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As always, I would appreciate one of our fine Fogbow attorneys weighing in and explaining what I’m missing.
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Supposition of violating the Mann Act (crossing state lines with a minor for sex) is not evidence. Now, if the docs are validated, you have Greenbert, a co-conspirator, putting down on paper a description of the conspiracy and an admission of guilt by Greenberg. This is evidence. Additionally, if the former occupants of the White House, etc. claim that there were never any conversations with Stone about such a pardon, you might have a criminal case for fraud against Stone -- Stone attempting to fraudulently induce Greenberg to give Stone 250K. This also makes it more likely that Greenberg is going to flip on everyone, all the republicans for whom he acted as a pimp.NewMexGirl wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 10:00 pm I don’t understand why this is considered such bombshell news, at least so far as Gaetz is concerned. We already were aware that Gaetz crossed state lines with an underaged girl, or at least there was a strong supposition that he had done so. Re the pardon, it’s not a good look for Stone (what is?) and Greenberg is a knave and a fool, but where is the new info/evidence that’s going to bring down Gaetz? Is Greenberg even a valuable/usable witness for a Gaetz prosecution?![]()
As always, I would appreciate one of our fine Fogbow attorneys weighing in and explaining what I’m missing.![]()
My question too, but I was gonna say almost 40?
A confession letter written by Joel Greenberg in the final months of the Trump presidency claims that he and close associate Rep. Matt Gaetz paid for sex with multiple women—as well as a girl who was 17 at the time.
“On more than one occasion, this individual was involved in sexual activities with several of the other girls, the congressman from Florida’s 1st Congressional District and myself,” Greenberg wrote in reference to the 17-year-old.
“From time to time, gas money or gifts, rent or partial tuition payments were made to several of these girls, including the individual who was not yet 18. I did see the acts occur firsthand and Venmo transactions, Cash App or other payments were made to these girls on behalf of the Congressman.”
The letter, which The Daily Beast recently obtained, was written after Greenberg—who was under federal indictment—asked Roger Stone to help him secure a pardon from then-President Donald Trump.
A series of private messages starting in late 2020—also recently obtained by The Daily Beast—shows a number of exchanges between Greenberg and Stone conducted over the encrypted messaging app Signal, with communications set to disappear. However, Greenberg appears to have taken screenshots of a number of their conversations.
“If I get you $250k in Bitcoin would that help or is this not a financial matter,” Greenberg wrote to Stone, one message shows.
Eww. That part really is creepy.I did see the acts occur firsthand ...
Sorry, but I must:
Thank you, Woodworker.woodworker wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 12:51 am
Supposition of violating the Mann Act (crossing state lines with a minor for sex) is not evidence. Now, if the docs are validated, you have Greenbert, a co-conspirator, putting down on paper a description of the conspiracy and an admission of guilt by Greenberg. This is evidence. Additionally, if the former occupants of the White House, etc. claim that there were never any conversations with Stone about such a pardon, you might have a criminal case for fraud against Stone -- Stone attempting to fraudulently induce Greenberg to give Stone 250K. This also makes it more likely that Greenberg is going to flip on everyone, all the republicans for whom he acted as a pimp.
Moar popcorn please.
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