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Volkonski wrote: Sat Dec 09, 2023 4:17 pm Looks like he is wearing a shrunken head. :roll:
Or a death mask.
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Seeing a lot of this. Stone recorded talking about death to Swalwell and/or Nadler.

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The Republican operative and close Donald Trump ally Roger Stone reportedly told an associate one of two prominent Democratic congressmen “ha[d] to die before the election” in 2020.

“It’s time to do it,” Stone said, according to Mediaite, which cited a recording the outlet reported was made at a Florida restaurant.

“Let’s go find Swalwell. It’s time to do it. Then we’ll see how brave the rest of them are. It’s time to do it. It’s either Nadler or Swalwell has to die before the election. They need to get the message. Let’s go find Swalwell and get this over with. I’m just not putting up with this shit any more.”

Eric Swalwell, from California, and Jerry Nadler, from New York, are both members of the House judiciary committee.

Swalwell is a prominent anti-Trump voice and a magnet for Republican attacks. As judiciary chair, Nadler oversaw Trump’s first impeachment, for seeking political dirt in Ukraine.
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There's a crime in that gobblygook isn't there?
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Reading on, Stone says the voice was generated via AI, but that can be verified, yes?
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I believe Roger Stone is AI.
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Resume18 wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 3:16 pm I believe Roger Stone is AI.
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Flashback.
Enough! @StopTrumpTerror wrote: Have you heard Roger Stone threatening to send the Proud Boys after Ted Lieu?
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John Thomas8 wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 1:14 pm There's a crime in that gobblygook isn't there?
Possibly. The law is exceptionally nuanced in this area.

In most places, a threat requires that the statement was willfully made with the intent to threaten; that it was made to another person; that it was intended to be understood as a threat; that the threatener had the present ability to carry out the threat; and a reasonable person would be put in fear by the threat.

So the words are going to matter, and what was in his head are going to matter. I can see a prosecutor not wanting to press this. Stone and the other guy would likely say he was only joking, nobody took it seriously, etc.
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Maybenaut wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 5:43 pm
John Thomas8 wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 1:14 pm There's a crime in that gobblygook isn't there?
Possibly. The law is exceptionally nuanced in this area.

In most places, a threat requires that the statement was willfully made with the intent to threaten; that it was made to another person; that it was intended to be understood as a threat; that the threatener had the present ability to carry out the threat; and a reasonable person would be put in fear by the threat.

So the words are going to matter, and what was in his head are going to matter. I can see a prosecutor not wanting to press this. Stone and the other guy would likely say he was only joking, nobody took it seriously, etc.
I was hoping his "body of work" would make it obvious he wasn't joking but I can see a DA not bothering. Given what's happening to judges and other DAs in cases with magants, I'd be hesitant, too.
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Maybenaut wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 5:43 pmSo the words are going to matter, and what was in his head are going to matter. I can see a prosecutor not wanting to press this. Stone and the other guy would likely say he was only joking, nobody took it seriously, etc.
Too also, and for similar reasons, there also was no conspiracy.
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Oh my. The dirty, Dirty Trickster.
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I am assuming his earlier pardon by TFG was not broad enough to cover any offense this constitutes.And I am glad of it.
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Ben-Prime wrote: Tue Jan 16, 2024 7:01 pm I am assuming his earlier pardon by TFG was not broad enough to cover any offense this constitutes.And I am glad of it.
Stone's pardon was specific to his conviction.

As if it was drafted by the Office of People Who Know How to Pardon (and not White House toadies). :think:
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bob wrote: Tue Jan 16, 2024 7:04 pm
Ben-Prime wrote: Tue Jan 16, 2024 7:01 pm I am assuming his earlier pardon by TFG was not broad enough to cover any offense this constitutes.And I am glad of it.
Stone's pardon was specific to his conviction.

As if it was drafted by the Office of People Who Know How to Pardon (and not White House toadies). :think:
Yeah, you can see how I might have wondered whether it was just written as:

"Roger Stone did nothing wrong."

and signed by TFG.
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My best guess is the whole damn thing was handwritten with a sharpie
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My bromance with Roger Stone continues (see Laura Loomer topic). Roger is now following me on X and we're pals. :lol:

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My vote is for you, Roger. You know what it takes to win. But if not, Devin Nunes. Matt Gaetz or Mike Flynn. Saw this about George Santos but he seems a little risky.


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The Lincoln Project @ProjectLincoln wrote: BREAKING: Roger Stone on tape discussing the assassination of two prominent Democrats, which he denied ever doing.
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Popular Liberal 🇺🇸 @PopularLiberal wrote: LOCK TRUMP UP NOW: Roger Stone leaked video footage calling Ivanka Trump an "abortion b*t*h daughter" and supporting Donald Trump's impeachment.

Stone also admits to threats within Trump's administration, justifying his impeachments as criminal acts. Republicans intend to maintain power against the will of the people. Remember this when voting.
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Ron Filipkowski @RonFilipkowski wrote: Shockingly, the jacket isn’t the worst part of this clip.
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It's Roger Stone. Why is that shocking?
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/a- ... 40bb&ei=27
A Storm Foretold (BBC Four) gives us front row seats for the entire build-up to the January 2021 attack on the Capitol in Washington, DC. The ringmaster at the podium may have been Donald Trump, but the éminence grise behind it all is this documentary’s subject, Roger Stone.

How Danish film-maker Christoffer Guldbrandsen persuaded this infamously private man to give him such access, from 2018 until the very last day of Trump’s presidency, is one of the film’s most impressive mysteries. Stone clearly expects some kind of back end – midway through he asks Gulbrandsen what financial gain will come to him if he continues with the film – but is also enough of an egomaniac to assume that he will end up controlling the narrative. What mesmerises in the closing stretch is watching him fail to control it whatsoever.
The white-haired Svengali puts up a front of absolute sangfroid: mocking, self-assured, chomping on vast cigars, and boasting of being the one man able to manipulate Trump over the years without him knowing. Stone’s favourite tipple – a silver martini, minus the olive – is a recipe adapted from his great hero, Richard Nixon. Bridging the gap between Nixon and Trump in US politics, Stone clings to a credo of “admit nothing, deny everything” and refuses with stunning braggadocio to accept any truth he can’t count as a win.

He was already preparing to declare electoral fraud in the event of Trump losing in 2016. He coined the phrase “Stop the Steal” preemptively, before it was turned into a mantra by aggrieved voters four years later. Both times, it was presumed that any election result that went to the Democrats would need to be categorically in dispute – with Stone well prepared in the event of Biden prevailing to fan the flames of a dangerous, undemocratic coup.

When the barriers were overturned and the Capitol’s steps stormed, the film puts us right there in Washington with Stone, nursing his wounds in a hotel room, after being stood down from a scheduled public address by Trump’s minions. He pecks at his phone with outstretched fingers, his busy lower jaw starting to grind and agitate.

From here to the end, Guldbrandsen captures Stone boiling with impotent rage, first at the perceived snub, then Trump’s effrontery at parroting his slogans, and finally at the waiting game of expecting amnesty as the clock ticks down on the administration. In real time, we witness an unhinged volte face: Stone turns against Trump, demanding impeachment for what he deems an unthinkable betrayal.

It doesn’t shock us that an affiliation founded on peddling lies turns out to be this fragile: Stone’s loyalty to Trump only extends as far as self-interest will allow it, and vice versa. Spying backstage on the machinations of Trump’s inner circle, the film alleges a level of corruption so predictable it’s almost cartoonish. The disregard for fundamental principles of democracy is entrenched enough that if November doesn’t go Trump’s way, America will surely have to brace itself.

A Storm Foretold is on BBC Four tonight at 9pm; and on BBC iPlayer now
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Uninformed wrote: Sat Dec 09, 2023 4:14 pm
NewMexGirl wrote: Sat Dec 09, 2023 3:42 pm Who is Stone’s buddy in that picture?
Forgiato Blow

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I'm coming back to this because I happened upon an old video of his, where his girlfriend tries to leave him, he strangles and shoots her, puts her in plastic bags, and dumps her. Same guy who thought rainbow shirts would make kids gay or something. The horror of the gay. (Not only is the subject of the snuff video horrifying, but the lyrics, "music," voice, and autotune are horrible.)

I didn't realize he's a trust fund baby, the grandson of the founder of Auto Trader magazines. Why someone who had all the advantages chooses to look and sound like the stereotype of a trailer park resident escapes me. (Note I say "stereotype.") His family must be proud.

His real name is Kurt Jantz. He had a mediocre "music" (using term loosely) career until he latched onto Stone/tfg, whereby he was able to get the attention he and his amazingly bad tattoos crave. Pitiful.
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