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Kriselda Gray wrote: Thu Jan 26, 2023 10:11 pm
p0rtia wrote: Thu Jan 26, 2023 6:34 pm :yeahthat:

It's called "woke".
No offense, but I HATE that word. I like "empathy" much better. Besides, it's harder to say you're anti-empathy than to say you're anti-"woke" :)
If I had to guess, I'd say that "woke" got used because it adds in the factor of becoming aware of a situation. RWNJs want to deny that minorities are treated unfairly, that poor people have the deck stacked against them, etc. RWNJs will declare that minorities have the opportunities, they're just too lazy or stupid or whatever, to take advantage of them. They blame the victims. If you see and understand the inherent racism which exists, then you become empathetic with the victims. RWNJs can't be empathetic because they deny that disadvantages exist and that they are the cause of the problem.
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Woke is the new Communist, and part of the continuously evolving slur word salad radicchio GQP serve up against anyone they disagree with but cannot articulate specific arguments against. They don't have to be able to define it, and it doesn't actually have to mean anything. They just slip it into any statements they are making at the moment, and their followers nod in knowing agreement as if it had great significance.
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Is it better to be woke or still asleep? I know what my answer is. :oldman:
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bill_g wrote: Fri Jan 27, 2023 8:01 am Woke is the new Communist,
No, its just an insult shouted across the Political divide as has happened the world over. Much like "Tory" or "Tudor." The first people to call Henry VII a Tudor was his opponents. Originally Tudor was a word that basically meant a Filthy Welshman. "Nazi" was, again, an insult that was thrown at Hitlers party and thugs, that became co-opted into a name.

https://www.warhistoryonline.com/instan ... -nazi.html
Originally, the term was used in Germany before the rise of NSDAP as a colloquial and derogatory word referring to an awkward, backward, and clumsy peasant. It would go on to be used as a mockery of the name Ignatz—a German variation of Ignatius.

Indeed, Ignatz was a name common in Bavaria, the region from which the NSDAP emerged. This came to haunt them as opponents tried to draw parallels between the widely mocked name and the party.

Opponents of NSDAP also used the word “Sozi” prior to “Nazi” as a derogative representation of the word Sozialist or “Socialist” in English.

In the 1920s, in a bid to associate the NSDAP with the contemptuous colloquial term “Sozi” and the name “Ignatz,” opponents of national socialism tweaked the first part of the party’s name, (Na)tionalSo(zi)alistische, to coin the term “Nazi” for the socialist party.

Clearly, this awkward sobriquet was not something Hitler and his National Socialists had signed up for.

In the 1930s, when the NSDAP would eventually rise in power, the term became more widely spread by exiles who used it to refer not just to the party, but to everything associated with it.

This brought about the terms “Nazi Germany,” “Nazi Regime,” and “Nazism” among others.
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Suranis wrote: Fri Jan 27, 2023 9:55 am
No, its just an insult shouted across the Political divide as has happened the world over.
We're saying the same thing. I said slur. You said insult.

Woke is an appropriation from the BLM during the Summer of 2020 George Floyd protests. Woke was the term to describe the "tourists" who had nothing better to do during the Covid lockdown than to show up at the mass rallies that sprang up across the country. It was a poke in the ribs, but Conservatives took it as a real insult, latched on to it, imbued it with their own concepts, and now clutch these pearls as if they had substantial value. It falls right in line with their rebuke of CRT and anything that contradicts their views on social stratification and racism. It's an all encompassing concept held in a single syllable.
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