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Volkonski wrote: Wed May 31, 2023 9:00 am Chris Christie is about to announce his run for the Republican presidential nomination.
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https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-e ... -rcna87004
Former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie to announce his 2024 presidential campaign on Tuesday
This is the former governor' second run for the GOP presidential nomination.

May 31, 2023, 1:50 PM BST / Updated May 31, 2023, 3:22 PM BST
By Vaughn Hillyard and Summer Concepcion

Former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie is set to announce his 2024 presidential campaign Tuesday at a town hall in Manchester, New Hampshire, two sources confirmed to NBC News.

This is the second shot at the Republican presidential nomination for Christie, who stumbled to a sixth-place finish in the 2016 New Hampshire primary.

Axios was the first to report the timing of Christie's 2024 campaign announcement.
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The article mentions trump as much as they mention Christie. I'm not kidding. Its constantly Christie in relation to trump or talking about his work with trump or him critisisng trump. Its pathetic. Read it yourself and disagree with me if you want.

Christie is a powerful political figure with achievements in his own right. But NBC cant get its nose out of Trumps Diaper long enough to look at them. They stick 2 short paragraphs at the end about his career in general terms, and that's it.
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CNN reporting on air that Pence is in, will make it official next Wednesday.
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Kendra wrote: Wed May 31, 2023 3:15 pm CNN reporting on air that Pence is in, will make it official next Wednesday.
Really? Really? Really?

This is going to be such a mud-slinging contest. {'Mud' is a euphemism.]
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Kendra wrote: Wed May 31, 2023 3:15 pm CNN reporting on air that Pence is in, will make it official next Wednesday.
Mother approved this? :think:
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neonzx wrote: Wed May 31, 2023 3:45 pm
Kendra wrote: Wed May 31, 2023 3:15 pm CNN reporting on air that Pence is in, will make it official next Wednesday.
Mother approved this? :think:
It'll get him out of the house.
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https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/04/politics ... index.html
Nikki Haley, the former South Carolina governor and 2024 Republican presidential contender, sharply criticized the party’s top-polling candidates in a CNN town hall in Iowa on Sunday.

Former President Donald Trump, Haley’s former boss when she served as ambassador to the United Nations, was wrong, she said, to defend the actions of his supporters at the US Capitol on January 6, 2021 – which she called a “terrible day.”
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https://mas.to/@cnexnews/110494820821828625

Progressive scholar Cornel West announces he's running for president with a third party
“If everyone fought for their own convictions there would be no war.” ― Leo Tolstoy, War and Peace
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Volkonski wrote: Mon Jun 05, 2023 10:16 pm Progressive scholar Cornel West announces he's running for president with a third party
"For completeness," said party being The People's Party, aka the Draft Bernie Party.
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Former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie filed paperwork to run for president, injecting a dose of anti-Trump criticism into a Republican primary field that has largely been reluctant to cross its leading candidate.

Christie, 60, was set to personally announce his campaign Tuesday evening during a town hall event in Manchester, New Hampshire, the state where his last presidential bid came undone.
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538: Why Some Republican Candidates Might Not Make The Debate Stage:
On Friday, the Republican National Committee released its debate qualification criteria for the party’s first debate on Aug. 23, 2023. The RNC’s guidelines, which establish candidate polling and fundraising thresholds, are pretty similar to Democratic National Committee’s at the start of the 2020 cycle. However, there are a few additional twists and specifications — most notably, the requirement that candidates pledge to support the party’s eventual nominee and the criteria for determining which polls count toward qualification — that could limit the field.

To make the debate, the RNC will require candidates to meet four separate requirements. First, a contender must be a declared [and eligible] candidate who has filed with the Federal Election Commission. Second, a candidate must have earned 1 percent support in three national polls, or in two national polls and at least one poll of the GOP’s first four states, recognized by the RNC and conducted in July and August. Third, a candidate must have at least 40,000 unique contributors to their presidential campaign committee, with at least 200 from 20 states and/or territories. And lastly, a candidate must sign three documents: a pledge to support the GOP’s eventual nominee, a data-sharing agreement with the RNC and a pledge to not participate in any debates not sanctioned by the RNC.

So given these requirements, who would make the stage if the debate were held today? Currently, six candidates are at 1 percent or higher in FiveThirtyEight’s national polling average: former President Donald Trump, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, former Vice President Mike Pence (expected to announce his candidacy on June 7), former U.S. Ambassador to the U.N. Nikki Haley, tech entrepreneur Vivek Ramaswamy and South Carolina Sen. Tim Scott. Though the polls taken up until this point won’t count toward debate qualification, these candidates seemingly have good shots at being at 1 percent in July and August surveys. And they can probably attract or already have sufficient donors, as even the lesser-known Ramaswamy recently announced he had met the donor threshold.

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However, the RNC is starting out with a lower threshold for unique donors than the DNC did in 2019 — 40,000 versus 65,000 — which may reflect the GOP’s comparatively lower amount of small-donor fundraising. Nonetheless, some lesser-known Republican contenders, such as former Arkansas Gov. Asa Hutchinson and radio personality Larry Elder, expressed frustration with even that comparatively lower figure, viewing it as a serious barrier to their qualification chances.
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P&E: Navarro: Republican Primary Contenders Part of “Cartel” Engaging in “Chess Match” against Trump:
In his “Taking Back Trump’s America” podcast Wednesday, Trump White House Director of Trade and Manufacturing Policy Peter Navarro, one of the former president’s staunchest supporters, assigned a role to many of the declared 2024 Republican primary presidential candidates, the media and other players in what he described as the “Never-Trump Cartel” working to defeat 45th president Donald J. Trump in his bid to return to the White House.

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That “cartel,” he said, comprises “a Dark Money Koch Network, Big Pharma vax peddlers, and Democrat Wall Street billionaires who hedge their political bets by funding Republicans. . . .

Other members of the “cartel,” Navarro said, are such media organizations as CNN, MSNBC, and the “Fox News Empire.” In Navarro’s view, social media platforms are not exempt, as he included in the group Meta CEO and Facebook co-founder Mark Zuckerberg. Referring to the Democrat multi-billionaire as “Mark Zuckerbucks,” Navarro reminded his listeners that Zuckerberg “spent vast sums to defeat Trump in 2020.”

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During the podcast Navarro included in the anti-Trump cabal Twitter owner Elon Musk, describing him as “the richest man in America who has offshored his largest Tesla factory to China.”

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Navarro further posited that three-term New Hampshire Gov. Chris Sununu, who on Tuesday announced he would not seek the presidency in 2024, and U.S. Sen. Tim Scott of South Carolina, who is a candidate, “will use their home team advantages to try to blunt the ‘inevitability’ of a Trump victory” in their two respective states, which hold early primaries.

He theorized Scott is actually positioning himself to be a vice-presidential candidate to whoever, between Trump or Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, wins the Republican nomination.

Sununu, who is openly hostile to the specter of another Trump presidency, is a “shadow ‘non-candidate,'” Navarro wrote, and a “Dark Knight” whose singular purpose will be “to take away the New Hampshire Primary punch bowl from Trump.”

“The cartel’s corporate media,” Navarro continued, “will provide him with a huge megaphone for his ‘anybody but Trump rants’; and he knows he need not formally be on the ballot to deprive Trump a big Granite State victory.”

Although DeSantis was once a staunch Trump supporter as Trump noted on his TruthSocial account earlier this week, Navarro described him as “leader of the Never-Trump Cartel pack” in the wake of his predicted entry into the 2024 presidential race after receiving two endorsements from Trump.

Trump’s Ambassador to the United Nations and former South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley’s “rimary mission is to peel away Republican women from Trump,” Navarro said, and that “Ultimately, Haley hopes a strong showing in the primary may lead to VEEP redemption if Trump falters.”

Former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, who filed his presidential papers on Tuesday, is “ABC’s designated Trump Hitter,” according to Navarro, albeit on a “kamikaze mission.” Further, Navarro said, Christie “is one of pack [sic] of former Trump Loyalists who switched sides after the November 2020 election, only to be rewarded with well-paid, Trump-bashing media gigs.”

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Navarro went on to opine that additional “sacrificial pawns” include Trump’s vice president, Mike Pence, who said at his campaign launch in Iowa Wednesday that Trump “put himself over the Constitution” when he asked Pence to decline to certify the reported results of the 2020 election.

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Navarro posed the possibility of former Wyoming Rep. Liz Cheney entering the race, furthering her “blood feud” with Trump. While serving what would be her final year in Congress, Cheney voted in favor of Trump’s second impeachment and was one of two Republicans on the House committee purportedly established to investigate the circumstances surrounding the incident at the Capitol, particularly as they involved Trump.
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Miami Mayor Suarez is throwing his hat in the ring soon, and he's an interesting mixer in the Republican chute.
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RNC shuts down Hutchinson’s push to amend loyalty pledge amid Trump indictment drama
The candidate complained about pledging to back a possible “convicted felon.”

Top Republican Party officials have a message for any candidate worried about signing a loyalty pledge to potentially support a convicted felon: There’s the door.

Despite at least one candidate expressing concerns about the Republican National Committee’s requirement that they support the eventual nominee in order to qualify for the debate stage this summer, the committee said there will be no changes to its protocols.

In light of Donald Trump’s indictment for his handling of classified documents, former Arkansas Gov. Asa Hutchinson’s campaign on Wednesday requested a meeting with RNC officials about amending the loyalty pledge, according to two people with knowledge of the conversation granted anonymity to speak candidly about a private conversation. .
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Patagoniagirl wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 7:21 pm Miami Mayor Suarez is throwing his hat in the ring soon, and he's an interesting mixer in the Republican chute.

Ob. birther: Suarez was born in the United States, but his father was born in Cuba. I presume at least his father naturalized before his mother gave birth.
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Former Rep. Will Hurd (R-Texas) on Thursday became the latest Republican to throw their hat in the ring for the 2024 GOP race for president.

Hurd made the announcement during an appearance on “CBS Mornings,” joining what has become a crowded field of GOP candidates, including former President Trump and Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis.

Hurd said during the appearance that he has formally filed with the Federal Election Commission to run for the Republican nomination.

“This is a decision that my wife and I decided to do because we live in complicated times and we need common sense,” he added. “There are a number of generational-defining challenges that we’re faced with in the United States of America.”

Hurd spent six years in the House as a more moderate member of the Republican Conference and has often been a critic of Trump.
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I created new threads for Suarez and Hurd. Do I have threads for every declared candy date so far?
Out from under. :thumbsup:
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I heard on MSNBC this morning that Rick Scott is mulling a run, nothing official yet.
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Foggy wrote: Fri Jun 23, 2023 8:50 am I created new threads for Suarez and Hurd. Do I have threads for every declared candy date so far?
Can we have Sarah Palin back too also ;)
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Kendra wrote: Fri Jun 23, 2023 9:06 am I heard on MSNBC this morning that Rick Scott is mulling a run, nothing official yet.
He is watching the numbers for desantis, if they keep falling, he may enter the race. He can't get the votes, but he can take the big donor support.
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Foggy wrote: Fri Jun 23, 2023 8:50 am I created new threads for Suarez and Hurd. Do I have threads for every declared candy date so far?
Technically, no: every election hundreds of people complete the declaration paperwork. Because it is a rather low barrier.

As of right now, there are 47 active presidential candidates.

What separates a vanity campaign from a longshot is subjective. :towel:

One "interesting" candidate is John Castro; per the Independent (UK):
In January of 2023, a Texas man named John Anthony Castro filed a suit against Mr Trump, seeking to have him declared ineligible to seek the White House under the 14th Amendment, which bars those who have participated in insurrections from holding office. Mr Castro, a relative unknown on the national stage, is running for president himself.
We briefly discussed this lawsuit when it was filed.
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Foggy wrote: Fri Jun 23, 2023 8:50 amDo I have threads for every declared [major] candy date so far?
:fingerwag: : Dr. Oskar Cats, Esq.:


More seriously, until the relevant polls come out, 538 developed its own criteria; its conclusions:
Trump, DeSantis, former U.N. Ambassador Nikki Haley, former Vice President Mike Pence and Sen. Tim Scott are slam dunks: They meet nine out of nine criteria. Former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie also easily qualifies, meeting all of the criteria except endorsements.
Maybes: Hutchinson, Ramaswamy, Burgum, Suarez, and Hurd.

Feggitaboutit: Laffey, Johnson, Binkley, Elder, and Stapleton.
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Vivek Ramaswamy is starting to find out that, while he hates the same people as the rest of the far right does, while he wants to disemfranchise the same people, and while he's just as cruel and nasty as the rest of the far right, the people he wants to vote for him have a problem.

He's not a Christian. Or even the far-right's perversion of "christian".

GOP prez candidate Vivek Ramaswamy leans into his Hindu faith to court Christian voters
"Bristol Smith, a manager at a McDonald's in Maryville, Tennessee, came across Vivek Ramaswamy's name this spring, shortly after Ramaswamy, an entrepreneur, announced he was running for president. Smith was intrigued. He liked the way Ramaswamy "stands up against the wokeness". Then Smith, 25, searched for Ramaswamy's faith. Smith is an evangelical Christian who recently started a small church. "I looked up his religion and saw he's Hindu," he recalled. "I was going to vote for him until that came up."
Even Nimarata Nikki Randhawa Haley had to give up her childhood Hindu faith in order to become the lying sack of Republican filth we've all come to know and loathe. And she's just as unlikely to get people to vote for her for President because, while she's one of the "good ones", she's still too brown for the GOP base's taste. Even if Vivek Ramaswamy was to convert and change his name to "Victor Ramsey", he's still too wavelength absorbent for the GOP's taste.
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patgund wrote: Mon Jul 10, 2023 1:54 pmEven if Vivek Ramaswamy was to convert and change his name to "Victor Ramsey", he's still too wavelength absorbent for the GOP's taste.
But he's trying!; NPR:
I'm not here to convince you that I'm a Christian because I'm not. But what I am here to convince you of is the truth that we still share those same Judeo-Christian values in common. And I live my life accordingly.

I was raised in a two-parent household with the focus on education, with a focus on God, with a nuclear family, as the unit of governance that mattered most to us. That showed us that the love of family opens you, opens your heart up to the love of God. And we raise our two children, my wife and I do, in the same way. We live our lives according to Christian values.

And I'm not running to be somebody's pastor. I'm running to be the president. But I'm running to be a president who recognizes that we are one nation under God, that recognizes the Judeo-Christian values on which this country was founded. Values that I also deeply share.

I can stand up for those values without anybody accusing me of being a Christian nationalist or whatever labels one might use. I think that that actually puts me in a better position to represent the values that undergird this country, including Judeo-Christian values that we share in common better than someone who's shy about it or feels pressure to apologize for it, because it's not popular in our culture to be a Christian.

What I tell people is that actually I think I can make it cool to revive those values, those Christian values, family values in our culture again, because even as a religious Hindu, we grew up subscribing to those same values grounded in what it means to be a member of a family, a father and a household.
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