trump (convicted felon, defamer, insurrectionist, contemnor, and rapist - $537M)

[MN-Skeptic]

Second, random failure to pronounce a required letter......this is American English, not French....... the word HERB is pronounced with a "H", not "erb", "herb".

In America the word herb - not Herb, the man's name - is pronounced erb.

It's just the way it is.

[sugar magnolia]

Down here, Miz First Name is MUCH more common than Miz Last Name. Even in business settings.

[much ado]

Second, random failure to pronounce a required letter......this is American English, not French....... the word HERB is pronounced with a "H", not "erb", "herb".

In America the word herb - not Herb, the man's name - is pronounced erb.

It's just the way it is.

Yes, the word 'herb', like the words 'hour', 'heir', 'honor' ('honour'), 'honest', came into English from Old French. The /h/ was not pronounced at the time they came into English, and the Americans have never added the /h/.

According to the Oxford English Dictionary:

Middle English: via Old French from Latin herba ‘grass, green crops, herb’. Although herb has always been spelled with an h, pronunciation without it was usual until the 19th century and is still standard in the US.

Americans never dropped the /h/; the British have added it. I suppose eventually the British may restore the /h/ to hour, heir, honour, and honest. Why not?

I'm a botanist. Related words 'herbarium', 'herbaceous', and 'herbal' (the book, not the tea) are pronounced by botanists with the /h/. I do not pronounce the /h/ in 'herb'. If someone asks "Is that a woody plant?", and it's not, I would reply "No, it's an erb" or "No, it's herbaceous". I am ambivalent about the tea, but I tend to say "herbal tea" with the /h/.

As MN-Skeptic says, it's just the way it is.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled thread...

[jemcanada2]

Did Melania really have a meal with tfg or did she send one of her doubles?

I thought she wasn’t speaking to tfg (again).

[Kendra]

HE’S JUST LIKE US! In his adult life, has Trump ever:

Been in the ocean
Made coffee
Played basketball
Lifted weights
Used a can opener
Played a board game
Ran
Gone fishing
Shot a gun
Gone swimming
Cooked a meal
Taken Barron out father-son
Repaired something
Been to a theme park
Been in a pool
Wore a tee shirt
Read Bible
Traveled to learn about a culture
Rode a bike

[Kendra]

[Slim Cognito]

Whaddya want to bet it's not even printed on plastic, just card stock.

[Volkonski]

Well while I've been an adult-

HE’S JUST LIKE US! In his adult life, has Trump ever:

Been in the ocean- Yes
Made coffee-Yes but I usually drink tea
Played basketball- No, never was athletic
Lifted weights- Yes during physical therapy
Used a can opener- Yes, often.
Played a board game- Yes
Ran- Yes
Gone fishing- Yes, when younger
Shot a gun- Never
Gone swimming- Yes
Cooked a meal- Yes, often
Taken Barron out father-son- Never had a son
Repaired something- Endlessly
Been to a theme park- Yes, many
Been in a pool- Yes
Wore a tee shirt- Yes
Read Bible- Yes but not for religious reasons
Traveled to learn about a culture- Yes
Rode a bike-Yes

[neonzx]

Whaddya want to bet it's not even printed on plastic, just card stock.

Likely. BUT, "membership has its privilege". Wasn't that a slogan for a card company at one time?

My Amex gold card is made of metal, so I am not in the market anyway.

[Frater I*I]

My Amex gold card is made of metal, so I am not in the market anyway.

You have Amex gold!!!!! What's that like

[somerset]

My Amex gold card is made of metal, so I am not in the market anyway.

You have Amex gold!!!!! What's that like

[neonzx]

HE’S JUST LIKE US!
Been in the ocean:Yep
Made coffee Yep, and served it to others too
Played basketball':Yep-badly
Used a can opener:I think I have gone through a dozen thus far
Played a board game:Only kinda games I play
Ran:Yep, but not fat
Gone fishing:Yep, but so boring
Shot a gun:Yes
Gone swimming:Yep
Cooked a meal:A lotta
Taken Barron out father-son:No sons, but I borrow as needed
Repaired something: Repaired water supply line last week.
Been to a theme park: Absolutely, including gay Disney World
Been in a pool:Yep
Wore a tee shirt : that is my daily attire.
Read Bible: Yep, have sitting 6 feet away from me
Traveled to learn about a culture: Absolutely and that is the best part of travel!!
Rode a bike: Yep

What do I win?

[neonzx]

My Amex gold card is made of metal, so I am not in the market anyway.

You have Amex gold!!!!! What's that like

It's "O.K." if used right and milk the benefits to offset the annual fee. I've had it since 2002 back when I was employed and traveling for work. Kept it.

[Frater I*I]

What do I win?

A kewpie doll....

[Ben-Prime]

Down here, Miz First Name is MUCH more common than Miz Last Name. Even in business settings.

One of my London local staff colleagues calls everyone "Young <First Name>". It has the dual purpose of avoiding any pronoun issues of which he may be ignorant *and* flattering the folks who are no longer young. He's ALMOST convinced me on it.

[bill_g]

HE’S JUST LIKE US! In his adult life, has Trump ever:

Been in the ocean - yes, three of them
Made coffee - yes, but never the perfect cup
Played basketball - ugh, terribly
Lifted weights - more ugh - I don't exercise like I should
Used a can opener - yep - electric, manual, and p38
Played a board game - oh yeah, big time Monopoly play as a kid
Ran - not a jogger - homey don't run
Gone fishing - plenty but not lately
Shot a gun - yes, but not in years
Gone swimming - yes, but not in years
Cooked a meal - daily - no one was harmed by my cooking
Taken Barron out father-son - some good memories there
Repaired something - more than I can remember - neighborhood handyman
Been to a theme park - not my favorite thing to do - hate crowds
Been in a pool - oh yeah
Wore a tee shirt - got a drawer full
Read Bible - yes, but not a scholar by any means
Traveled to learn about a culture - not really but usually learned something when there
Rode a bike - yes but not in years

[Tiredretiredlawyer]

Down here, Miz First Name is MUCH more common than Miz Last Name. Even in business settings.

An interesting piece of Miztory: In English society in the late 1700's, an unmarried woman was addressed by her last name - "Miss Bennett". If she had younger sisters, they were addressed by their first names - "Miss Elizabeth", "Miss Mary", etc. This let society know which sister was available for marriage.

Hubby is from south Arkansas and addresses some women as "Miss Mary", etc. My Dad and brothers never did that.

[somerset]

Off Topic

Down here, Miz First Name is MUCH more common than Miz Last Name. Even in business settings.

One of my London local staff colleagues calls everyone "Young <First Name>". It has the dual purpose of avoiding any pronoun issues of which he may be ignorant *and* flattering the folks who are no longer young. He's ALMOST convinced me on it.

I do something similar in the academic world. When in doubt, I'll address someone at "Dr. XXXX" It's gender neutral, and no one is offended by being called "Doctor," even if they don't have a Ph.D.

[Maybenaut]

Down here, Miz First Name is MUCH more common than Miz Last Name. Even in business settings.

An interesting piece of Miztory: In English society in the late 1700's, an unmarried woman was addressed by her last name - "Miss Bennett". If she had younger sisters, they were addressed by their first names - "Miss Elizabeth", "Miss Mary", etc. This let society know which sister was available for marriage.

Hubby is from south Arkansas and addresses some women as "Miss Mary", etc. My Dad and brothers never did that.

I get addressed as Ms. Firstie because my last name is hard (for many) to pronounce. I was in a waiting room the other day and the Misses Smith and Jones were called by their last names. People would rather risk maybe insulting my with my first name than definitely insulting me by butchering my last name, I suppose. I don’t really care.

[Kendra]

Tucker asks Trump about his experience at the NY courthouse: “I’ll tell you, people were crying. People that worked there professionally that have no problems putting in murderers .. they were crying. They were actually crying. They said, ‘I’m sorry.’”

[AndyinPA]

[Dr. Ken]

Whaddya want to bet it's not even printed on plastic, just card stock.

Likely. BUT, "membership has its privilege". Wasn't that a slogan for a card company at one time?

My Amex gold card is made of metal, so I am not in the market anyway.

my chase club card and amex gold card are both made of metal. They're a pain to dispose of when they expire.

[Resume18]

Tucker asks Trump about his experience at the NY courthouse: “I’ll tell you, people were crying. People that worked there professionally that have no problems putting in murderers .. they were crying. They were actually crying. They said, ‘I’m sorry.’”

Oh look, a bullshitter is bullshitting another bullshitter; too bad the targets of all that bullshit are incapable of smelling it when it is shoveled at them.

[neonzx]

Whaddya want to bet it's not even printed on plastic, just card stock.

Likely. BUT, "membership has its privilege". Wasn't that a slogan for a card company at one time?

My Amex gold card is made of metal, so I am not in the market anyway.

my chase club card and amex gold card are both made of metal. They're a pain to dispose of when they expire.

I know what problems we face. We can't put them through the home office shredder.

But I can confirm they survive well through a wash/dry cycle-- unlike plastic. But my wallet had a wonderful Gain scent to it it.

[raison de arizona]

Trump claimed in his interview with Tucker Carlson (airing tonight) that people working at the courthouse where he was arraigned were crying and told him "I'm sorry"