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"He sewed his eyes shut because he is afraid to see, He tries to tell me what I put inside of me
He's got the answers to ease my curiosity, He dreamed a god up and called it Christianity"
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He's got the answers to ease my curiosity, He dreamed a god up and called it Christianity"
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"He sewed his eyes shut because he is afraid to see, He tries to tell me what I put inside of me
He's got the answers to ease my curiosity, He dreamed a god up and called it Christianity"
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He's got the answers to ease my curiosity, He dreamed a god up and called it Christianity"
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This is usually the point where the 2A internet experts chime in with muzzle velocity, jacketing, and all kinds of ballistic knowledge to edumakate us mortals. Sadly, I have not taken the opportunity to find where they are hiding on this incident.
But, if he can go golfing within 24 hours without a bandage, he's was not badly injured. That tea bag he was wearing was just costume to cover up the lack of a visible injury.
But, if he can go golfing within 24 hours without a bandage, he's was not badly injured. That tea bag he was wearing was just costume to cover up the lack of a visible injury.
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Indeed, had even a shrapnel piece of a 5.56 X 41 round hit in in he ear he would be missing a chuck of his ear.bill_g wrote: ↑Tue Jul 16, 2024 10:16 pm This is usually the point where the 2A internet experts chime in with muzzle velocity, jacketing, and all kinds of ballistic knowledge to edumakate us mortals. Sadly, I have not taken the opportunity to find where they are hiding on this incident.
But, if he can go golfing within 24 hours without a bandage, he's was not badly injured. That tea bag he was wearing was just costume to cover up the lack of a visible injury.
He was hit from glass cracked off the teleprompter, he got cut by it, be he will swear that was a round till the day he dies, because the ghost of Fred SR continues to call him a loser in his head...
"He sewed his eyes shut because he is afraid to see, He tries to tell me what I put inside of me
He's got the answers to ease my curiosity, He dreamed a god up and called it Christianity"
Trent Reznor
He's got the answers to ease my curiosity, He dreamed a god up and called it Christianity"
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From elsewhere (but an excellent point)
David Hogg
If the secret service can’t keep the president safe from a 20 year old with an AR-15, and if 100 cops in Uvalde can’t stop an 18 year old with one- maybe it’s time to stop talking about the cops and start talking about the fucking guns.
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If the secret service can’t keep the president safe from a 20 year old with an AR-15, and if 100 cops in Uvalde can’t stop an 18 year old with one- maybe it’s time to stop talking about the cops and start talking about the fucking guns.
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I can hardly wait for the day he removes the bandage, and he spins up his braggadoccio - this big manly doctor had tears in his eyes when he explained that Trump's recovery was the fastest and best he's ever seen. He's never seen something so beautiful. It was the most complete recovery he had ever seen. It was something. The best, most perfect ear. Ears! I have two of them. And with great hearing. Best hearing for a man my age. No one is like me. No one.Frater I*I wrote: ↑Tue Jul 16, 2024 10:36 pm Indeed, had even a shrapnel piece of a 5.56 X 41 round hit in in he ear he would be missing a chuck of his ear.
He was hit from glass cracked off the teleprompter, he got cut by it, be he will swear that was a round till the day he dies, because the ghost of Fred SR continues to call him a loser in his head...
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... and while we're on the topic of the Trump target practice, I got a bunch of windshield time today which meant listening to a lot of NPR radio and a lot of experts. This one reporter pointed out the shooter was outside a distance perimeter. I don't recall the exact number, but it was something like 400 yards. The Secret Service was responsible for the first 400 yards around the President. Beyond that fell on local LEO. And that's where the shooter was. So, it was the local team that dropped the ball, not the national team, despite their efforts to fuck it up entirely when they almost tossed DJT off the stage like a sack of wheat.
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The Day of the Jackal
Novel by Frederick Forsyth
The guy missed De Gaulle cause the president moved ...
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Ronny Johnson Jackson?bill_g wrote: ↑Tue Jul 16, 2024 10:49 pmI can hardly wait for the day he removes the bandage, and he spins up his braggadoccio - this big manly doctor had tears in his eyes when he explained that Trump's recovery was the fastest and best he's ever seen. He's never seen something so beautiful. It was the most complete recovery he had ever seen. It was something. The best, most perfect ear. Ears! I have two of them. And with great hearing. Best hearing for a man my age. No one is like me. No one.Frater I*I wrote: ↑Tue Jul 16, 2024 10:36 pm Indeed, had even a shrapnel piece of a 5.56 X 41 round hit in in he ear he would be missing a chuck of his ear.
He was hit from glass cracked off the teleprompter, he got cut by it, be he will swear that was a round till the day he dies, because the ghost of Fred SR continues to call him a loser in his head...
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Except it was not 400 yards but closer to 400 feet, little if any wind and a basically static target, Don Donny don't stray from his lectern/podium.bill_g wrote: ↑Tue Jul 16, 2024 11:00 pm ... and while we're on the topic of the Trump target practice, I got a bunch of windshield time today which meant listening to a lot of NPR radio and a lot of experts. This one reporter pointed out the shooter was outside a distance perimeter. I don't recall the exact number, but it was something like 400 yards. The Secret Service was responsible for the first 400 yards around the President. Beyond that fell on local LEO. And that's where the shooter was. So, it was the local team that dropped the ball, not the national team, despite their efforts to fuck it up entirely when they almost tossed DJT off the stage like a sack of wheat.
Even a cheap ass AR15 with cheap and nasty plinking ammo should expect accuracy of about 2 MOA (Minutes Of Arc) which means an accuracy of circa 2-3 inches of the point of aim at this range.
I won't start delving into the minutiae of the terminal ballistics of the 5.56 round however... At 200 yards, the velocity of the round, mass, spin etc means a centre mass shot would probably have been a dead right there shot with lard lad.
One of the aspects of the 5.56 at close range, high velocity means when it hits a liquid (the human body), at close range, the tip (low mass, proportionately high surface area) starts to decelerate far faster then the rear (high mass, proportionately low surface area)
This means the round is going to be prone to both destabilise AND mechanically fail. So, it will tend to tumble and fragment and cause a larger temporary and permanent crush cavity.
Separately, one issue that came up regularly in places like Iraq, the standard 5.56 round had significant issues when shot at car windscreens. It generally would penetrate but would frequently tend to be quite badly deflected. This could support the shooter aiming at The Lard Bucket, hitting the teleprompter ( which are angled ), breaking off a. shard which hits Donnie and being sufficiently deflected to miss the melon.
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It seems to me that people in charge of clusterfucks would eventually learn to keep their mouths shut.
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Pretty much on a par with the previous Secret Service leadership shown in Leonnig's book.
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So they don't put their snipers on sloped roofs. Good to know says some deranged lunatic somewhere.
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Of course they'd NEVER do that!Slim Cognito wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2024 7:58 am So they don't put their snipers on sloped roofs. Good to know says some deranged lunatic somewhere.
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Even the Daily Mail, normally a reliable Nest of pro Trump lies, is saying that "Unanswered questions" is leading to a wave of conspiracy theories.
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I'm starting to wonder if his motive was no more than to get famous. We try to use shooters' names as little as possible after one of these. But tied to tfg, that's not the case. Also, suicide by cop, although I think that's less likely, given what we know so far. He had a family, a job, graduated from high school with high honors, and just in May graduated from the community college with a degree as a tech engineer.
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Donald Trump doesn't have stitches after assassination attempt, but a "nice flesh wound," Eric Trump says
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/assassinat ... ric-trump/
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/assassinat ... ric-trump/
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Totally glass...
Well there are crazy people who are so obsessed with celebrities so much that they want to be tied to them. So maybe this was him trying to make himself famous and be tied to Donald in death. It's a theory the tizzyent guy posited.
Well there are crazy people who are so obsessed with celebrities so much that they want to be tied to them. So maybe this was him trying to make himself famous and be tied to Donald in death. It's a theory the tizzyent guy posited.
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This is just breaking on the local news. I don't know what will come of it.
https://www.wpxi.com/news/local/wpxi-ex ... AYHAKTJFQ/
https://www.wpxi.com/news/local/wpxi-ex ... AYHAKTJFQ/
Multiple law enforcement sources described the security operation in detail Tuesday, directly contradicting public statements from the U.S. Secret Service Director.
According to law enforcement sources in multiple counties in western Pennsylvania, there were two sniper teams set up near the building where Thomas Crooks fired from Saturday evening. However, in direct contrast to comments made by Secret Service director Kimberly Cheatle, there were no local police in the same building where Crooks made it on the roof.
Channel 11′s Nicole Ford also obtained exclusive photos showing the cell phone and transmitter device found next to Crooks moments after a Secret Service sniper shot and killed him. On Monday, Ford reported pictures of Crooks had been taken by local police at least 26 minutes before shots were fired and sent up the command chain.[/quote/]
More info here:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/art ... -detonator
I don't know if it's too late, but maybe this should have its own thread.
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Doesn't Foggy have to move the posts?
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