E. Jean Carroll v. Donald J. Trump and United States of America (poll added!)

[realist]

He still has plenty of time to fly to NYC. I don't have access to TruthSocial. I don't know what he is saying today. But I know he has to decide whether to testify or not.

I suspect he will not.

Off Topic

The only recent rant I've seen is this: He's ingratiating himself to Jack Smith.

[RTH10260]

I almost said he has to make a decision.

But he was in the UK, and they say "take a decision," not "make a decision".

I don't know where they take them.

Do you take some milk in your tea, Sir?

[SuzieC]

Didn't TFG have until 5 pm today to decide whether he will testi-lie? See chancery's post 10:25 am Friday. Have we heard anything?

[chancery]

We have not. It would be courteous of Tacopina to write to confirm that Trump has not changed his mind, because a judge like Kaplan probably wouldn't reject as untimely a letter that slid in at 6:45 just because it was 105 minutes late.



Edit: There can be lag between e-filing and a document showing up on Pacer. There shouldn't be more than a minute or two's lag, but it's my impression that there is sometimes a good deal more.

[RVInit]

After hearing about the testimony of the other women, and then seeing him double down on "if you are a star, they let you do it", "unfortunately or FORTUNATELY" I changed my vote. If the jury takes an honest look at what appears to have been testified to it seems likely they would agree that she more than proved 50% + that he did the very things she says he did.

[chancery]

https://lawandcrime.com/live-trials/e-j ... ling-with/

Adam Klassfield of Law & Crime has posted some fascinating interesting details from the transcript of the sidebars between counsel and Judge Kaplan last Thursday. Doesn't change anything, but it's interesting.

Hours after former President Donald Trump told reporters in Ireland that he’d fly back to New York to “confront” E. Jean Carroll in her civil rape and defamation case against him, his attorney emphatically denied to a federal judge that his client would testify.

“I know you understand what I am dealing with,” Trump’s attorney Joe Tacopina told Senior U.S. District Judge Lewis Kaplan during a sidebar conference on Thursday.

Trump’s remarks roiled his ongoing trial in a civil rape and defamation lawsuit brought by Carroll. The “Ask E. Jean” columnist claims that Trump sexually assaulted her inside a dressing room of the Bergdorf Goodman department store in the mid-1990s, then lied about it. Time and again, in a private huddle between the judge and lawyers, Tacopina affirmed his client won’t take the witness stand to answer those claims.

‘A fully fair trial’

Tacopina, who also represents the former president in his Manhattan criminal case, repeatedly denied that Trump would testify. The conversation took place outside the earshot of the press and jury, but a courtroom stenographer was still typing away.

Just before Tacopina’s remark, Judge Kaplan made clear that he didn’t believe Tacopina was misleading him over his client’s decision.

“I’m not implying dishonesty on your part,” Kaplan told Tacopina, according to the transcript.

Tacopina declined to comment on the transcript of the conversation.

In addition to attacking Carroll, Trump has repeatedly attacked the judge in public remarks and on social media. Even during the private huddle, the judge emphasized to Tacopina that he was trying to protect his client’s rights.

“I have issues, too, which is to run this trial fairly and appropriately, not to waste the jury’s time or anybody else’s time, and to make sure both sides, including your client, have a fully fair trial,” Kaplan said.

Carroll’s attorney Michael Ferrara, a former federal prosecutor, started to say that there was “no suggestion that Mr. Trump has not had a fully fair trial,” when the judge incredulously interrupted him.

“Oh, really,” Kaplan interjected.

Trump took a swipe at Kaplan earlier that day.

“I have to go back for a woman who made a false accusation about me, and I have a judge who’s extremely hostile,” Trump told reporters in Ireland. “And I’m going to go back and confront this woman. This woman is a disgrace, and it shouldn’t allowed in this country.”

Back in New York, Trump’s lawyer kept contradicting his client’s vow.

“I am going to rest,” Tacopina said during sidebar. “I’m telling you right now, I’m going to rest.”

Even though Tacopina followed through on that promise later that day, Carroll’s legal team said Trump’s unpredictability left them wondering whether they will need to prepare for cross-examination.

“I wonder about the idea that we will be wondering of the possibility, all weekend, that he is going to come in and testify,” Ferrara said.

Mike, I just told you he is not,” Tacopina shot back.

Judge Kaplan apparently remained unconvinced.

“Listen, I don’t know if he is,” said Kaplan, referring to whether Trump would testify. “I trust Mr. Tacopina’s word as being what he knows as of now—”

“As an officer of the court,” Tacopina said.

“But things in life change,” the judge continued. Kaplan noted that a defendant had changed his mind about testifying in a criminal case that Ferrara prosecuted as an Assistant U.S. Attorney.

As Ferrara emphasized, defendants have “different rights that attach” in a criminal case than in a civil case. In the civil case of Carroll v. Trump, the defendant waived his right to testify and be present through his attorneys.

After the sidebar ended, Carroll’s lawyers rested the plaintiff’s case. The jury was excused for the weekend, and Trump’s attorney followed suit.

“We rest, your honor,” Tacopina said — but that didn’t settle the matter.

Judge Kaplan questioned him about that maneuver, asking whether Trump’s attorneys conveyed the legal consequences of waiving testimony in a civil case and communicated with him directly. Tacopina confirmed that he did speak to Trump, just “two minutes before I went into court this morning.” The judge left the door slightly ajar for the former president to change his mind.

“I am absolutely committed in this case, as in every case, to ensure, to the best of my ability, that every party has a full and fair opportunity to pursue or defend against a claim asserted by or against that party,” Kaplan said.

The judge then gave Trump until Sunday afternoon to ask to reopen the case “for the purpose, and the sole purpose, of testifying as a witness in this case.”

‘News reports out of the British Isles’

After offering Trump that unusual allowance, Judge Kaplan noted, obliquely, that he’d taken “precautions” because of the former president’s quoted remarks. It was the first time Kaplan had addressed Trump’s out-of-court comments directly that day.

“As I am sure, Mr. Tacopina, you are aware, and probably everybody in this courtroom is aware, there have been news reports out of the British Isles — I guess they’re still called — all day, attributing to Mr. Trump various statements with respect to his possible presence here before this trial ends,” Kaplan said. “I won’t attempt to summarize them any further or comment in any way on the substance. But I have taken the precautions I have just taken in light of those statements.”



Trump has until Sunday at 5 p.m. ET to file a request to reopen the defense case. If he does not, the judge said, “that ship has irrevocably sailed.” Should the status quo hold, a jury will hear closing arguments on Monday.

[chancery]

https://twitter.com/lawofruby/status/16 ... 2488349701

Lisa Rubin
@lawofruby
Though @innercitypress gave me a scare with his 4:57 p.m. filing about media access, the court’s 5 p.m. deadline passed without any motion by Donald J. Trump to testify in his own defense. And at 5:01, Joe Tacopina exhaled like no lawyer has ever exhaled.

I don't agree that we were completely sure that the issue had been put to bed as of 5:01 pm, but it's getting much less likely with every passing minute.

[chancery]

I don't see any service alerts on the SDNY e-filing page.

[SuzieC]

"irrevocably sailed" seems final. Plus all of Taco's statements on the record.

[chancery]

Adam Klassfield of Law & Crime has posted some fascinating interesting details from the transcript of the sidebars between counsel and Judge Kaplan last Thursday. Doesn't change anything, but it's interesting.

Should the status quo hold, a jury will hear closing arguments on Monday.

I believe Klassfield is mistaken here. I thought it was charging conference on Monday, closing arguments on Tuesday. In fact, finishing that work in a single day strikes me as an extremely aggressive schedule.

In my limited experience with SDNY jury trials, we and opposing counsel would submit a combined document with proposed jury instructions about week before the charging conference, and the Judge's staff would take a few days after the conference to turn it around.

And a look at the May 4 docket entry shows that Klassfield was correct and I was not.

Unless otherwise directed by the Court, counsel shall report for the charging conference at 9:00 AM and closings will begin at 10:00 AM.

All I can think is that they've been working on the charges for a while. I guess the Monday charging conference is for counsel to put final objections to the instructions on the record.

[Slim Cognito]

trump is desperately racking all his aides' brains for a way to blame the judge for his not testifying.

[Phoenix520]

I wouldn’t put it past him to show up. Or at least go to Bedminster to visit Ivanka and give everyone a big scare.

[keith]

Didn't TFG have until 5 pm today to decide whether he will testi-lie? See chancery's post 10:25 am Friday. Have we heard anything?

Sure I'll testify. Its 4:58 did I get it on time? Great.

Please schedule my testimony session for June 8th 2037. Thanks for your cooperation.

Signed
//s Der Trumpersnitzel s//

[Volkonski]

Raw Story:
E. Jean Carrol judge 'called Trump's bluff' and forced his lawyer's hand: former prosecutor

By extending a deadline to late Sunday for Trump to commit to testify, Vance claimed the judge "called Trump's bluff."

Trump...telling people I have to cut my trip short ... to defend myself... "Literally within hours of him doing that, his lawyer is in court, telling the judge that he is done presenting his evidence
https://www.rawstory.com/trump-e-jean-c ... 659976085/

[much ado]

What pathetic excuse will Trump have for failing to confront his accuser?

[Ben-Prime]

What pathetic excuse will Trump have for failing to confront his accuser?

He accidentally showed up at Marla's door, instead. I mean, he's confused one for the other at least once already, right?

[Sam the Centipede]

Ah, I think many just "decide". Y'know, it means decisionify.

[Lani]

Monday will be interesting in the courthouse.

[Foggy]

Wait, he's not going to testify?

What a shocker! Hoya saxa, babydoll.

I voted more than a million dollars in the poll, and I'm stickin' with it.

[Maybenaut]

I voted liable for rape with damages less than a million, and I would reserve the right to change my vote after the instructions are read, but I’m not going to be around much the next couple of days because of music stuff. What I’m most curious to know is whether the instructions make the jury specify the offense under the battery charge. If they do, I’d vote liable for sexual misconduct or battery (I can totally see a jury saying something happened but we’re not calling it rape).

And whatever they base their finding of liability on, the jury isn’t going to lay the entire cost of her losing her job at Trump’s feet. Elle was looking to cut costs as it was, and she gave them a reason to fire her when she introduced her book through another outlet. So I’m at more than $1 but less than $1M.

It’s just a prediction. I’d be more than happy to be proved wrong.

[Foggy]

If they give her more than a million dollars, they get to go on CNN live, and do all the Sunday talk shows, and get interviewed by all the big (BIG) newspapers, and so forth. They might could get rich and famous.

However, if'n they only give her ten thousand, or maybe a hundred thousand dollars, they can get interviewed by Fish and Wildlife magazine, or maybe Popular Mechanics, and they won't be on the Tee Vee at all none.

And if they give it to Trump, they all go on Fox News instead.

I'd go to court really early on the last day, and park my car really close to the exit of the parking garage, so I could be the first one to the Tee Vee studio to tell my (highly lucrative) story.

[Foggy]

Tweets coming in, they're under way in the charging conference.

[realist]

Don’t know if this info has been posted but I missed it if so. It’s related to Trump not removing posts he was ordered to.

[Luke]

Lots of new materials were released, including the full 48-minute depo of the twice-impeached, one-term loser on trial for rape. Can't stand watching this creep, but in this case he's not in control so there's that.

[Foggy]

Harrumph, harrumph.

If'n the judge had brought in a couple Tee Vee cameras as bait, he might have been able to snag the elusive defendant. But how was anyone going to tempt him onto the witness stand without a camera in the courtroom?