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Suranis wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 12:40 pm


An open letter to advertisers

Every day, hundreds of millions of people come to X to be part of the only global, real-time conversation. They come to share their thoughts and hear others. To share their content and see more. To debate and be debated. To entertain and be entertained. To inspire and be inspired. There is no substitute for X.
The power of this community to bring global conversations to life was the reason I was so excited to join X as CEO in June 2023.

After a career in media and advertising, I thought I had seen everything. Then I read the U.S. House of Representatives Judiciary Committee’s report entitled “GARM’s (Global Alliance for Responsible Media) Harm” last month. The report disclosed that their investigation had found evidence of an illegal boycott against many companies, including X.

As their report found: "Evidence obtained by the Committee shows that GARM and its members directly organized boycotts and used other indirect tactics to target disfavored platforms, content creators, and news organizations in an effort to demonetize and, in effect, limit certain choices for consumers."

The consequence - perhaps the intent - of this boycott was to seek to deprive X’s users, be they sports fans, gamers, journalists, activists, parents or political and corporate leaders, of the Global Town Square.

To put it simply, people are hurt when the marketplace of ideas is undermined and some viewpoints are not funded over others as part of an illegal boycott.
This behavior is a stain on a great industry, and cannot be allowed to continue.

That is why, today, X has filed an antitrust lawsuit against the Global Alliance for Responsible Media (GARM), the World Federation of Advertisers (WFA), and GARM members CVS Health, Mars, Orsted and Unilever. This is not a decision we took lightly, but it is a direct consequence of their actions.

The illegal behavior of these organizations and their executives cost X billions of dollars.

Since arriving at X, I made it my mission to continue to build a platform where people, brands and advertisers can thrive in our unique, dynamic and safe environment.

And because of this commitment to our users, even despite the boycott, usage has reached all time highs. Using a Twitter legacy metric, user active minutes, in August 2022, people spent 7.2 billion active minutes on the platform. Today, that number is more than 9 billion, a 25% increase.

The same is true for video - even compared to last year, daily video views are up 45% to 8.2 billion. X is innovating and growing.

We have met and surpassed the requests made by advertisers and groups such as GARM for new tools, both to improve advertiser controls and the effectiveness of our products to drive increased value for our customers.

We have proven our platform provides advertisers a way to showcase their brands and reach their target audiences safely, efficiently and effectively. That’s why I’ve worked in good faith with marketers across the globe to showcase our innovations and allay any concerns with brands whom I’ve partnered with for decades. The unfortunate reality is that despite all our efforts, hundreds of meetings and research to the contrary, many companies chose to dismiss the facts.
To those who broke the law, we say enough is enough. We are compelled to seek justice for the harm that has been done by these and potentially additional defendants, depending what the legal process reveals.

It's also clear that there are likely others who suffered at the hands of this activity. This case is about more than damages - we have to fix a broken ecosystem that allows this illegal activity to occur.

We will continue to innovate and ensure X has a vibrant future while the courts will hold accountable those who engaged in illegal behavior.

To all of you who have been part of the transformative journey we are on, thank you. Rest assured, we will not stop defending our global town square.
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So much for gfy to those who don't advertise on his platform.
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The Behavior Panel are unabashed Trump humping Musk loving creeps. I watched part of a " body language" video they put out about Musk's interview where he basically said "fuck you, I don't care" to advertisers and they judged him as being "totally honest" in his "I dont' care". In this same video right after telling the audience that he didn't care he also threatened to sue them. That does seem to absolutely contradict the "I don't care", as pointed out by Dr Ken in the above post.

Apparently that went right over the heads of the four expert body language geniuses. You would think people with their credentials would have caught that. Some of their videos are entertaining, but I have noticed that any time they are evaluating statements made by politicians or people who have clear political motivation I can predict with 100% accuracy what their opinions on body language will be just by knowing the political views of the person they are "evaluating".
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Dr. Ken wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 12:42 pm So much for gfy to those who don't advertise on his platform.
To steal from the bird-fire site:

Advertisers: "Uhh, about those Nazis..."

Musk: "GFY."

Advertisers: [Proceed to GFthemselves.]

Musk: "SEE YOU IN COURT!!!1!"


(Yes, I know the site is actually suing the boycott organizers.)
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I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around the concept of illegal boycott.
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Slim Cognito wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 5:44 pm I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around the concept of illegal boycott.
The complaint alleges that the group boycott violated the Antitrust Act; it also alleges the boycotters illegally shared sensitive information (i.e., their intent to boycott) with each other (also in violation of the Antitrust Act).

This is a tweet with a filing fee.

Harmeet Dhillon is PHV forthcoming on this, but of course.
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So all the people planning to boycott Bud Light openly on twitter were illegally colluding? Or is it only when companies do it?
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sugar magnolia wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 8:00 pm So all the people planning to boycott Bud Light openly on twitter were illegally colluding? Or is it only when companies do it?
So: there's the World Federation of Advertisers. Members must abide by the federation's rules, and the federation has rules about brand safety. (I'm sure there's a benefit to being a member, but I'm not a worldwide corporation, so I don't know.)

Some member companies of the WFA got together (as part of the WFA business/mission) and decided that WFA shouldn't allow any of its members to advertise on Twitter. So the WFA passed a rule baning its members from advertising on Twitter. Lawsuit then followed.

This lawsuit focuses on the WFA, and the companies that caused the rule to come into being.
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bob wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 8:26 pm
sugar magnolia wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 8:00 pm So all the people planning to boycott Bud Light openly on twitter were illegally colluding? Or is it only when companies do it?
So: there's the World Federation of Advertisers. Members must abide by the federation's rules, and the federation has rules about brand safety. (I'm sure there's a benefit to being a member, but I'm not a worldwide corporation, so I don't know.)

Some member companies of the WFA got together (as part of the WFA business/mission) and decided that WFA shouldn't allow any of its members to advertise on Twitter. So the WFA passed a rule baning its members from advertising on Twitter. Lawsuit then followed.

This lawsuit focuses on the WFA, and the companies that caused the rule to come into being.
Okay. That part is fairly clear. What isn't clear is why that would be illegal. A bunch of states have boycotted other states because they had rules they didn't like. At one point, MS had banned state travel to some other state for something or other. And didn't the NCAA boycott NC or WV or somebody for something or other? Or maybe it was the NCAA that was being boycotted?
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sugar magnolia wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 8:35 pmWhat isn't clear is why that would be illegal.
That's why this is just a tweet with a filing fee.

The defendants undoubtably will respond, "yo, bro, us collectively deciding not to advertise isn't illegal collusion or antitrust." And they may too also SLAPP Musk.
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bob wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 8:38 pm
sugar magnolia wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 8:35 pmWhat isn't clear is why that would be illegal.
That's why this is just a tweet with a filing fee.

The defendants undoubtably will respond, "yo, bro, us collectively deciding not to advertise isn't illegal collusion or antitrust." And they may too also SLAPP Musk.
Thanks. I guess my confusion stemmed from the fact that I was trying to make sense of their legal theory. My bad.
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/news/eu ... c7e4&ei=27
EU warns Elon Musk ahead of Trump interview to keep hate speech off X

European Commissioner Thierry Breton on Monday warned X owner Elon Musk that the company may face penalties if it doesn’t address the spread of illegal content.
Breton referred to riots that have taken place in the U.K., triggered by disinformation related to a fatal stabbing attack, as well as a conversation Musk is due to hold with Donald Trump.
Breton warned Musk that the EU was prepared to "make full use of our toolbox" under the Digital Services Act, including interim measures, to protect EU citizens from "serious harm."

The European Commission on Monday warned X Corp. owner Elon Musk and CEO Linda Yaccarino that the company may face penalties and restrictions in Europe if it doesn't address the spread of illegal content, including incitements to violence and hate speech, on its social media platform.
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I wonder what's in their "toolbox." Can they just shut off twitter altogether in the EU?
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https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/ ... index.html
Trump campaign bashes EU after it warned of "amplification of harmful content" ahead of conversation with Musk
From CNN's Kate Sullivan

Former President Donald Trump’s campaign bashed the European Union and accused it of “trying to meddle in the U.S. Presidential election” after an EU official wrote a letter to Elon Musk warning of the “amplification of harmful content” ahead of Musk’s planned conversation with Trump on X on Monday night.

Thierry Breton, the EU’s internal market commissioner, said in his letter that the X owner and Tesla CEO had a legal obligation to ensure the platform’s compliance with EU law and needed to ensure measures were put in place to mitigate the “amplification of harmful content” that could have “detrimental effects on civic discourse and public security” if left unchecked.

“Only in Joe Biden and Kamala Harris’ America can an un-Democratic foreign organization feel emboldened enough to tell this country what to do,” Trump campaign spokesperson Steven Cheung said in a statement, adding, “Let us be very clear: the European Union is an enemy of free speech and has no authority of any kind to dictate how we campaign.”

Musk responded on X with a meme that said, “Take a big step back and literally, f**k your own face!”

Musk, who has endorsed Trump, said his conversation with the former president, scheduled for 8 p.m. ET, will be “unscripted with no limits on subject matter.”
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Rolodex wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2024 6:54 pm I wonder what's in their "toolbox." Can they just shut off twitter altogether in the EU?
Good question.
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People are tweeting the online interview conversation :yankyank: -fest crashed.

Don't know if that's real or just trolling. Don't care. :talktothehand:
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Elon wasn't ready
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I dunno why people were hyped for 2 narcissists to sit there talking about themselves for an hour. I mean, there's hate watching, and there is giving yourself a Lobotomy.
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Today on either Nicolle or Ari, there was an excellent segment on how election boards across the country are being overwhelmed by MAGAts and others becoming fired up because of false election information. I mean, we know this, but the report talked about how the budgets for combating disinfo were being slashed in red states.

A particularly insidious way to contribute to the upcoming battle (which I call "Coup v.2").

Gotta go hunt that up.

Seriously, is there any doubt that Coup v.2 will be in the form of he?undreds of counties refusing to certify their elections? Which will set up the House for their Big Move.

Judge Luttig is up on this, at least. He has started a Task Force for Democracy involving the ABA. I haven't heard much about it, but I'm hoping. Yeah, I know, the ABA--but that's the point; he and his people, including Jeh Johnson, are trying to get the ABA to take action against lawyers who have joined in to overthrow democracy.
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Elon is claiming DDOS attack and will try to restart with a smaller number of viewers.
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Seriously, Elmo? Remember the DeSantis announcement? Did you learn nothing?

Weird and incompetent.

And the second biggest liar on the planet.
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p0rtia wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2024 8:39 pm Seriously, Elmo? Remember the DeSantis announcement? Did you learn nothing?

Weird and incompetent.

And the second biggest liar on the planet.
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:lol:
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"The Harris HQ account on Truth Social is currently ‘re-truthing’ Trump’s posts about DeSantis’ failed Twitter launch. This is amazing."
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