7/21: Biden "Stands Down". Should (Will?) President Joe Biden Drop Out of the 2024 Presidential Race? Poll & Editorials

[pipistrelle]

This “not fit” sh!t pisses me off.

[Ben-Prime]

So far as I know, his statement regarding his withdrawal did not admit to any lack of fitness, solely that he had made the decision not to continue.

[RVInit]

So far as I know, his statement regarding his withdrawal did not admit to any lack of fitness, solely that he had made the decision not to continue.

Exactly.

[pipistrelle]

Laura McGann is WaPo senior editor of opinions section. And the reason many dropped their subscription.

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[MN-Skeptic]

I used to follow Brian Stelter on Twitter. I dropped him when he started his Biden attacks.

[bob]

Biden's method seems at least reasonable.

[New Turtle]

He probably lost his voice with the COVID. I'm sure he will address the nation when he gets it back.

[Ben-Prime]

So far as I know, his statement regarding his withdrawal did not admit to any lack of fitness, solely that he had made the decision not to continue.

Exactly.

Amusingly, given Biden's Catholicism, I have been comparing him to this particular Poor Little Jewish Boy's favorite Catholic Saint, Thomas More, especially given the hullaballoo about what his resignation 'must say' about his fitness to serve and those calling for him to just resign now. While it's a dramatization, I'm particularly fond of A Man For All Seasons.

Sir Thomas More: You may suppose I have objections. All you know is that I will not swear to it, for which you cannot lawfully harm me further.

The world can think what it wants of President Unca Joe's reasons. His detractors can think it's because he has been convinced he's no longer fit, or simply that he can no longer win. But until he admits being unfit, or someone invokes the 25th Amendment, their accusations won't add a penny to the cash in hand necessary to buy a latte.

[Slim Cognito]

I know I was a kid at the time, but I don't recall anyone demanding Johnson resign when he decided not to seek election.

[pipistrelle]

So far as I know, his statement regarding his withdrawal did not admit to any lack of fitness, solely that he had made the decision not to continue.

Exactly.

The media has been making the statements about his fitness, or supposed lack of.

He's supposed to have a longer statement later in the week, IIRC.

[Slim Cognito]

https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/21/politics ... index.html

House Speaker Mike Johnson called on President Joe Biden to resign “immediately” in the wake of Biden’s announcement that he will not seek reelection.

“If Joe Biden is not fit to run for President, he is not fit to serve as President. He must resign the office immediately,” Johnson, a Republican from Louisiana, said in a statement Sunday afternoon.

Biden ended his reelection bid and endorsed Vice President Kamala Harris to succeed him on Sunday, in a major and historic move that upends the presidential race.

GOP Rep. Nancy Mace of South Carolina said that she plans to introduce a resolution on Monday that calls on Harris to invoke the 25th Amendment and assume Biden’s duties.

“If Joe Biden does not have the cognitive ability to seek reelection, he does not have the cognitive ability to serve the remainder of his term,” she said.

You scared bro? You sound scared.

[Suranis]

The guy has Covid. That alone is a pretty good reason why he didn't make a "presidential address," whatever that means. No conspiracy needed.

I'm sure they will have him as secretly dead in the next day or so. And if he does make a statement they will say its AI and that Hunter is running the whitehouse. IMPEACH HIS CORPSE!

[bob]

I'm sure they will have him as secretly dead in the next day or so.

On the bird site, Biden is already secretly dead.

Meanwhile:

Harvard Law is not sending their best.

[Ben-Prime]

I'm sure they will have him as secretly dead in the next day or so.

On the bird site, Biden is already secretly dead.

Meanwhile:

Harvard Law is not sending their best.

You know, given that a certain new Democratic Presidential candidated attended Howard and UC Hastings, this opens a new line of attack that the *GOP* (FJT - Wharton, JDV - Yale, Teddy C - Harvard) are the new educational elitists.

[sugar magnolia]

Random thought this morning before coffee. For all the nitwits stomping around threatening to sue the states if they take Biden off the ballot, how would they attain standing? Would it have to be an actual candidate? Someone who voted for Biden in the primary? And what law would they sue under? Does any state or FEC rules, or even rules of the parties, have some prohibition against dropping out of the race?

I know that anyone can sue anybody for anything but I'm asking what they could possibly file that would make it past the first trashcan. I'm pretty sure the insane theory I saw yesterday that they can sue, get the case assigned to Cannon and she could send it straight to SCOTUS immediately, is a load of hooey. But who the hell even knows any more?

[neonzx]

Marc Elias assured everyone yesterday that Harris will be on all 50 state ballots.

[Foggy]

Well, we live in exciting and historic times, my fellow boogle.

I had the thought last night about 3 am that Joe should resign as soon as Kamala decides on a VP, and let the two of them show the country what they would do as president and vice president.

But now I've had some covfefe and I'm rethinking.

[SuzieC]

Wouldn't the Senate have to confirm her VP? Do you think that's likely? If so, I think it might be good if she runs as an incumbent.

[Dr. Ken]

House and senate

[June bug]

House and senate

And that’s exactly why you have the Speaker and other GQP Congress critters calling for Biden to resign or the 25th to be invoked. This Republican House would never confirm a strong nominee for VP. (See Bob Russell, season 5 of West Wing.)

[bill_g]

Don't let the Republicans select the Democratic candidate again like they did with Hillary.

[Dr. Ken]

House and senate

And that’s exactly why you have the Speaker and other GQP Congress critters calling for Biden to resign or the 25th to be invoked. This Republican House would never confirm a strong nominee for VP. (See Bob Russell, season 5 of West Wing.)

Good ole Bingo Bob.

[MN-Skeptic]

Let Biden continue to do the job he does so well while Kamala concentrates on campaigning. Republicans are going to do their best to put up roadblocks and we don’t need to add to the chaos they want.

[Dr. Ken]

[bob]

I know that anyone can sue anybody for anything but I'm asking what they could possibly file that would make it past the first trashcan. I'm pretty sure the insane theory I saw yesterday that they can sue, get the case assigned to Cannon and she could send it straight to SCOTUS immediately, is a load of hooey. But who the hell even knows any more?

I think you answered your own questions.

No, it wouldn't be a serious lawsuit; yes, it would be lawfare that's politicking by other means; etc.

It would have to be a state-by-state battle, and on an expedited schedule. It is easier and cheaper (and, frankly, more effective) for them to make lazy complaints on the tee vee and social media, than to set money on fire for a stunt that will be forgotten by November.

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Off Topic

You know, given that a certain new Democratic Presidential candidated attended Howard and UC Hastings

Aside: Hastings has since rebranded itself, and is now UC College of Law. (Hastings, California' first Chief of SCOCA, has a "questionable" legacy.) But it was Hastings when Harris attended.

Similarly, Boalt is now Berkeley Law.