Arizona behaving badly and otherwise

[neeneko]

Rep. Paul Gosar (R-AZ): “Biden’s national drug control strategy is 150 pages. The words ‘God’ and ‘faith’ are not mentioned one time.

So effing what?

Heh. I read this as an extreme example of entitlement and expecting to be centred. How can such a long and important document not mention us and our priorities! People like this seem to be used to being included in anything important.

[Tiredretiredlawyer]

It also doesn't have the words "complete and utter moron" or "raving fuckwit."

Or…
dogs and cats
Living together
Flying Spaghetti Monster

[Atticus Finch]

Nor is God and faith in the U S Constitution.

[raison de arizona]

Nor is God and faith in the U S Constitution.

Not in the most holiest of holies US Constitution?!

Blasphemy!

good observation!

[raison de arizona]

The Woke is strong with the American Library Association. Apparently.

[Slim Cognito]

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

—Martin Niemöller

[p0rtia]

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[raison de arizona]

Nick Fuentes? Q Shaman? How could this go wrong? They originally had Baked Alaska speaking as well, but, whelp, he's in jail so that isn't going to happen. AZ College Rs have some issues.

Chansley said this in court

Men of honor admit when they're wrong. Not just publicly but to themselves . . .

And

I was wrong for entering the Capitol. I have no excuse. No excuse whatsoever. The behavior is indefensible.

So he was full of shit then as he is now. I wonder what the terms of his early release were?

So this happened.

More fabulous signs from the Love Is Louder Than Hate Rally. All attendees had to pass right past the rally to get to the venue. #NoH8inAZ

Event speaker & insurrectionist “Q Anon Shaman” Jake Chansley came over to engage for a few minutes.

We tried to get him to bail on speaking & join us instead, no luck but after listening to his nonsense for awhile he did hold a “No Nazis sign before choosing to speak to them.

[Gregg]

I'm sure he was getting paid, but not if he doesn't show up. I don't think the guy is too bright, is easily manipulated and is just now making better money as a personality than he's ever made in his life.

[Kriselda Gray]

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[Suranis]

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Uh ya but Trade Unionists and Socialists weren't persuading kids that their Anxiety, ADD, Depressions and other issues were signs of another condition that would require invasive procedures that would cause medical issues that will last the rest of their lives, fuck up their brain development (Purity blockers are being shown to interfere with the development of Teenage logic and advanced brain development, Shock Horror I'm so surprised) and cause other lifelong issues. Not to mention create an elite clique in the schools that have a group of Bullies that the teachers are afraid to say boo to. Because if they so much as raise their voice to these little monsters they will have charges of discrimination thrown on them.

And ya that's happening in schools where my Nieces and Nephews are going to school. This happening in real life.

And I know you are going to say "But they are assessed before Gender affirming treatment". But in the 1970s and 80s doctors assessed Abusive Priests and pronounced them safe to to back into the community for ministry. And the doctors that classed kids as having being abused by their parents and teachers when they actually weren't. But the Doctors pushed kids to say they were abused with leading questions. So "being assessed" means jack shit as far as I am concerned. Getting put on drugs and having Mastectomies after one interview is not "being assessed."

In other words, the ACTUAL message of Noemeller's quote is that people are complicit with their silence when Evil is being perpetrated onto others. So by pretending everything is ok when things are manifestly wrong, you are perpetrating and condoning evil. Because I don't see any of you or any of these "trans activists" lifting a finger to help when these kids have to live with lifelong pain and mental health issues. They will be forgotten when another trendy thing hops along and people will even say they are faking it. Just like the Doctors that said Pedo Priests were safe were conveniently forgotten.

And this is worse because YOU are silencing people who dare point out that this is Evil.

And all you are doing by squashing down your own deep misgivings is driving people into the arms of those spreading hatred as they are the only ones publically saying this thing which is manifestly wrong is wrong. Where else will they go for support? And you cant dare even whisper the slightest doubt as YOU will be instantly blacklisted by people trying to cover up THEIR misgivings.

You cant even point out,without getting shouted down, that the "Womens Sports Records" achieved by "Trans Women" are actual standard mens results. Who is doing to "speak out" about the women who busted their ass to get to the top of their sport only to be kicked of the podium by some guy who slapped on some lipstick and a couple of bags of Silicone?> Who have been threatened that they cant say a word of complaint about this or else. Who speaks for them?

So you are helping the rise of hatred all over the world by denying people their valid and justified misgivings and anger. In order to "be tolerant" you are silencing and alienating people all over the place. The only place people are allowed to express those rational feelings and rational doubts is at a fucking Trump rally.

[sugar magnolia]

Interesting rant from someone who is neither a medical professional nor a psychologist, but you sure do jump on the false information bandwagon awfully quick.

[neonzx]

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Uh ya
So you are helping the rise of hatred all over the world by denying people their valid and justified misgivings and anger. In order to "be tolerant" you are silencing and alienating people all over the place. The only place people are allowed to express those rational feelings and rational doubts is at a fucking Trump rally.

Wowser, bro. I don't think your rant has the impact you intended.

You are a devout Irish Catholic. Why did you not say something/do something and instead allowing those thousands of abuses and scandals to be swept under the rug for decades?

Where is the true evil? Can we look to the church?

[Suranis]

First They Came For.jpg

Uh ya
So you are helping the rise of hatred all over the world by denying people their valid and justified misgivings and anger. In order to "be tolerant" you are silencing and alienating people all over the place. The only place people are allowed to express those rational feelings and rational doubts is at a fucking Trump rally.

Wowser, bro. I don't think your rant has the impact you intended.

You are a devout Irish Catholic. Why did you not say something/do something and instead allowing those thousands of abuses and scandals to be swept under the rug for decades?

Where is the true evil? Can we look to the church?

Thank you for you whataboutism. In the 1970s and 1980s I was in school, and the only people sexually abusing me were 2 teenage boys behind the sheds at school. But thank you for thinking I was causing all the abuse like George Soros caused all the Jews in Europe to be killed at 9 years old.

But I'm 51 now, and I AM speaking out.

[Gregg]

I'm not gonna 'what about..." you, it's a trait I despise.

But I am gonna say a few things.

I'm gonna say it is almost always none of my damn business what another person, family and their medical professionals decide as a method of healthcare for them and their family. I'm not that kind of Doctor and I'm not gonna argue with one who is, or his patients and their families. NOT ANY OF MY BUSINESS beyond assuring that they are free to make it theirs alone.

I am gonna say that the "trans athletes" scare annoys the hell out of me, I have read somewhere that in any given state in the US at the High School Level where the Republicans are going out of their fucking minds about, the number of athletes involved is counted on your fingers, not the hoards of mediocre men who want to set records in the women's category. Put an asterisk next them, whatever, but if the kid wants to play softball, let the kid play softball. Helicopter parents trying to get their kid a scholarship to UCLA aside, High School sports, most especially women's high school sports, are not the biggest problem in an education system that insists we each kids the benefits of being enslaved. (Free training, Free Cruise, Room and Board Internships!)

It is a totally foreign concept to me, I can not fathom transgenderism nor homosexuality. But NONE OF MY BUSINESS.

Finally, I'm gonna say, that even in todays much more than ever in history understanding society, coming out as "deviant" in almost anyway from the Cis-hetero norm is such a traumatizing experience, I have to give the kids a little bit of a pass and take it as written that if they are willing to be "That kid" (and I shy from using the actual things they'd call them) from whatever age you come until your 50th High School Reunion, you have to be pretty sincere on what you want to be. I sure as hell couldn't do it and I have read that the suicide rate for those who can't handle the pressures of trying is much higher than it is for us ''normal'' people. I can't imagine that gets any easier if you're "that kid who won the league swimming championship".

Dog bless 'em, let 'em play and leave them alone FFS.

[MN-Skeptic]

I'm gonna say it is almost always none of my damn business what another person, family and their medical professionals decide as a method of healthcare for them and their family. I'm not that kind of Doctor and I'm not gonna argue with one who is, or his patients and their families. NOT ANY OF MY BUSINESS beyond assuring that they are free to make it theirs alone.



Dog bless 'em, let 'em play and leave them alone FFS.

[Resume18]

Whenever someone says something offends their deeply-held religious beliefs, I hear, therefore, you shouldn't do it, and the best response to that of course, is go eff yourself.

[p0rtia]

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/po ... dium=email

Frederick Francis Goltz, who threatened Arizona election officials, sentenced to 3 years in prison
'Someone needs to get these people AND their children,' defendant wrote on social media.
Jose R. Gonzalez
Sasha Hupka
Arizona Republic

A Texas man was sentenced by a federal judge Thursday to three and half years in prison for threatening two Maricopa County officials and their families in relation to the 2022 election.

Frederick Francis Goltz, 52, of Lubbock, pleaded guilty on April 21 to one count of interstate threatening communication in targeting Republican officials, County Recorder Stephen Richer, County Attorney's Civil Division Chief Tom Liddy and poll workers, according to federal court records.

U.S. District Judge James Wesley Hendrix, an appointee of former President Donald Trump, sentenced Goltz to 42 months in prison and three years of supervised release.

According to court documents — filed Dec. 16, 2022, in the U.S. Attorney’s Northern District of Texas — Goltz made threats against Richer, his wife and children on social media. Goltz also made threats on social media against Liddy and his children.

Much more at the link. Excellent read.

[Suranis]

Gee, look who is bringing up religious beliefs. Because it wasn't me. I was bringing up SCIENCE and the rights and equality of women athletes.

And I'm sure that the women that are getting left behind by that "handfull of mediocre men" are really happy that its just a handful that are winning the races they are busting their ass to compete in, and they are not allowed to say that they are pissed off about it.

Its not "oh, let them live their lives." This affects other people. They are directly affecting the lives of other athletes with their actions.

But the feelings and rights of women are now suddenly unimportant to you, aren't they?

In the real world, Athletics organizations outside the idiotic USA are starting to ban this shit, because its stupid and affects other peoples lives. Not because of southern redneck religious beliefs.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2023/ ... ter-review

[Resume18]

Gee, look who is bringing up religious beliefs. Because it wasn't me . . .

I wasn't referencing your post; if I was, I'd quote it. I was referring to the bigots who use their religion to shield themselves in their bigotry.

[RTH10260]

city and landlord

[Chilidog]

Finchem loses again


https://www.documentcloud.org/documents ... -fernandez

[Grumpy Git]

Report claiming ‘excess’ Biden votes doesn’t show fraud
https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-001029664507

[raison de arizona]

In today’s episode of Shit Just Got Real…

Gov. @katiehobbs in a letter to @votewarren says she will no longer send nominees to the committee created by the Senate to review them, will pursue "other lawful avenues." Cites partisan nature of the committee and slow nature of it as reasons.

Story:

https://x.com/ArizonaMirror/status/1706 ... 15315?s=20

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