Bragg Manhattan DA charges tfg? Hush money. tfg “INDICATED!”

#1551

It’s the perfect reverse barometer! Give Trump what he whines he can’t get! Watch him squirm!

Rolodex · #1552

If the room is so cold as reported, shivering ought to keep him up.

I saw that the socmed posts are being removed but I think I saw somewhere that he's also supposed to remove that stuff from his campaign materials as well. If so I wonder if that's happening.

What's a "device" to keep someone awake? Sticking a pin in his leg?

bob · #1553

Inner City Press wrote:Prosecutor: What was it about?
Davidson: A blog post that Stormy Daniels and Donald Trump had had an intimate interaction. Gina told me some jerk had called and threatened to sue.
Prosecutor: Who was that jerk?
Davidson: Donald Trump

Rolodex · #1554

Hope he was awake to hear that.

#1555

Kyle Griffin @kylegriffin1 wrote: Breaking on @MSNBC: All the Truth Social and campaign website posts that Judge Merchan ruled violated his gag order have now been deleted.

p0rtia · #1556

bob wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2024 4:46 pm
Inner City Press wrote:Prosecutor: What was it about?
Davidson: A blog post that Stormy Daniels and Donald Trump had had an intimate interaction. Gina told me some jerk had called and threatened to sue.
Prosecutor: Who was that jerk?
Davidson: Donald Trump

Hang on a sec: various other tweeters had the "some jerk*" as Cohen

*no offense, Bob.

#1557

Every time I hear Trump complaining about the cold courthouse room, I remember my mother's wise words:

Dress accordingly!

Geez, how old is he? What a whiny baby!

#1558

https://x.com/kylegriffin1/status/1785408829770829852

Kyle Griffin @kylegriffin1 wrote: Breaking: An appeal's court has denied Trump's request to delay the hush money trial.

Trump sought a delay because Merchan refused to recuse, because he couldn't invoke an immunity defense and because the judge made his team file motions with a delay to allow for redactions.

Rolodex · #1559

This is just a random sample (although quality content!) of the text exchanges in the trial exhibits. Is there some reason the DA can't use normal texting format, almost like screenshots of the exchange? Beyond the redactions, they're hard to read. I guess you have to train yourself to just go to the end of the box.

Slim Cognito · #1560

raison de arizona wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2024 4:50 pm
Kyle Griffin @kylegriffin1 wrote: Breaking on @MSNBC: All the Truth Social and campaign website posts that Judge Merchan ruled violated his gag order have now been deleted.

Sounds like somebody just surrendered.

Rolodex · #1561

I was glad to see Merchan point out the business with the Watters "tweet" - how trump had changed it to look like he was quoting Watters when he really changed the words and then tried to pass it off as an RT.

much ado · #1562

Slim Cognito wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2024 5:48 pm Sounds like somebody just surrendered.

I wonder if he can actually stay surrendered.

Kendra · #1563

I did hear a brief mention on CNN that Ken Paxton showed up in court today. There was some chatter about rotating visitors out, since tfg's aides can't have their phones and thus can't do the work they're supposed to be doing.

Sam the Centipede · #1564

Off Topic

bob wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2024 4:46 pm
Inner City Press wrote:Prosecutor: What was it about?
Davidson: A blog post that Stormy Daniels and Donald Trump had had an intimate interaction. Gina told me some jerk had called and threatened to sue.
Prosecutor: Who was that jerk?
Davidson: Donald Trump

Oh gosh, Donald Trump, the hero of the birther movement, had been commenting on Sharon Rondeau's flypaper of a website? Only the best and the greatest! So unfair!

p0rtia · #1565

Pretty sure. when we get the transcript, it will be clear that it was Cohen who called Gina.

For one thing, it sounds like Cohen's modus opereandi. For another, seems unlikely that fuckhead would make such a call.

cf Katie Phang's version:

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Chilidog · #1566

On the other hand, I'm sure Conen made it clear who he was calling on behalf of.

#1567

MN-Skeptic wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2024 4:56 pm Every time I hear Trump complaining about the cold courthouse room, I remember my mother's wise words:

Dress accordingly!

Geez, how old is he? What a whiny baby!

I went to Google Translate to translate MAGA to English.

I typed in the MAGA word "fighter" and it returned, "whiny baby."

#1568

Ignore the title! It is out of context. The judge commenting agreed with Merchan’s ruling and explains why.

Rolodex · #1569

Ooh I bet turnip was just seething (if he wasn't asleep) when that exchange happened. He couldn't even attach Cohen in the moment. I wonder if he lawyers use a "device" for impulse control as well as waking him up.

#1570

I learned a new legal term from a tweet today - Contemnor

A contemnor is a person who is found to be in contempt of court. A party becomes a contemnor by ignoring/disobeying a court order. Contemnors are subject to court sanctions and punishments.

If the contemnor is held in civil contempt of court, they can avoid sanctions entirely by complying with the initial court order. If the contemnor is held in criminal contempt of court, they are subject to sanctions regardless of whether they ultimately choose to comply with the court order or not.

So Trump is a contemnor.

#1571

It was grimly amusing that both Michael Popok and retired Justice Barbara Jaffe stumbled when the discussion turned to the differences between civil and criminal contempt. It's a topic that's subtle and tricky, the kind of thing I've never been able to keep straight for very long after I've studied up on it.

#1572

Same here, chancery. It's a tricky topic. I had a case involving contempt in a civil case in which the judge put my client and the opposing client both in jail. I learned that day about arrogant, abusive judges who say things they totally forget. He told my client in fervent tones to come to court any time her ex harassed her when he issued a permanent domestic relations order of protection then threw her in jail!

#1573

MN-Skeptic wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 12:27 pm I learned a new legal term from a tweet today - Contemnor

A contemnor is a person who is found to be in contempt of court. A party becomes a contemnor by ignoring/disobeying a court order. Contemnors are subject to court sanctions and punishments.

If the contemnor is held in civil contempt of court, they can avoid sanctions entirely by complying with the initial court order. If the contemnor is held in criminal contempt of court, they are subject to sanctions regardless of whether they ultimately choose to comply with the court order or not.
So Trump is a contemnor.

He's not just a contemnor, he's a contumacious contemnor.

#1574

Estiveo wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 1:53 pm
MN-Skeptic wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 12:27 pm I learned a new legal term from a tweet today - Contemnor

A contemnor is a person who is found to be in contempt of court. A party becomes a contemnor by ignoring/disobeying a court order. Contemnors are subject to court sanctions and punishments.

If the contemnor is held in civil contempt of court, they can avoid sanctions entirely by complying with the initial court order. If the contemnor is held in criminal contempt of court, they are subject to sanctions regardless of whether they ultimately choose to comply with the court order or not.
So Trump is a contemnor.
He's not just a contemnor, he's a contumacious contemnor.

He is also a bag of hot farty air*.

* I learned this fancy wordage from Stern.

#1575

True.