Still not 'duly elected' ... anything -- Kari Lake, TFG Endorsee

[p0rtia]

Yes, because the only reason a bunch of MAGA types wouldn't complete your poll is because they were disenfranchised. That's the only possible reason you can think of? I mean, MAGA types have always been friendly to pollsters, right?
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Rich Baris testifies that early voters completed their exit poll at a rate of 93% vs only 72% of Election Day voters.

“I can tell you that has never happened to me before, ever...these people didn’t complete this questionnaire because they didn’t vote. They didn’t get to vote.”

How is an exit poll even relevant

He's arguing that the 72 percent of exit polls completed (the respondents were contacted beforehand), when the average completion percentage of over 90 percent, shows that some 20 to 30,000 voters intended to vote, but where discouraged from voting by long lines in the early morning (and maybe other issues, but I didn't hear that. He (the witness) claims that "Lake would have won if not for election day chaos" that prevented voters from carrying out their intention to vote.

[p0rtia]

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Yesterday, an Arizona judge oversaw 7 hours of arguments in day 1 of Kari Lake's trial contesting her loss in the Arizona governor's race.

Here is our detailed summary of what happened, including testimony from 6 of Lake's witnesses.

Plaintiff has presented pretty much the same lack of evidence (certainly any credible evidence) of anything she had to prove on the 2 remaining counts. Her so-called experts have been a complete joke. There is no way an honest judge finds in her favor. This one has bent over backwards for them, so we'll see. Perhaps just trying to plug any appeal holes.

I read this to get the writer's take on Heather Honey, the "Elections Investigator" (Because that's a thing, now). She was the best of Lake's witnesses; she told the truth as far as it went and didn't stretch. Most of what she said was hearsay, so I expected the State's cross to point that out. He did bring out that she did not know much about election law, but other than that, it was an utter bust of a cross.

[Suranis]

Maybe they were told that Exit polls were a plot by the Democrats to track down Republican voters to take them away to the Fema camps.

See? Alternate explanation.

[Phoenix520]

Hmmm. I’ll try:

Early voters tend to vote Dem. Everyone knows Dems are friendly and helpful and would love to take part in your exit poll.

Day of voters are grumpy Republicans who think the whole world is dedicated to helping them fail. Here’s what you can do with your exit poll, you fucking commie.

How’d I do?

[SuzieC]

I read this to get the writer's take on Heather Honey, the "Elections Investigator" (Because that's a thing, now). She was the best of Lake's witnesses; she told the truth as far as it went and didn't stretch. Most of what she said was hearsay, so I expected the State's cross to point that out. He did bring out that she did not know much about election law, but other than that, it was an utter bust of a cross.

It seems that the State established its position that Heather Honey's testimony was all hearsay with its repeated objections during her direct.

[Reality Check]

Heather Honey? Is that something to spread on toast or a porn actress?

Seriously, I am surprised the judge let in the call from "Betty". I guess the judge knows how much weight he is going to give it in his decision.

[raison de arizona]

A tale of two trials in my Twitter feed:

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[Reality Check]

There was no 19" ballot. This is an invention by Team Lake. The general election ballot image files were all designed to print on 20 in paper. The defense offered two reasonable explanations for what happened. One or both could have happened. First after the local scanners began to reject some ballots as unreadable some of the election officials may have tried changing the ballot printer settings to "print to fit" (and not "fit to print" as the Lake attorney kept stupidly saying ad nauseum). Second the last expert said a 19" ballot image file was used in the August primary and the laptops at some of the vote centers may have retained these settings.

Both are benign and reasonable explanations for what happened. And as the defense pointed out there were procedures in place to make sure that ballots that are rejected either by local vote center scanners or scanners at the central counting facility are duplicated by a bipartisan panel and counted. The Lake idiots failed to provide evidence that a single vote was rejected due to printer issues.

[realist]

This nothingburger (19" images printed on 20" inch ballots) seems to be what Lake is hanging her hat on, and it's nothing, like we've seen before:

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Lake’s attorney starts his five minute rebuttal, emphasizing the fact that 19-inch ballot images were printed on 20-inch ballots.

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Maricopa County’s attorney picks up with closing arguments for the defendants and notes he will be seeking sanctions against Lake’s attorneys.

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As a reminder, the plaintiffs had to prove that these mistakes were intentional and that they were determinative, meaning they would change the outcome of the governor’s race, which has a difference of over 17,000 votes.

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Concluding the trial, the judge says he hopes to issue a ruling “forthwith,” but “don’t expect that this is coming up at five o’clock.”

The trial has concluded.

[Phoenix520]

Face it, Republicans simply cannot cope with reality. They have hysterics every time things don’t go their way. They get creative with interpretations and THEN attempt to bend everyone else’s reality to fit into their little fantasy.

[bob]

This nothingburger (19" images printed on 20" inch ballots) seems to be what Lake is hanging her hat on, and it's nothing, like we've seen before

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[New Turtle]

Did they take some 19" ballots and try to run them through the machine? Because if they want to show they don't work, that seems like a really good way to make their case.

[realist]

Did they take some 19" ballots and try to run them through the machine? Because if they want to show they don't work, that seems like a really good way to make their case.

Actually there was testimony that in one of the previous but not long ago elections that the ballots were 19", and one of the possibilities was that those printers were not changed back to print on 20" paper.

[raison de arizona]

Did they take some 19" ballots and try to run them through the machine? Because if they want to show they don't work, that seems like a really good way to make their case.

Actually there was testimony that in one of the previous but not long ago elections that the ballots were 19", and one of the possibilities was that those printers were not changed back to print on 20" paper.

That was the primary.

[Gregg]

So, it's 6 o:clock now...

[Reality Check]

So, it's 6 o:clock now...

I expect a decision tomorrow. I imagine he could have written 90% of it last night.

[much ado]

Hmmm. I’ll try:

Early voters tend to vote Dem. Everyone knows Dems are friendly and helpful and would love to take part in your exit poll.

Day of voters are grumpy Republicans who think the whole world is dedicated to helping them fail. Here’s what you can do with your exit poll, you fucking commie.

How’d I do?

Yep, that's it.

[p0rtia]

Watched day 2 including closings in Lake v Hobbs, which I now think of as "Kari Lake does her bit to chip away at the US election system."

For the two remaining courts, Lake's crew was out to show that either election machine providers or MC election officials/workers had intentionally tried to cheat.

Their entire case was to intentionally mischaracterize the process in support of the idea that MC election officials/workers might have thus had an opportunity to add ballots to the pile. Not exactly evidence of specific workers doing specific acts. Also absurd, doubly so, since they made no attempt to explain why, therefore, in the end, the number of people who voted matched up with the number of votes.

Tom LIddy, son of notorious G Gordon LIddy, went fire and brimstone in his brief closing; he is spot on; this was nothing more than an attempt to undermine the system. He went to the brink of saying, but did not say, that the calls by Lake and the Republicans in AZ to not vote until the very last second, and never use a drop box, was in itself the first step in the plan to eventually claim fraud. He's right.

ETA: Another of the plaintiff's arguments in favor of illegality having occurred was the large numbers of AZ voters who doubt the system. Figure that out.

[Reality Check]

The AG contest in Mohave got dismissed from the bench just now. The judge also denied a request to change any ballots based on the ballot review the plaintiffs did yesterday.

[realist]

The AG contest in Mohave got dismissed from the bench just now. The judge also denied a request to change any ballots based on the ballot review the plaintiffs did yesterday.

I'm shocked. SHOCKED!! I tells ya.

Hoping for the same result in the Lake case and hoping the decision comes down by 5:00 p.m. today.

[bob]

"For completeness":


Always the birther way: "We'll win on appeal!"

[realist]

A reply to Leo on his Twitter... this is certainly a much, much better avenue for appeal that what Leo points to.

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[p0rtia]

The AG contest in Mohave got dismissed from the bench just now. The judge also denied a request to change any ballots based on the ballot review the plaintiffs did yesterday.

I watched today's hearing. As everyone commented, what a waste of time and money. Even the plaintiff's attorney said there were not enough votes that might be changed to make a difference. Because they found only four votes that might or might not be switched from one candidate to the other--three of which would have been switches to Mayes, the Dem. Plaintiff att.'s position was, "Well, true, we're going to lose, but wasn't this a great exercise to prove to the voters that we're making sure the system is honest?" Def. Att. gave a resounding NO to that; what if every damned election ended up in court? What about the presumption that duly elected/appointed/trained/evaluated election officers/workers would carry out their jobs without criming?

The judge closed by saying he was dismissing the case, though he was kinder to Hamedah than the defense attorneys were. He said, "The system worked as it is designed to work." Hence the ruling.

Once again, defense attorneys from the county and state were pushing "This has to stop! You're undermining our election system! We will ask for sanctions!" Though the Plaintiff att. was not at all the lying SOBs grifting off of the Kari Lake case. Doubt he'll be sanctioned. Hamadah never claimed criminal intent, just wanted to recount various types of ballots to find mistakes.

ETA: One curiosity to me. Turns out the county (?) only hires registered independents or libertarians as poll workers/other workers, to avoid possible partisanship. That was a new one to me; I assumed (bad me) that all counties had teams of equal number of Dems and Reps to do everything.

[Reality Check]

ETA: One curiosity to me. Turns out the county (?) only hires registered independents or libertarians as poll workers/other workers, to avoid possible partisanship. That was a new one to me; I assumed (bad me) that all counties had teams of equal number of Dems and Reps to do everything.

What I understood is that the ballot adjudication boards consisted of one member of each major party and an independent or libertarian hired and trained by the County. I am not sure that applied to all poll workers.

[raison de arizona]

Lake’s trial conclusion statement.