busterbunker wrote: ↑Sat Jul 20, 2024 3:34 am
Don't piss on your kids when you're living in a paper house with very thin margins, like the battlegrounds Biden flipped in 2020. Unless you're trying to prove my point, maybe you are.
The other thing that I wrote but then deleated is - don't mistake the noises of a very loud tiny minority of college age people with the positions of the minority. Anyone that wasn't going to vote or would vote for Trump because of Gaza wasn't going to vote for Biden anyway. They would just have found another excuse to do it.
Most young people will look at Gaza and put the blame where it belongs, The Israelis and Hamas. Blaming Biden for yet another round of a Conflict that has been going on for over a century is irrational, and people really are not that irrational.
AND, despite what people were screaming back then about Young people and Bernie, Bernie lost by bigger numbers than Trump did despite a smaller electorate. Saying that a guy who lost to Hillary by 3.6 Million votes would have beaten the guy that lost to Hillary by 2.7 Million votes is stupid.
Theres other things in that Pew article that go against what youa re trying to say as well
One somewhat unusual aspect of the 2016 election was the relatively high share of voters (nearly 6%) who voted for one of the third-party candidates (mostly the Libertarian and Green Party nominees), a fact many observers attributed to the relative unpopularity of both major party candidates. By comparison, just 2% of voters chose a third-party candidate in 2020. Overall, third-party 2016 voters who turned out in 2020 voted 53%-36% for Biden over Trump, with 10% opting for a third-party candidate. Among the 5% of Republicans who voted third-party in 2016 and voted in 2020, a majority (70%) supported Trump in 2020, but 18% backed Biden. Among the 5% of Democrats who voted third-party in 2016 and voted in 2020, just 8% supported Trump in 2020 while 85% voted for Biden.
There are no real third party alternatives this time around, apart from Robert Kennedy who has flatlined despite the desperate attempts of the Media to prop him up.
There also the fact that Trump support gained among white women compared with his vote in 2016...
In 2016, Trump won White men by 30 points (62% to 32%). That gap narrowed to a 17-point margin for Trump in 2020 (57% to 40%). White women, a group sometimes categorized as swing voters and who broke nearly evenly in 2016 (47% for Trump to 45% for Clinton), favored him in 2020 (53% to 46%).
So, white men saved the republic last time around. (And got 0% of the credit)
Considering everyone is now screaming that "WOMEN ARE GOING TO PUNISH TRUMP THIS TIME AROUND BECAUSE OF ROE AND AND AND!! HANDMAIDENS!!!", that alone should counteract any Gaza unmentionables that exist. Right? So, he not toast?
Oh, and Trump gained ground in your precious College kids last time around, and Biden still crushed him.
Generation Z (those ages 18 to 23 in 2020) and the Millennial generation (ages 24 to 39 in 2020) – favored Biden over Trump by a margin of 20 percentage points, though Trump gained 8 points among Millennials compared with his 2016 performance.
So, he not toast?
Etc etc. As people on this forum have found out, don't give me access to data, especially articles you have been quoted a paragraph of and haven't read yourself. I'll read it and find what it actually says.
What do you mean "I cherry pick stuff that agrees with me and be eeeevil!" How dare you accuse me of such scandalous behaviour!
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