breaks down why Trump is circling the drain financially and can’t recover, and why his selling the suit off his back and trading cards is a desperate cry for help the American people are ignoring.
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FWIW - Donald and his Epstein connection
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Sounds like something is going to drop

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Dr. Ken wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2024 8:25 pm Sounds like something is going to drop

Of course, the Trump train is filled with power-hungry amoral scumbags, so this will have approximately zero effect. They're all burnishing their resumes and overinflating their sense of self-importance, so they all leak like sieves in order to feel like they're the ultimate powerful insider.
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Um, if this is real, "we have done a great job at preventing leaks," is not a good claim anymore.

Maybe it was a typo, and they were really saying that they got the kitchen to stop using leeks.
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It sounds like a routine reminder, except it was leaked. :lol:
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pipistrelle wrote: Thu Sep 05, 2024 8:30 am It sounds like a routine reminder, except it was leaked. :lol:
Pretty bad when even the warning about leaking gets leaked.
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keith wrote: Thu Sep 05, 2024 9:50 am Maybe trying to limit the blowback?

DOJ outlines Russia’s disinformation campaigns designed to interfere with U.S. election
If you mean, MAGA blowback, I would hope that they're long past the time when that was a consideration for anything, since MAGA does nothing but blow shit anyway. But with Garland at the helm, I suppose all bets for decisiveness and action are off.
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p0rtia wrote: Thu Sep 05, 2024 10:18 am
keith wrote: Thu Sep 05, 2024 9:50 am Maybe trying to limit the blowback?

DOJ outlines Russia’s disinformation campaigns designed to interfere with U.S. election
If you mean, MAGA blowback, I would hope that they're long past the time when that was a consideration for anything, since MAGA does nothing but blow shit anyway. But with Garland at the helm, I suppose all bets for decisiveness and action are off.
The AG will issue a decisive statement about waiting, seeing, and waiting some more, I suppose.
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A judge ruled that operations at Trump International Hotel & Tower in Chicago violated environmental regulations intended to protect Chicago River wildlife. The decision, announced Wednesday, comes after several years of litigation. In 2018, then-Illinois Attorney General Lisa Madigan filed a lawsuit alleging that Trump Tower’s cooling intake system drew so powerfully from the river that it trapped fish—killing thousands. At the time, the Trump Organization maintained that the allegations against it weren’t fair. “One can only conclude that this decision was motivated by politics,” it said in a statement to The Chicago Tribune. Now, Cook County Circuit Judge Thaddeus L. Wilson has found Trump Tower liable on all counts, writing that it “committed a continuing public nuisance through a series of failures to comply with state and federal law dating back to 2008.” A later hearing will determine what penalties the company will face. The ruling comes amid a presidential election campaign in which Donald Trump has made clear his desire to weaken the Environmental Protection Agency should he win the presidency.
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I posted that in General Law and Lawsuits because I couldn’t find this thread. 😭
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pipistrelle wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2024 2:58 pm I posted that in General Law and Lawsuits because I couldn’t find this thread. 😭
I don't go to that thread very often :bag:
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Kendra wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2024 3:09 pm
pipistrelle wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2024 2:58 pm I posted that in General Law and Lawsuits because I couldn’t find this thread. 😭
I don't go to that thread very often :bag:
Just couldn’t remember what to search for or would have put it here.

https://chicago.suntimes.com/environmen ... -club-fish
Trump Tower ruled 'public nuisance' over fish kills
A Cook County Circuit Court judge agreed with Attorney General Kwame Raoul, Illinois Sierra Club and Friends of the Chicago River that Trump Tower violated state environmental laws protecting the Chicago River.

Trump Tower is a public nuisance that threatens the Chicago River with its cooling water intake system that illegally sucked in and killed thousands of fish over a number of years, a judge ruled this week.
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The building at 401 N. Wabash Ave. operates without a proper state environmental permit, does not accurately report water discharge levels and violates at least three other laws, according to the lawsuit. Wilson said those facts were “well founded” and “not materially challenged.”

Those facts are that the Trump Tower “has created and continues to create a a public nuisance in violation of Illinois law,” and the intake system operates “in a manner that substantially and unreasonably interferes with the public right to fish and otherwise recreate in the Chicago River,” Wilson said in an order dated Monday.
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What I gathered from this review, and he did not point it out: Swiss Made was only on the highend Tourbillon model, the others may just come from China :blackeye:
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pipistrelle wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2024 3:46 pm
Kendra wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2024 3:09 pm
pipistrelle wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2024 2:58 pm I posted that in General Law and Lawsuits because I couldn’t find this thread. 😭
I don't go to that thread very often :bag:
Just couldn’t remember what to search for or would have put it here.

https://chicago.suntimes.com/environmen ... -club-fish
Trump Tower ruled 'public nuisance' over fish kills
A Cook County Circuit Court judge agreed with Attorney General Kwame Raoul, Illinois Sierra Club and Friends of the Chicago River that Trump Tower violated state environmental laws protecting the Chicago River.

Trump Tower is a public nuisance that threatens the Chicago River with its cooling water intake system that illegally sucked in and killed thousands of fish over a number of years, a judge ruled this week.
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The building at 401 N. Wabash Ave. operates without a proper state environmental permit, does not accurately report water discharge levels and violates at least three other laws, according to the lawsuit. Wilson said those facts were “well founded” and “not materially challenged.”

Those facts are that the Trump Tower “has created and continues to create a a public nuisance in violation of Illinois law,” and the intake system operates “in a manner that substantially and unreasonably interferes with the public right to fish and otherwise recreate in the Chicago River,” Wilson said in an order dated Monday.
There are some nice size bass in the river.

Lot of carp, though.
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RTH10260 wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2024 8:48 pm more trading cards :brickwallsmall:
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I have never for a moment believed the he is a bona-fide billionaire. Sure, he has a few billion in assets (mostly at deceitfully inflated values), but he also has billions in debt. To me, the definition of a billionaire is someone whose NET WORTH is more than a billion dollars.

We know that many, if not all of his properties are mortgaged to the hilt. I would not be surprised at all if a truthful accounting showed that he is, in fact, insolvent, and living off the cash flow his businesses generate.

But, I know that we're never going to see a truthful accounting.
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FWIW (nothing really new, DonOld the business trickster)

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Based on a posting at the MTN website

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