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Adam Klepp @AdamKleppAZ wrote: “Too many people are claiming asylum when they have no right to that claim,” Senator Sinema says.

Adds sending AZ National Guard to Lukeville can’t help re-open the port.

"The folks who work for DHS are the only individuals who are legally allowed to process these individuals.”
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Ali Bradley @AliBradleyTV wrote: AZ: The DHS contract crew (Spencer Const.) welded horizontal reinforcements along the wall as it is being cut on a daily basis here in Lukeville.

Border Patrol agents are able to spot weld and do some patch work—They’re too busy to even do that right now—When it comes to replacing bollards or larger holes, they have to bring in these crews.

I asked @GovernorHobbs if she is considering declaring a state of emergency or deploying the national guard to stop the human smugglers from cutting the wall—Still waiting on a response.
*Ali Bradley is generally not a credible source, but this report is accurate AFAIK.
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Hmm.. so this "wall" needs constant maintenance/welding? :smoking:

How much did Mexico pay us for this crapola?
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neonzx wrote: Thu Dec 07, 2023 5:19 pm Hmm.. so this "wall" needs constant maintenance/welding? :smoking:

How much did Mexico pay us for this crapola?
200 Trillion Ameros!!!!!!!

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Apparently with one of these Image cordless angle grinders, which you can pick up for $60 at Home Depot you can cut through the wall in minutes.
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And they only told us the immigrants would need longer ladders ... :crying: :crying: :crying:
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Hobbs invoiced Biden half a billion for what it has cost AZ to try to do the fed's jobs for them.
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Governor Katie Hobbs @GovernorHobbs wrote: The federal government must act immediately to solve the unmitigated crisis caused by the Lukeville Port of Entry closure.

Today, I sent a letter to President Biden calling on him to reassign National Guard members to assist in its reopening, as well as reimburse the $512,529,333 federal border inaction has cost us.
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I haz questions.
https://x.com/GovernorHobbs/status/1733 ... 24251?s=20
Governor Katie Hobbs @GovernorHobbs wrote: I swore to do everything possible to keep our communities safe when I took office. Today, I’m making good on that promise by announcing Operation SECURE to mobilize additional state resources to the border.

This operation will create a new Border Security Office within the Department of Homeland Security to coordinate operations.

Additionally, the operation will use up to $5 million for the National Guard to support law agencies along the border if the Biden Administration continues its failure to maintain a secure and orderly border.

Border security is a top priority of mine. As long as I’m Governor, I will do everything I can to keep Arizonans safe — even when the federal government fails to act.
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raison de arizona wrote: Fri Dec 08, 2023 6:58 pm :snippity:

Today, I sent a letter to President Biden calling on him to reassign National Guard members to assist in its reopening
As far as I know the President hasn't nationalized the AZ Guard, and you know who else can give them orders...YOU Madam Governor...

Our country is facing down a fascist party and Dems decide they need to fight their own... :bored:
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Frater I*I wrote: Fri Dec 08, 2023 8:37 pm
raison de arizona wrote: Fri Dec 08, 2023 6:58 pm :snippity:

Today, I sent a letter to President Biden calling on him to reassign National Guard members to assist in its reopening
As far as I know the President hasn't nationalized the AZ Guard, and you know who else can give them orders...YOU Madam Governor...

Our country is facing down a fascist party and Dems decide they need to fight their own... :bored:
Isn't the difference a matter of who pays the funding? And the benefits the Guardsfolk receive? On this one, I gotta side with the Governor, frankly: If your NG is doing something that is meant to be a Federal responsibility, it should be the Federal purse paying for them and they should get the other benefits of being called up for service under Title 10 (?) that would come along with that.

Not a current or former National Guardsmen, so maybe I'm getting this wrong and I'll be happy for any sincere corrections.
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Woo hoo! The Lukeville Border Station will be opening Jan. 4th. Ajo, Why and Rocky Point business owners are ecstatic.
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Chinese migrants are fastest growing group crossing into U.S. from Mexico | 60 Minutes

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A growing number of Chinese nationals, trying to escape repressive politics and a bleak economy, are headed to the U.S. They’re turning to a gap at the southern border with Mexico as a way to get in.



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Well this seems pretty messed up.
Students at fake university in Michigan created by ICE can sue US, court rules

Students who enrolled at a fake university set up by federal immigration agents have the right to sue the U.S. government, a federal court has ruled.

A decision last week by the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit means that the hundreds of students who paid tuition at the University of Farmington in Farmington Hills — created by undercover agents with U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement — have a legal basis to continue pursuing their claims in court.

In 2020, a lawsuit was filed against the U.S. government in the U.S. Court of Federal Claims by attorneys on behalf of Teja Ravi and other students enrolled at the University of Farmington, which no longer exists after ICE shut it down in 2019 and arrested at least 250 of its students. The suit said the U.S. breached their contract with the students by essentially stealing their tuition money, about $11,000 a year for each student. They are asking for their money back and other punitive damages. But the legal claim was dismissed on technical grounds in 2022 by the Claims Court, which said the case lacked jurisdiction. Three judges with the appeals court overturned that decision on June 25 and remanded the case back to the Claims Court.
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ICE started its undercover operation in 2015, creating a fake office on Northwestern Highway near 13 Mile with a website and an admissions process like a regular university. The University of Farmington was even listed on the website of ICE as a school approved by the U.S. government for students. It seemed real to its 600-plus students, a majority of them immigrants from India interested in studying technology and science. Many students are able to live and work legally in the U.S. through university programs such as the one the University of Farmington touted. The students had arrived legally in the U.S. and were on F-1 student visa programs when they enrolled. But it was all an elaborate operation by ICE's Homeland Security Investigations to trick foreign-born students they allege were trying to "pay to stay" in the U.S., a claim the students deny. ICE arrested hundreds of students, deported many of them and others left the U.S. on their own.

"The U.S. government (is) refusing to take accountability for the parents separated from their children over this, the couples separated over this, and the financial burden on families," said attorney Anna Nathanson, who represents the students and argued the case in court. "The need for justice is urgent.”

Records reveal the Department of Homeland Security went to great lengths to deceive the students, said their attorneys. The fake university was incorporated in the state of Michigan in January 2016, records with the Department of Licensing and Regulatory Affairs show. The Accrediting Commission of Career Schools and Colleges, which was working with the U.S. on its sting operation, also listed the university as legitimate.
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That is one sick concept by ICE, to lure foreigeners into the country and then kick them out with fines after confiscating their tution fees,

It's sick cause the students had to apply for a student visa, and for that they had to show to the local embassy in their home country that they are going to visit a bonafide university. The acceptable universities are listed iirc.
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How is that not entrapment if the students thought they were here to legitimately attend school? It doesn't sound like the feds set the school up to lure students who were already shopping around for a college that would take their money just to say they were students.
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sugar magnolia wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 6:12 pm How is that not entrapment if the students thought they were here to legitimately attend school? It doesn't sound like the feds set the school up to lure students who were already shopping around for a college that would take their money just to say they were students.
It likely was entrapment. The article says around 250 were arrested, but there's no mention of what happened next. Other articles suggest many of the students were removed from the United States or "voluntarily left" (under threat of removal).

But I didn't see anything saying anyone was convicted. Entrapment is an affirmative defense to criminal proceedings; I don't believe it is an affirmative defense to civil removal proceedings. Hence why they are suing for monetary damages.

(And I doubt criminal proceedings were the main goal of this operation.)
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