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You'da thunk they'd have an, ahem, dress rehearsal. But that would acknowledge Musk isn't the soooper geeeenius he thinks he is.
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Slim Cognito wrote: Thu May 25, 2023 9:20 pm You'da thunk they'd have an, ahem, dress rehearsal. But that would acknowledge Musk isn't the soooper geeeenius he thinks he is.
Normally you would do some stress testing before an event like this, but when you fire 97% of the team for the product, I expect the remaining 3% is far too busy just trying to keep the lights on to do a meaningful stress test.
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Slim Cognito wrote: Thu May 25, 2023 9:20 pm You'da thunk they'd have an, ahem, dress rehearsal. But that would acknowledge Musk isn't the soooper geeeenius he thinks he is.
Right here is the problem. Neither Musk nor DeSantis wanted to wear a dress. :biggrin:
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:lol:
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Foad Dabiri, head engineer at shitwittler, resigns one day after desatan's debacle:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technolo ... r-AA1bHFw7

He did not go into detail about why he was leaving.

His company was left highly embarrassed by Wednesday night's debacle, which saw Twitter unable to live-stream the audio of DeSantis's campaign launch, and a hot mic discussion with Twitter's owner Elon Musk and moderator David Sacks.

Musk and Sacks said the problems were due to 'server strain' and 'melting the servers', claiming that it was the largest event ever hosted online - but many pointed out that far larger events had been held without a hitch.
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John Thomas8 wrote: Thu May 25, 2023 11:03 pm Foad Dabiri, head engineer at shitwittler, resigns one day after desatan's debacle:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technolo ... r-AA1bHFw7

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Musk and Sacks said the problems were due to 'server strain' and 'melting the servers', claiming that it was the largest event ever hosted online - but many pointed out that far larger events had been held without a hitch.
:rotflmao: It's tfg and his biggest inauguration ever all over again, Musk has turned to alternative facts. What a turd.
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Tiredretiredlawyer wrote: Thu May 25, 2023 9:30 pm
Slim Cognito wrote: Thu May 25, 2023 9:20 pm You'da thunk they'd have an, ahem, dress rehearsal. But that would acknowledge Musk isn't the soooper geeeenius he thinks he is.
Right here is the problem. Neither Musk nor DeSantis wanted to wear a dress. :biggrin:
Ron did, but Casey wouldn't let him.

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The Associated Press @AP wrote: As the nation prepares for the 2024 elections, false claims that the 2020 presidential election was "rigged" continue to thrive on Twitter without being corrected, an analysis shows.
apnews.com wrote: False claims of a stolen election thrive unchecked on Twitter even as Musk promises otherwise…
Elon Musk @elonmusk wrote: Either back up your claims @AP with actual source data or retract your story
:lol: as if! Twitter is full of RWNJs whinging about the stolen election. :crazy:
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raison de arizona wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 4:31 am https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1659679224389836801
The Associated Press @AP wrote: As the nation prepares for the 2024 elections, false claims that the 2020 presidential election was "rigged" continue to thrive on Twitter without being corrected, an analysis shows.
apnews.com wrote: False claims of a stolen election thrive unchecked on Twitter even as Musk promises otherwise…
[highlight=yellow wrote:Elon Musk [/highlight]@elonmusk]
Either back up your claims @AP with actual source data or retract your story
:lol: as if! Twitter is full of RWNJs whinging about the stolen election. :crazy:
Dear Elon - did AP mention your failing social platform? Why are you so concerned - did they hint you are managing the company badly?
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https://twitter.com/aoc/status/1663599965698916371
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez @AOC wrote: FYI there’s a fake account on here impersonating me and going viral. The Twitter CEO has engaged it, boosting visibility.

It is releasing false policy statements and gaining spread.

I am assessing with my team how to move forward. In the meantime, be careful of what you see.
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Twitter is worth just a third of what Elon Musk paid, Fidelity says

https://mas.to/@cnexnews/110460717170263786
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Volkonski wrote: Wed May 31, 2023 1:01 am Axios

Twitter is worth just a third of what Elon Musk paid, Fidelity says

https://mas.to/@cnexnews/110460717170263786
I guess they are not a very good investment firm if they invested with him on the purchase.
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from the Axio article that is linked thru above Mastadon post:
Twitter only worth 33% of what Musk-led investors paid, Fidelity says

Rebecca Falconer
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Twitter is worth one-third of the amount it was when Elon Musk and co-investors bought the social platform for $44 billion, according to a new disclosure from Fidelity.

Driving the news: In Fidelity's latest Twitter markdown, the financial services giant estimated in a monthly report of portfolio valuations that the company is now worth about $15 billion, or 33% of the October purchase price, per a Bloomberg assessment Tuesday.

The big picture: Fidelity was among the group of outside investors that helped Musk finance the Twitter takeover and it has marked down the company's value twice since then.

Fidelity's Twitter stake, which now comes under Musk's X Holdings, was valued at almost $6.55 million as of late April.

Thought bubble, via Axios' Dan Primack: Although Fidelity again marked down Twitter shares, it's on a one-month lag. The interesting question is what Fidelity does for the month of May, when Musk announced that Linda Yaccarino would be the platform's new CEO. We won't get those marks until the end of June.




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I still think saying it's worth $8 billion is being generous.
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The new owners don't care. If you look at the list of investors it's pretty clear every single one is in some way an ally of the orange bag of pus. As long as Twitter can serve the same purpose this election as Facebook served in 2016 I don't think these filthy rich owners of Twitter give a damn. The new owners of Twitter have a vested interest in getting the orange pus bag back in the White House. And if for some reason they can't have him, DeSantis will do them just fine. Twitter will be even more effective at spreading disinformation than Facebook in 2016. That seems to be the new ownerships primary purpose. They are all people who know full well how to make a buck so it's not that they are losing money because they don't know full well what they are doing.
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Coulda gone in a couple of threads…


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Elon Musk allows domestic extremists back on Twitter, fueling national security concerns
This week alone, Musk has reinstated the accounts of an anti-semitic accelerationist extremist and a 'Unite the Right' Nazi.

Under Elon Musk’s leadership, Twitter this week welcomed back two infamous white supremacists with ties to violent extremist movements, continuing a disturbing trend that has resulted in increasing levels of hate speech on the platform and amplification of some of the nation’s most virulent extremists and hate figures.
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All of this, of course, is being done under the guise of “promoting free speech,” but the only type of speech that is actually being promoted is hate speech. In the seven months since Musk took over as CEO of Twitter, multiple studies have documented a rise in hate speech and concurrent failure to enforce policies prohibiting certain types of hateful content.

According to an analysis conducted by researchers at the University of Southern California’s Information Sciences Institute (ISI), after Musk took over the platform, the average daily quantity of hate speech doubled among accounts that post the most hateful content. This confirms an earlier report by the Southern Poverty Law Center and the Center for Countering Digital Hate, which found an “unprecedented” rise in hate speech in the first few weeks of Musk’s ownership of Twitter.
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The spike in racist, anti-Semitic, misogynistic, and anti-LGBTQ content is not just the result of letting extremists back on the platform and failing to enforce rules around hate speech; it’s also the product of algorithmic amplification, according to another recent report, which found that Twitter is actually promoting hate speech and extremism in its “For You” timeline. This directly contradicts Musk’s claims about Twitter being a neutral “free speech” platform, as well as his promise in Nov. 2022 that “negative/hate tweets will be max deboosted.” Twitter’s algorithms aren’t just deciding on their own to promote hate speech — that is a company decision, and it’s certainly not a neutral one.
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Techdirt: Twitter Admits in Court Filing: Elon Musk Is Simply Wrong About Government Interference At Twitter:
from the confirmation-idiocy dept

It is amazing the degree to which some people will engage in confirmation bias and believe absolute nonsense, even as the facts show the opposite is true. Over the past few months, we’ve gone through the various “Twitter Files” releases, and pointed out over and over again how the explanations people gave for them simply don’t match up with the underlying documents.

To date, not a single document revealed has shown what people now falsely believe: that the US government and Twitter were working together to “censor” people based on their political viewpoints. Literally none of that has been shown at all. Instead, what’s been shown is that Twitter had a competent trust & safety team that debated tough questions around how to apply policies for users on their platform and did not seem at all politically motivated in their decisions. Furthermore, while various government entities sometimes did communicate with the company, there’s little evidence of any attempt by government officials to compel Twitter to moderate in any particular way, and Twitter staff regularly and repeatedly rebuffed any attempt by government officials to go after certain users or content.

Now, as you may recall, two years ago, a few months after Donald Trump was banned from Twitter, Facebook, and YouTube, he sued the companies, claiming that the banning violated the 1st Amendment. This was hilariously stupid for many reasons, not the least of which is because at the time of the banning Donald Trump was the President of the United States, and these companies were very much private entities. The 1st Amendment restricts the government, not private entities, and it absolutely does not restrict private companies from banning the President of the United States should the President violate a site’s rules.

As expected, the case went poorly for Trump, leading to it being dismissed. It is currently on appeal. However, in early May, Trump’s lawyers filed a motion to effectively try to reopen the case at the district court, arguing that the Twitter Files changed everything, and that now there was proof that Trump’s 1st Amendment rights were violated. . . .

[L]ast week Twitter (which, again, is now owned by Elon Musk who has repeatedly made ridiculously misleading statements about what the Twitter Files showed) filed its response, where they say (with risk of sanctions on the line) that this is all bullshit and nothing in the Twitter Files says what Trump (and Elon, and a bunch of his fans) claim it says. This is pretty fucking damning to anyone who believed the nonsense Twitter Files narrative.
Twitter ... errr ... 'X' wrote:The new materials do not plausibly suggest that Twitter suspended any of Plaintiffs’ accounts pursuant to any state-created right or rule of conduct. As this Court held, Lugar’s first prong requires a “clear,” government-imposed rule. Dkt. 165 at 6. But, as with Plaintiffs’ Amended Complaint, the new materials contain only a “grab-bag” of communications about varied topics, none establishing a state-imposed rule responsible for Plaintiffs’ challenged content-moderation decisions. The new materials cover topics ranging, for example, from Hunter Biden’s laptop, Pls.’ Exs. A.14 & A.27-A.28, to foreign interference in the 2020 election, Pls.’ Exs. A.13 at, e.g., 35:15-41:4, A.22, A.37, A.38, to techniques used in malware and ransomware attacks, Pls.’ Ex. A.38. As with the allegations in the Amended Complaint, “[it] is … not plausible to conclude that Twitter or any other listener could discern a clear state rule” from such varied communications. Dkt. 165 at 6. The new materials would not change this Court’s dismissal of Plaintiffs’ First Amendment claims for this reason alone.

Moreover, a rule of conduct is imposed by the state only if backed by the force of law, as with a statute or regulation. See Sutton v. Providence St. Joseph Med. Ctr., 192 F.3d 826, 835 (9th Cir. 1999) (regulatory requirements can satisfy Lugar’s first prong). Here, nothing in the new materials suggests any statute or regulation dictating or authorizing Twitter’s content-moderation decisions with respect to Plaintiffs’ accounts. To the contrary, the new materials show that Twitter takes content-moderation actions pursuant to its own rules and policies. As attested to by FBI Agent Elvis Chan, when the FBI reported content to social media companies, they would “alert the social media companies to see if [the content] violated their terms of service,” and the social media companies would then “follow their own policies” regarding what actions to take, if any. Pls.’ Ex. A.13 at 165:9-22 (emphases added); accord id. at 267:19-23, 295:24-296:4. And general calls from the Biden administration for Twitter and other social media companies to “do more” to address alleged misinformation, see Pls.’ Ex. A.47, fail to suggest a state-imposed rule of conduct for the same reasons this Court already held the Amended Complaint’s allegations insufficient: “[T]he comments of a handful of elected officials are a far cry from a ‘rule of decision for which the State is responsible’” and do not impose any “clear rule,” let alone one with the force of law. Dkt. 165 at 6. The new materials thus would not change this Court’s determination that Plaintiffs have not alleged any deprivation caused by a rule of conduct imposed by the State.
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"Who owns X Holdings Corp.?" should be easy to answer. :think:

Maybe George Santos' suretors? :towel:
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bob wrote: Sat Jun 10, 2023 12:48 am
"Who owns X Holdings Corp.?" should be easy to answer. :think:

Maybe George Santos' suretors? :towel:
Elon just filed a response with huge redactions & a request to seal.

RECAP should have tagged it, but hasn’t updated it yet. I bit the bullet & paid PACER is how I knows.

Edit: now it’s on recap https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67 ... itter-inc/
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Did the "investors" into his Twitter takeover ask for a slice of the X Holding? :think:
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Where will Elon find the staff to transfer from Google Cloud to Amazon or MS Azure :?: :think: :confuzzled:


Cause the EU will have a word with the boss if they drop those safety features protecting users.
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Ya know those ads that say "shingles don't care?"

Elon don't care.
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