US v. Trump - Espionage Act - (9:23-cr-80101) District Court, S.D. Florida
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I've been reading Jack Smith's filing regarding fuckhead's complaints about and demands for more more more discovery. Kind of an amazing document, because, among other things, Smith takes the time to lay bare for us, Cannon, and posterity, the defense's plan to try to introduce claims of bias and political motivations (yes the same ones that have popped up in other cases) as a defense. Smith styles it an attempt to introduce a selective prosecution defense and a call to jury nullification.
What I'm sticking in here is the verrrry lengthy section in response to the defense's Requests for “Production of CCTV Footage.” This. Is. Hilarious. In a low key, snowballing, boring legalese way. (Hope it's not only me that enjoys stuff like this.) You might wonder why this verrry long explanation is here at all, because, frankly, it could be summed up in four sentences--and then you realize it is only here because is reveals the defense to be lying fucking idiots. And that is the point.
Using Spoiler Text or whatever, because it is verrrry long. Grab a cup of coffee.
What I'm sticking in here is the verrrry lengthy section in response to the defense's Requests for “Production of CCTV Footage.” This. Is. Hilarious. In a low key, snowballing, boring legalese way. (Hope it's not only me that enjoys stuff like this.) You might wonder why this verrry long explanation is here at all, because, frankly, it could be summed up in four sentences--and then you realize it is only here because is reveals the defense to be lying fucking idiots. And that is the point.
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And the judge ain’t exactly a Rhodes scholar.You might wonder why this verrry long explanation is here at all, because, frankly, it could be summed up in four sentences--and then you realize it is only here because is reveals the defense to be lying fucking idiots.
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Jeebus Chreest, they are freaking morons. Morans, even.p0rtia wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2024 7:28 pm I've been reading Jack Smith's filing regarding fuckhead's complaints about and demands for more more more discovery. Kind of an amazing document, because, among other things, Smith takes the time to lay bare for us, Cannon, and posterity, the defense's plan to try to introduce claims of bias and political motivations (yes the same ones that have popped up in other cases) as a defense. Smith styles it an attempt to introduce a selective prosecution defense and a call to jury nullification.
What I'm sticking in here is the verrrry lengthy section in response to the defense's Requests for “Production of CCTV Footage.” This. Is. Hilarious. In a low key, snowballing, boring legalese way. (Hope it's not only me that enjoys stuff like this.) You might wonder why this verrry long explanation is here at all, because, frankly, it could be summed up in four sentences--and then you realize it is only here because is reveals the defense to be lying fucking idiots. And that is the point.
Using Spoiler Text or whatever, because it is verrrry long. Grab a cup of coffee.
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Yes:p0rtia wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2024 7:28 pm What I'm sticking in here is the verrrry lengthy section in response to the defense's Requests for “Production of CCTV Footage.” This. Is. Hilarious. In a low key, snowballing, boring legalese way. (Hope it's not only me that enjoys stuff like this.) You might wonder why this verrry long explanation is here at all, because, frankly, it could be summed up in four sentences--and then you realize it is only here because is reveals the defense to be lying fucking idiots. And that is the point.
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a lawyer working only off a tablet? Though I admit that manufaturers like HP or Microsoft offer top tier products that come near in funtionality but not in power and peripherals. One would a$$ume a lawyer were able to aquire such office hardware without the government subsidiary of a Obamaphone Bidenphone Biden laptop. would that perhaps even be Hunter Bidens laptopDuring the call, counsel for De Oliveira explained that he did not own or have access to a laptop or desktop computer and was instead attempting to review the entirety of the Government’s discovery on a handheld tablet. Id. The Government then offered to lend him a laptop computer to facilitate his review. Id. Counsel for De Oliveira accepted the offer, and on November 1, 2023, the Government hand-delivered a computer to him
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I don't know how one can run even a tiny business without a computer in this day and age. I don't know who De Oliveira's lawyer is, but even a one lawyer practice would have enough of a record keeping and word processing requirement that a computer and printer would be imperative. Also, too, how does a lawyer prepare briefs without access to online services such as Lexus/Nexus and online court dockets?RTH10260 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2024 9:39 pm from P0rtias Spoiler sectiona lawyer working only off a tablet? Though I admit that manufaturers like HP or Microsoft offer top tier products that come near in funtionality but not in power and peripherals. One would a$$ume a lawyer were able to aquire such office hardware without the government subsidiary of a Obamaphone Bidenphone Biden laptop. would that perhaps even be Hunter Bidens laptopDuring the call, counsel for De Oliveira explained that he did not own or have access to a laptop or desktop computer and was instead attempting to review the entirety of the Government’s discovery on a handheld tablet. Id. The Government then offered to lend him a laptop computer to facilitate his review. Id. Counsel for De Oliveira accepted the offer, and on November 1, 2023, the Government hand-delivered a computer to him
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Isn't this a trump-provided attorney? Only the best.
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I mean, there's a lot you can do with a tablet (like access Lexus/Nexis and online dockets), but they don't have near as much storage or processing power.
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No computer
No ability
Etc
Just pathetic attempts at delay
Of course if they had claimed the dog (or Donnie) had eaten the footage that might have been more believable
No ability
Etc
Just pathetic attempts at delay
Of course if they had claimed the dog (or Donnie) had eaten the footage that might have been more believable
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It’s a great filing but unfortunately it’s to Judge Cannon. She won’t care or give it any credence.p0rtia wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2024 7:28 pm I've been reading Jack Smith's filing regarding fuckhead's complaints about and demands for more more more discovery. Kind of an amazing document, because, among other things, Smith takes the time to lay bare for us, Cannon, and posterity, the defense's plan to try to introduce claims of bias and political motivations (yes the same ones that have popped up in other cases) as a defense. Smith styles it an attempt to introduce a selective prosecution defense and a call to jury nullification.
What I'm sticking in here is the verrrry lengthy section in response to the defense's Requests for “Production of CCTV Footage.” This. Is. Hilarious. In a low key, snowballing, boring legalese way. (Hope it's not only me that enjoys stuff like this.) You might wonder why this verrry long explanation is here at all, because, frankly, it could be summed up in four sentences--and then you realize it is only here because is reveals the defense to be lying fucking idiots. And that is the point.
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This case will never go to trial prior to the election IMO if ever
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It’s true you can do a lot on a tablet. But I couldn’t imagine drafting pleadings on a tablet (unless the tablet is a Surface Pro, which is really more like a laptop and should be able to do whatever he needs it to do). Nor could I imagine doing many of the other tasks I had to do, like keeping a calendar, keeping track of billing, managing a conflicts database, and this is the big one — maintaining electronic client files, which could be thousands of pages (the last 10 years of my practice was all by .pdf). I guess it’s possible, but I think it’s so unlikely I’m calling bullshit.W. Kevin Vicklund wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2024 10:19 pm I mean, there's a lot you can do with a tablet (like access Lexus/Nexis and online dockets), but they don't have near as much storage or processing power.
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Are you being unfair? Remember, Judge Cannon is the Defense Judge in this case, it is the responsibility of the Prosecution Judge to support the prosecution team.
Oh wait! That's not how the adversarial system works, is it?
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someone needs to mention out loud that he read on the interwebs that Judge Engoron will be moving to FL asap and be promoted to Federal Court and so it must be true ...
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My favorite is how they accuse the gov't of "altering the raw data" (oh, the horrors of...video file compression...) and then add the genius argument that the purpose of the alteration was to make the videos unviewable.Dave from down under wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2024 10:30 pm No computer
No ability
Etc
Just pathetic attempts at delay
Of course if they had claimed the dog (or Donnie) had eaten the footage that might have been more believable
Like many here, I provide a lot of casual computer help to friends and relations. So I (we) can see the utter ineptitude of these various defense lawyers, and their instinct to view their own (impossible!) ignorance as the malfeasance of others. And that's MAGA all over.
OT, just because: I have a friend who is trying to contact Amazon. I explained that yes, they hide the page where you enter your phone number and they call you, but that it is findable, and I explained how to find it. A month passes. No dice. I then sent him bloody screen shots of each page on the Amazon website, with brief, clear instructions to back up the visuals. Another month passes. He can't do it.
At least he admits his inability. Imagine if he said instead that Amazon, or possible The Government, had him on a black list that banned him from accessing Amazon phone help. Oh wait...I've heard that one dozens of times too over the years.
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Maybe the lawyer doesn't have a computer because it was seized as evidence? LOL
I think even the Lincoln Lawyer has a laptop in the Lincoln.
I think even the Lincoln Lawyer has a laptop in the Lincoln.
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Judge Cannon has made a decision and her intent is to publish court submissions without redaction, eg those names and things Jack Smith wants to keep out of public cause sensitive.
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Tribe thinks this could be the last straw. I doubt it, but hope springs eternal.
https://x.com/tribelaw/status/1755282847353483396?s=20
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Laurence Tribe 🇺🇦 ⚖️ @tribelaw wrote: I’m hopeful this will trigger a motion to remove her. The 11th Circuit might well agree this was the last straw. Compromising national security is a bridge too far.EssenViews @essenviews wrote: Jack Smith could seek to remove Aileen Cannon for granting Trump's request to access unredacted classified papers. https://newsweek.com/jack-smith-could-s ... st-1867665
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Here is a link to Jack Smith's response to Cannon's order to reveal classified documents -
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap ... .294.0.pdf
Mueller, She Wrote's entire tweet thread on Smith's response -
Kyle Cheney also posted a 3-tweet thread on this reply but includes screen shots of the reply which makes it more unwieldy for posting here. It starts here - https://x.com/kyledcheney/status/1755845018546221262
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap ... .294.0.pdf
Mueller, She Wrote's entire tweet thread on Smith's response -
(That link is at the top of this post.)Mueller, She Wrote
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BREAKING: THREAD: Jack Smith has filed a motion for Judge Cannon to RECONSIDER her recent ruling that would unseal witness names & the substance of their testimony, putting them at significant risk of immediate threats and intimidation. 1/
Smith says that trump attached protected discovery information to court filings to shift the burden to the government to prove sealing is necessary & that Cannon wrongly decided witness safety/grand jury secrecy/integrity of the trial are not good enough reasons to seal. 2/
Smith says Cannon was WRONG in 2 respects & should reconsider. He then cites the 11th circuit, which has bench slapped Cannon before. 3/
"First, the 11th Circuit has held that the compelling-interest standard applied by the Court does NOT apply to “documents filed in connection with motions to compel discovery,” which instead may be sealed or redacted simply upon a showing of “good cause". 4/
I think this citation is important because I think Jack Smith is saying "If I appeal this to the 11th circuit, they're going to reverse your ruling if you don't do it now" because Cannon applied the WRONG LEGAL STANDARD. Then he gives the 2nd reason she's wrong. 5/
Smith says she needs to change her ruling to "prevent manifest injustice." Cannon's erroneous order would ID over two dozen people who would otherwise remain anonymous, or will face threats over their testimony. 6/
"Reconsideration is warranted to correct CLEAR ERROR & prevent MANIFEST INJUSTICE." Basically, trump attached protected discovery (witness names) to a motion to compel so he could ask Cannon to unseal them. A sneaky way to get a list of witnesses against him out to the public. 7/
Some of the things the government wants to remain under seal: witness interviews, including a transcript of one witness that didn't want to be recorded, citing the risks from "trump world", plus information about obstruction and witness intimidation. 8/
Transcripts of interviews detailing the process of finding attorneys for two individuals. I imagine this has to do with trump allies getting lawyers for other trump allies or defendants. 9/
Expert testimony about the Mar a Lago search, including information about the location of trump's son's bedroom. 10/
Jack Smith was allowed to attach an exhibit of threats made online to witnesses - threats that are currently under federal criminal investigation. I don't have the filing yet on court listener to link, but here's PACER link. I'll add it when I get it. END/
Kyle Cheney also posted a 3-tweet thread on this reply but includes screen shots of the reply which makes it more unwieldy for posting here. It starts here - https://x.com/kyledcheney/status/1755845018546221262
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Outrageous. Isn't this like her first trial? Either she's playing games, knowing the government will have to go back to the 11th, thereby delaying more, or she's clueless. I'm afraid Realist is right. And based on today, I'd expect a selective prosecution motion any minute to delay things further.As explained below, the Court applied the wrong legal standard and issued orders that, in practice, will expose witnesses and others to intolerable and needless risk
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But it's what Trump told her to do!
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I don't know if they can, but it would make sense if some of those witnesses wrote to her to beg to keep their identity secret out of fear of the proven threats that trumpfans cause.
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She's really leaving Smith with no choice but to get the 11th circuit to smack her down again.
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