The same would be true if he had died after sentencing but his appeal was pending. That was the case with Aaron Hernandez, the NFL dude killed himself after being sentenced to life in prison for murder.Fiascoist wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 6:16 pm No appeal until after sentencing and the standard motion for new trial(not necessary except to your ins carrier). Remember Kenny Lay who died before sentencing so he was found guilty but no sentencing judgment happened so no judgment.
And there will be a presentence report extolling what patriots these people are (NOT). Then appeal. If the sentences are shorter than the prison time AND the judge thinks they got a raw deal (but not so raw to grant a new trial and they are medical messes) they might not have to start serving their time. They will get credit for current time. And Caldwell may not have to report for a few months, but the others do Monopoly go to jail card. Yeah!!!!
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Spoke to one of the Oath Keepers group two attorneys. Seems like they're on track to finish up jury selection tomorrow. As always, surprise about how many lawyers there are in the D.C. jury pool (so, so many).
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Is that the same trial referenced in the other thread that you said was a bench trial or do they have more than 2 trials going right now?
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The bench trial I referenced in the other thread was not for an Oath Keeper to the best of my knowledge. It is getting complicated.sugar magnolia wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 7:44 pm Is that the same trial referenced in the other thread that you said was a bench trial or do they have more than 2 trials going right now?
I believe this is the bench trial and this defendant is not associated with OK, but
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Hubby found this.
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We're all confused. You corrected the tweet about it being the second day of jury selection for the OK trial, but this one appears to be the bench trial.Kendra wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 7:53 pmThe bench trial I referenced in the other thread was not for an Oath Keeper to the best of my knowledge. It is getting complicated.sugar magnolia wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 7:44 pm Is that the same trial referenced in the other thread that you said was a bench trial or do they have more than 2 trials going right now?
I believe this is the bench trial and this defendant is not associated with OK, but
Or not. I mostly just wait for the verdicts and sentences.
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Full story: Link to Congressman investigating Jan. 6 prompts jury concerns
• Oath Keepers defense questioned a potential juror after he said
@RepRaskin
– who serves on the House Jan. 6 Commitee – was his constitutional law professor
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Opening arguments for the second Oath Keepers seditious conspiracy group are getting underway shortly. I've circled the four defendants in this trial group below in red.
I won't be live-tweeting this trial as I did the previous one, but I will periodically provide updates.
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The trial to determine if AK Rep David Eastman should be removed due to his Oathkeeper allegiance was supposed to start today. But it snowed like all hell last night so the trial is delayed for a day.
But this gem emerged from his proposed witness list.
But this gem emerged from his proposed witness list.
What's the Frequency, Kenneth?
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https://www.adn.com/politics/2022/12/13 ... pers-ties/
Trial begins over office eligibility of Wasilla lawmaker with Oath Keepers ties
An Alaska legislator’s membership in the far-right Oath Keepers is at the center of a trial that began Tuesday.
A lawsuit filed earlier this year challenges Wasilla Rep. David Eastman’s eligibility to hold public office, based on a clause in the Alaska state constitution that forbids someone from holding public office if they aid or belong to a group that advocates the overthrow of the U.S. government. The court case against Eastman, a Republican, will be the first to test the Alaska Constitution clause.
The lawsuit was filed by former Mat-Su Assembly member Randall Kowalke, who is seeking to disqualify Eastman from office. Despite the pending legal challenge, Eastman won reelection in a landslide last month to his Wasilla House seat, garnering over 50% of the vote in a three-way race against two other Republicans.
Eastman was stripped of his minority caucus membership and committee assignments in the final weeks of the 2022 legislative session over what Republican lawmakers called an unproductive demeanor.
The outcome of the trial could impact who controls the Alaska House during the legislative session set to begin in January. Republicans, including Eastman, won 21 of the chamber’s 40 seats. But several Republican members of the Legislature have cited Eastman’s obstructionist tactics as a reason keeping them from joining a Republican-controlled majority. If Eastman is ruled ineligible to hold office, he will be replaced by one of the Republicans who ran against him. That could increase the likelihood of a Republican majority forming.
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And in the Eastman trial they’ve made a connection to the Bundys.
Bonus:
Bonus:
What's the Frequency, Kenneth?
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What's the Frequency, Kenneth?
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NEW: Jury gets the case in seditious conspiracy trial of second group of OathKeepers Jan 6 defendants
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Jury will not have verdict today in seditious conspiracy trial of 2nd group of accused OathKeepers Jan 6 defendants. Back on Monday
Lengthy trial. Deliberations began late this week.
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Do they get the menu for lunches in advance? Did Monday's lunch look yummy?
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Better question: what's the daily federal jury pay for the District of DCnorthland10 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 20, 2023 7:33 pm Do they get the menu for lunches in advance? Did Monday's lunch look yummy?
"He sewed his eyes shut because he is afraid to see, He tries to tell me what I put inside of me
He's got the answers to ease my curiosity, He dreamed a god up and called it Christianity"
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He's got the answers to ease my curiosity, He dreamed a god up and called it Christianity"
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Jury has reached a verdict in OK trial two.
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JUST IN: All four Oath Keeper defendants — Ed Vallejo, Roberto Minuta, Joseph Hackett and David Moerschel — have been found *guilty* of seditious conspiracy.
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As in Barnett’s verdict this morning, Ashli Babbitt and Enrique Tarrio’s moms were in the courtroom for Oath Keepers verdict, along with Nicole Reffitt (wife of convicted Jan. 6 defendant Guy Reffitt).
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Another Win! (are we tired of winning yet??)
'splainer if you haven't seen it.
https://twitter.com/rogerskaer/status/1 ... 8182332416
'splainer if you haven't seen it.
https://twitter.com/rogerskaer/status/1 ... 8182332416
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Do they get access after?They’ll be on 24/7 house arrest with no access to firearms until sentencing
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Enrique Tarrio. . . has a mom?
I can tell you that if I had ever done any of the sort of shit that Tarrio and his elk ever did, my mom would have disowned me, and said that I was not worthy of her love and support.
Then she would have felt guilty the rest of her life and tried to figure out what she did wrong. Meanwhile my dad would have tried to talk to me to see where I strayed and why.
I can tell you that if I had ever done any of the sort of shit that Tarrio and his elk ever did, my mom would have disowned me, and said that I was not worthy of her love and support.
Then she would have felt guilty the rest of her life and tried to figure out what she did wrong. Meanwhile my dad would have tried to talk to me to see where I strayed and why.
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How is it that elk are always getting caught up with the wrong kind of people?
Be assured that a walk through the ocean of most souls Would scarcely get your feet wet