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A controversial, but understandable decision by President Joe Biden.
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Fake, but funny!
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@MrJulieGoldman
List of things to do before Joe Biden leaves office. A running list.
1. Invite Kristi Noem into Oval and leave her alone with Major.
2. Pardon Major.
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So much for all the conspiracy theories about medavacs and him being dead...
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These people can't keep their conspiracies straight. They've been saying for years that it's been an actor playing the part of Biden because he's dead or in a basement or on Mars or something. Just like he's both incompetent and the brains behind a complicated criminal network.
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ABC (538): Biden isn't the first president to drop a reelection bid:
Ascended presidents who didn't stand in a second full-term election (for whatever reason): LBJ, Truman,* Teddy, [known usurper] Arthur, the other Johnson, Fillmore, and Tyler.
Elected presidents who didn't stand in a second full-term election: Hayes, Buchanan, Pierce, and Polk.
Hayes, Buchanan, and Polk just didn't run; Pierce ran but didn't get the nomination (so he wasn't in the general election).
Executive summary: Biden is the first elected president to drop out while seeking a second full term.His situation was unique, but not without some historical parallels.
Ascended presidents who didn't stand in a second full-term election (for whatever reason): LBJ, Truman,* Teddy, [known usurper] Arthur, the other Johnson, Fillmore, and Tyler.
Elected presidents who didn't stand in a second full-term election: Hayes, Buchanan, Pierce, and Polk.
Hayes, Buchanan, and Polk just didn't run; Pierce ran but didn't get the nomination (so he wasn't in the general election).
Edit: * As Foogy cheekily notes, Truman ascended, won his first election, but basically didn't seek a second full term. At 68, Truman in 1952 was considered too old with failing abilities.
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Truman ran after ascending, but he lost.
Edit: I'm on the opposite coast, everything is opposite here.
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One benefit of Kamala beating Trump is SCOTUS will quickly repeal its immunity decision.
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*I* like to point out that Biden has six months left on the job, no reelection to run for, and absolute immunity for the rest of his natural life. LET'S TAKE THAT OUT FOR A SPIN, SHALL WE???
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I feel so bad for the guy.
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There were protests aimed at him every day.Slim Cognito wrote: ↑Sun Jul 21, 2024 10:11 pm I know I was a kid at the time, but I don't recall anyone demanding Johnson resign when he decided not to seek election.
It is true however, that nobody wanted him to turnover the reigns to Hubert early. Humphrey was a very non-charismatic non-entity that would have made a lousy president (but he would have been better than Nixon).
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Doing what trump couldn't do
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He didn't care. He likes people who aren't political prisoners.
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So much for his claim that he will free the reporter if he wins.
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Per Jake Sullivan, Alexei Navalny was supposed to be part of the swap before he died, so this deal has been in the works for a while.
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Gift link to the long WSJ article about the prisoner swap -
WSJ Reporter Evan Gershkovich Is Free
By the way, Trump is now proclaiming "I got back many hostages, and gave the opposing Country NOTHING - and never any cash." Well yes, hostage exchanges continued through Trump's tenure, but FactCheck.org provides details, including the number of prisoners we swapped for our citizens - Trump Swapped Prisoners, Too
Gift link to the long WSJ article about the prisoner swap -
WSJ Reporter Evan Gershkovich Is Free
Release of 32-year-old American from Russia secured as part of largest East-West prisoner swap since Cold War
Russia freed wrongly convicted Wall Street Journal reporter Evan Gershkovich as part of the largest and most complex East-West prisoner swap since the Cold War, in which he and more than a dozen others jailed by the Kremlin were exchanged for Russians held in the U.S. and Europe, including a convicted murderer.
Moscow also released former Marine Paul Whelan, journalist Alsu Kurmasheva and Vladimir Kara-Murza, a British-Russian dissident and Pulitzer Prize-winning columnist, sentenced to 25 years in prison on treason-related charges. Russia also released a number of political dissidents.
The sweeping deal involved 24 prisoners and at least six countries, and came together after months of negotiations at the highest levels of governments in the U.S., Russia and Germany, whose prisoner, Russian hit man Vadim Krasikov, emerged as the linchpin to the arrangement.
More at the link above.Biden—about an hour before he notified the world he was dropping out of the presidential race on July 21—called the prime minister of Slovenia, whose country was contributing two convicted Russian spies to the swap, to secure the pardon necessary for the deal to proceed. CIA Director William Burns traveled to Turkey last week to meet his counterpart there and finalize the logistics for the swap.
By the way, Trump is now proclaiming "I got back many hostages, and gave the opposing Country NOTHING - and never any cash." Well yes, hostage exchanges continued through Trump's tenure, but FactCheck.org provides details, including the number of prisoners we swapped for our citizens - Trump Swapped Prisoners, Too
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Yes, well, those prisoners were NOTHING to Trump!
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My wife’s friend posted this. Love the idea!
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Yeah, that's from our "Who should be Harris's VP?" thread. Tim Walz wasn't on our poll. And now look at the poll in this thread: We voted 52 to 12 that Joe shouldn't quit (with 1 vote for Other).
But I'm not suggesting we recalibrate our political acumen and infrastructure. It just seems like, since the day I voted for Liz Warren, I've been a little off in my political instincts. I was Joe all the way, but I now admit I was wrong. Harris is a better candy date than Joe. I didn't know squat about Tim Walz, and I never heard of him, but he seems like a character cast in Hollywood - perfect for the rôle. Ha, little hat on the O.
Anyway, the entire world changed again while I slept last night. Maybe I'll do better tomorrow.
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So damn glad to see Biden on a bike.
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