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Dr. Ken wrote: Wed Apr 12, 2023 2:52 pm When all else fails sue everybody
"For completeness": the causes of action are breach of fiduciary duty; breach of contract (NDA); breach of implied covenant of good faith (essentially, tort relief in case there was no valid contract); unjust enrichment; and conversion.

The ask is $500,074,000; don't forget the $74k for the conversion claim!

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somerset wrote: Wed Apr 12, 2023 4:20 pm This means he's really, really good. Right?

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Could this lawsuit be a back door approach to prevent Cohen from testifying in the criminal trial in New York, or in the alternative, discredit him before he takes the stand?
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humblescribe wrote: Wed Apr 12, 2023 5:13 pm Could this lawsuit be a back door approach to prevent Cohen from testifying in the criminal trial in New York, or in the alternative, discredit him before he takes the stand?
Too slow a method to discredit.

Revenge and witness tampering is my opinion.
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I can't imagine Bragg indicting the OSG if Cohen were his only ace in the hole.
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somerset wrote: Wed Apr 12, 2023 4:20 pm This means he's really, really good. Right?

https://www.top100highstakeslitigators. ... dro-brito/
Alex has been listed in “The Best Lawyers in America” publication since 2006 and has received a Peer Review rating of “AV” by Martindale-Hubbell, indicating the highest level of legal ability and ethics. Alex has been recognized in the South Florida Legal Guide’s Top Lawyers and Florida Trend Magazine’s Legal Elite. In addition in 2010, Alex was a Finalist for the Most Effective Lawyer in Miami, as awarded by the Daily Business Review and was also named one of the “Top 20 Professionals Under 40” by Brickell Magazine.
(It looks like he's now in practice for himself)
Aren’t all these lists/magazines ones you pay to have your name in?
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I’m assuming Cohen knows where the crime-fraud exception line is, and likely every conversation he had with Trump is on the wrong side of it.

Most if not all of this stuff he’s testifying to he’s already said in his plea negotiations and his allocution in federal court. This lawsuit isn’t going anywhere.
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Dave from down under wrote: Wed Apr 12, 2023 5:25 pm
somerset wrote: Wed Apr 12, 2023 4:20 pm This means he's really, really good. Right?

https://www.top100highstakeslitigators. ... dro-brito/
Alex has been listed in “The Best Lawyers in America” publication since 2006 and has received a Peer Review rating of “AV” by Martindale-Hubbell, indicating the highest level of legal ability and ethics. Alex has been recognized in the South Florida Legal Guide’s Top Lawyers and Florida Trend Magazine’s Legal Elite. In addition in 2010, Alex was a Finalist for the Most Effective Lawyer in Miami, as awarded by the Daily Business Review and was also named one of the “Top 20 Professionals Under 40” by Brickell Magazine.
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Aren’t all these lists/magazines ones you pay to have your name in?
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Maybenaut wrote: Wed Apr 12, 2023 5:26 pm I’m assuming Cohen knows where the crime-fraud exception line is, and likely every conversation he had with Trump is on the wrong side of it.

Most if not all of this stuff he’s testifying to he’s already said in his plea negotiations and his allocation in federal court. This lawsuit isn’t going anywhere.
Shouldn't that be allocution, Maybenaut?

Probably that gosh darn spellcheck that is the bane of my existence..... :towel:
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humblescribe wrote: Wed Apr 12, 2023 6:16 pm Shouldn't that be allocution, Maybenaut?

Probably that gosh darn spellcheck that is the bane of my existence..... :towel:
I typed allocution but it changed it!

I’m stickin’ with that…
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Michael Cohen’s lawyer Lanny Davis accuses Trump of “abusing the judicial system as a form of harassment and intimidation” with his $500 million lawsuit.

Updated story,
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Nothing like an attempt at "witness intimidation" like a Taxes Cheat attempt at witness intimidation
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Trump v Cohen Complaint wrote:14. Among other innumerable positive statements made by Defendant about Plaintiff and his role as Plaintiff’s attorney, Defendant described his job as “very surreal,” claiming he had “been admiring Donald Trump since [] high school.”2 Defendant viewed Plaintiff as a “wonderful man” who would be “an amazing president,”3 and someone Defendant thought “the world” of as “a businessman” and “a boss.”4

15. Defendant stated that Plaintiff was “smart,” and “the greatest negotiator on the planet,”5 and described his own role as the one “who protects the President and the family,” and strongly stated that he “would take a bullet” for Plaintiff.6
We know the audience for that section and it ain't a judge.
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humblescribe wrote: Wed Apr 12, 2023 5:13 pm Could this lawsuit be a back door approach to prevent Cohen from testifying in the criminal trial in New York, or in the alternative, discredit him before he takes the stand?
Cohen has been doing the Unforgivable sin - Talking badly about mR. tRUMP on television. All the rest is incidental.
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He's either on something, or he is off whatever they use to perk him up for interviews,
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northland10 wrote: Wed Apr 12, 2023 7:50 pm
Trump v Cohen Complaint wrote:14. Among other innumerable positive statements made by Defendant about Plaintiff and his role as Plaintiff’s attorney, Defendant described his job as “very surreal,” claiming he had “been admiring Donald Trump since [] high school.”2 Defendant viewed Plaintiff as a “wonderful man” who would be “an amazing president,”3 and someone Defendant thought “the world” of as “a businessman” and “a boss.”4

15. Defendant stated that Plaintiff was “smart,” and “the greatest negotiator on the planet,”5 and described his own role as the one “who protects the President and the family,” and strongly stated that he “would take a bullet” for Plaintiff.6
We know the audience for that section and it ain't a judge.
Hahaha

Your honour Mr Cohen does not deny making those statements, indeed those statements speak to the veracity of Mr Cohen’s evidence for that evidence does not spring from enmity.
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same as seen by the NYT
Trump Sues Michael Cohen, the Key Witness Against Him
The lawsuit, filed in federal court in Florida, accuses Mr. Cohen of revealing Mr. Trump’s confidences and “spreading falsehoods” about him.

By Maggie Haberman, Ben Protess, William K. Rashbaum and Jonah E. Bromwich
April 12, 2023 Updated 8:21 p.m. ET

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Donald J. Trump on Wednesday filed a lawsuit against his former fixer, Michael D. Cohen, just weeks after being indicted in a case in which Mr. Cohen is expected to serve as a star witness.

The lawsuit, filed in federal court in Florida, accuses Mr. Cohen of revealing Mr. Trump’s confidences and “spreading falsehoods” about him. It directly references Mr. Cohen’s role in the Manhattan district attorney’s criminal case against Mr. Trump, which stems from a hush-money payment Mr. Cohen made on the former president’s behalf in the run-up to the 2016 presidential election.

The case, while potentially far-fetched, suggests that Mr. Trump may be seeking to silence Mr. Cohen.

“It could be an attempt to pressure Michael Cohen not to testify, but that pressure is unlikely to work,” said Ellen C. Yaroshefsky, a professor specializing in legal ethics at Hofstra University’s law school.

She added that she did not think the lawsuit amounted to witness tampering under New York law, as it was not a direct attempt to interfere with Mr. Cohen’s testimony, and other legal experts concurred.

Yet in a statement on Wednesday, Mr. Cohen’s lawyer, Lanny J. Davis, argued, “Mr. Trump appears once again to be using and abusing the judicial system as a form of harassment and intimidation.” He added that Mr. Trump was apparently “terrified by his looming legal perils and is attempting to send a message to other potential witnesses who are cooperating with prosecutors against him.”

Christopher M. Kise, a lawyer representing Mr. Trump in a civil case that was brought by the New York attorney general and that Mr. Cohen’s testimony helped initiate, lashed out at Mr. Cohen, suggesting that he had lied in the past to various officials.

“He’s lied to everyone he’s ever come in contact with,” Mr. Kise said. “So at some point someone needs to hold this serial liar accountable.”

Mr. Trump’s lawsuit, brought by Alejandro Brito, a lawyer in Coral Gables, Fla., seeks significant punitive damages against Mr. Cohen, but it seemed possible that the case would backfire. Last year, when the former president filed the lawsuit against the New York attorney general, Letitia James, who has sued Mr. Trump and his family business, some members of his legal team objected. There was similar dissent among his lawyers over whether to sue Mr. Cohen, people with knowledge of the matter said.




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Trump Rips Letitia James as He Heads to Her Office to Testify
The former president will be deposed in the $250 million fraud lawsuit brought by New York Attorney General Letitia James


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The former president is in Manhattan on Thursday to answer questions under oath in a lawsuit brought by New York Attorney General Letitia James. The $250 million suit accuses Trump and three of his children of “numerous acts of fraud and misrepresentations” related to their business in the state. The case is expected to go to trial later this year.

Trump was deposed in the case once before, last summer, before James brought the suit. He wasn’t interested in answering questions, invoking the Fifth Amendment hundreds of times. The former president doesn’t seem like he’s going to be in a mood to answer questions on Thursday, either.

“I will be heading downtown to meet with a Racist who leaked that I would be there at 9:30 A.M.” he wrote Thursday morning on Truth Social. “The leak makes it much more difficult for the Police and Secret Service to do their job. This civil case is ridiculous, just like all of the other Election Interference cases being brought against me. If I had a fair judge, this case would have never happened. MAGA!”

Trump has been trying desperately to cast the myriad investigations into his conduct as “election interference,” while labeling the Black people investigating him — including James, Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg, and Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis — as racist. Trump was in Manhattan last week to plead not guilty to 34 felony counts of falsification of business records brought by Bragg in a historic indictment of the former president. Willis is investigating whether Trump meddled in Georgia’s 2020 presidential election.

The investigation that could pose the biggest threat to Trump, however, may be the Justice Department’s probe into his handling of sensitive material upon leaving the White House, which is being overseen by Special Counsel Jack Smith. The New York Times reported on Wednesday that investigators are now asking witnesses whether Trump showed off a map with classified information to people who shouldn’t have seen it. Smith, who was appointed by Attorney General Merrick Garland last fall, is also investigating the effort to overturn the 2020 election results.
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The lawsuit, filed in federal court in Florida, accuses Mr. Cohen of revealing Mr. Trump’s confidences and “spreading falsehoods” about him. It directly references Mr. Cohen’s role in the Manhattan district attorney’s criminal case against Mr. Trump, which stems from a hush-money payment Mr. Cohen made on the former president’s behalf in the run-up to the 2016 presidential election.

The case, while potentially far-fetched, suggests that Mr. Trump may be seeking to silence Mr. Cohen.
Oh, this is Trump playing eleventy dimensional chess against the fools in Manhattan who only prosecute persecute the best presidents in the history of the world and let all the real criminals go so they can kill and rob and say mean things about Trump.

He's got this. :thumbsup:
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I can’t wait for the day when the media decides to be blunt about who tfg really is.

Privately, most know him as petulant, ignorant, nativist, and mean, but you’d never know that by the totality of their reporting. He comes across as a regular guy when he’s anything but.
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Yeah, that's why I permanently gave up NPR. In 2016 I was yelling at my radio while driving around. He won in part because of that, and I'm not going back to see if they learned anything since then.
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Foggy wrote: Thu Apr 13, 2023 11:01 am Yeah, that's why I permanently gave up NPR. In 2016 I was yelling at my radio while driving around. He won in part because of that, and I'm not going back to see if they learned anything since then.
They haven't. They are very judicial in their reporting trying very hard not to convey any bias because their federal funding depends on it. They are under constant threat from the GOP. The days of public radio carrying the voices not heard are gone. Bothisidesism is the rule of the day.
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Phoenix520 wrote: Thu Apr 13, 2023 10:57 am I can’t wait for the day when the media decides to be blunt about who tfg really is.

Privately, most know him as petulant, ignorant, nativist, and mean, but you’d never know that by the totality of their reporting. He comes across as a regular guy when he’s anything but.
I think they are afraid of him, for whatever reason. They should not be.
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