fierceredpanda wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 10:51 pm
Her whole brand is going after Democrats who are insufficiently progressive.
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but rewriting history to claim that she is just vigorously pursuing her vision is ludicrous.
How are those different though? If she had gone in as a simple self promoter with no specific ideology I might agree, but her going after democrats that do not align with her vision kinda strikes me as vigorously pursuing it.
All in all, I think she is being politically pretty smart. She has been building a base and is working to demonstrate that she can wield it in a way that can be friend or foe, and while she has been critical of people in her own party, that is a big part of HOW she is building support since many rank and file democrats are also critical of their own party in the same way and this provides a structure for focusing that dissatisfaction without burning things to the ground.
fierceredpanda wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 10:51 pm
Her whole brand is going after Democrats who are insufficiently progressive.
.
.
.
but rewriting history to claim that she is just vigorously pursuing her vision is ludicrous.
How are those different though? If she had gone in as a simple self promoter with no specific ideology I might agree, but her going after democrats that do not align with her vision kinda strikes me as vigorously pursuing it.
All in all, I think she is being politically pretty smart. She has been building a base and is working to demonstrate that she can wield it in a way that can be friend or foe, and while she has been critical of people in her own party, that is a big part of HOW she is building support since many rank and file democrats are also critical of their own party in the same way and this provides a structure for focusing that dissatisfaction without burning things to the ground.
Don't get me wrong. I'm not a huge fan of AOC, but at least, unlike MJT and most republicans, AOC has some policy ideas. She has things she would like to accomplish that, at least in her mind, will help the environment and the people.
MJT and most republicans' policy idea is "we wuz robbed" and their dedication to permanent republican control of Congress and the White House.
I;'m not much of a fan of AOC or her policies, but the woman has one thing in her favour - she is a bloody hard worker. Shoe leather covers a lot of sins.
Suranis wrote: ↑Tue May 18, 2021 9:29 am
I;'m not much of a fan of AOC or her policies, but the woman has one thing in her favour - she is a bloody hard worker. Shoe leather covers a lot of sins.
Plus, she's trying to work the system, not blow it up.
Just to be a contrarian (not really), I am a big fan of AOC. I agree with much, if not most, of her policy ideas, I like that she is willing to fight for her positions, is able to, and does, make strong well-reasoned arguments in favor of them, and that she doesn't accept the "wait your turn little girl" attitude of too many of our fellow D/s and the talking heads. I like and respect her and the rest of the Squad.
"Mickey Mouse and I grew up together." - Ruthie Tompson, Disney animation checker and scene planner and one of the first women to become a member of the International Photographers Union in 1952.
We'z merely an organization. Dammit. We need 50 to be a movement.
"Mickey Mouse and I grew up together." - Ruthie Tompson, Disney animation checker and scene planner and one of the first women to become a member of the International Photographers Union in 1952.
Tiredretiredlawyer wrote: ↑Tue May 18, 2021 7:08 pm
We'z merely an organization. Dammit. We need 50 to be a movement.
And 75 million to become a cult...
I'll come in again...
"He sewed his eyes shut because he is afraid to see, He tries to tell me what I put inside of me
He's got the answers to ease my curiosity, He dreamed a god up and called it Christianity"
woodworker wrote: ↑Tue May 18, 2021 6:28 pm
Oh noes, that make three of us. Does that make us a movement according to Arlo Guthrie -- I can't remember.
Count me in too
Be assured that a walk through the ocean of most souls Would scarcely get your feet wet
woodworker wrote: ↑Tue May 18, 2021 2:24 pm
Just to be a contrarian (not really), I am a big fan of AOC. I agree with much, if not most, of her policy ideas, I like that she is willing to fight for her positions, is able to, and does, make strong well-reasoned arguments in favor of them, and that she doesn't accept the "wait your turn little girl" attitude of too many of our fellow D/s and the talking heads. I like and respect her and the rest of the Squad.
That's how I see it.
I'm Foggy and I forget if I approved this message.
We are on our way to a movement!!!!!! We have 5 humans plus woodworker's two cats. I have one cat, two dogs, and a horse. If we count granddogs and grand cats (4 + 1) the Squad organization now stands at 16.
And can you imagine fifty people a day? I said FIFTY people a day
Walkin' in, singin' a bar of "Alice's Restaurant" and walkin' out? Friends
They may think it's a Movement, and that's what it is THE Alices's
Restaurant anti-massacre movement! And all you gotta do to join is to
Sing it the next time it comes around on the guitar
With feelin'
You can get anything you want at Alice's restaurant
You can get anything you want at Alice's restaurant
Walk right in, it's around the back
Just a half a mile from the railroad track
You can get anything you want at Alice's restaurant
"Mickey Mouse and I grew up together." - Ruthie Tompson, Disney animation checker and scene planner and one of the first women to become a member of the International Photographers Union in 1952.
Tiredretiredlawyer wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 10:54 am
We are on our way to a movement!!!!!! We have 5 humans plus woodworker's two cats. I have one cat, two dogs, and a horse. If we count granddogs and grand cats (4 + 1) the Squad organization now stands at 16.
And can you imagine fifty people a day? I said FIFTY people a day
Walkin' in, singin' a bar of "Alice's Restaurant" and walkin' out? Friends
They may think it's a Movement, and that's what it is THE Alices's
Restaurant anti-massacre movement! And all you gotta do to join is to
Sing it the next time it comes around on the guitar
With feelin'
You can get anything you want at Alice's restaurant
You can get anything you want at Alice's restaurant
Walk right in, it's around the back
Just a half a mile from the railroad track
You can get anything you want at Alice's restaurant
Ya' want to end war and stuff, you got to sing LOUD!
Tiredretiredlawyer wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 10:54 am
We are on our way to a movement!!!!!! We have 5 humans plus woodworker's two cats. I have one cat, two dogs, and a horse. If we count granddogs and grand cats (4 + 1) the Squad organization now stands at 16.
And can you imagine fifty people a day? I said FIFTY people a day
Walkin' in, singin' a bar of "Alice's Restaurant" and walkin' out? Friends
They may think it's a Movement, and that's what it is THE Alices's
Restaurant anti-massacre movement! And all you gotta do to join is to
Sing it the next time it comes around on the guitar
With feelin'
You can get anything you want at Alice's restaurant
You can get anything you want at Alice's restaurant
Walk right in, it's around the back
Just a half a mile from the railroad track
You can get anything you want at Alice's restaurant
plus me and Tulip! 18
I feel sure Poohie would agree. Can we count angel cats?
"It actually doesn't take much to be considered a difficult woman. That's why there are so many of us."
Slim Cognito wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 4:17 pm
I've got a parrot that says trump is a dumbass.
Cool parrot!
"Choose your leaders with wisdom and forethought. To be led by a coward is to be controlled by all that the coward fears… To be led by a liar is to ask to be told lies." -Octavia E. Butler
"Mickey Mouse and I grew up together." - Ruthie Tompson, Disney animation checker and scene planner and one of the first women to become a member of the International Photographers Union in 1952.
Well then, add in another dozen or so for me, including my late Great Danes (Bentley, Peaches, IO and Berkeley) and English Mastiff (Bruin, a 225 pound gentle giant).